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posted on Jul, 27 2005 @ 04:45 PM
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(before i actually post i would like to say i put this thread in this forum b/c most of this these have direct relation to the war on terror in general)

who like myself:
Is sick of the stereotypes out there when they have absolutly no merit when concerning yourself. and the only reason you are labeled it is because you are in fact american.

is sick of the the govt doing dumb stuff, for the good of us, when it has absolutly no good factor for the people.

is sick of constintly hearing about the war.

is sick of hearing everyones opinion about the war.(these last 2 concern celebs, politicians etc. not people like you and i)

is sick of the war, not because it is wrong, or b/c it is unjust, but is just sick of it.

is sick of jane fonda

is sick of always hearing "allah akabur" or whatever they are saying.

is sick of hearing "money money money money"(not the song)

is sick of the repubs always justifing there actions with sublimial msgs pretaining to religion.

is sick of the democrats always trash talking.

who knew that bush and kerry sucked.

who knows that the oil crisis isnt a crisis, its a milking, b/c if they wanted to, car companies could make an engine that gets 60 mpg+, and could have like 30 years ago.

is sick of hearing bush talk, not b/c he is against ur beliefs, but b/c hes annoying as hell to listen to.

and lastly who wishs the world would just STFU for like 1 minute and listen to "the sounds of silence".

add more people, i dont care if your not american, do ur own country for all i care.




posted on Jul, 27 2005 @ 05:06 PM
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Here Here!
Yes, the country is in much distress and disarray due to several factors.
I'm glad you have realized this and hope you will act on it.
We can talk about this and that, but it's not until you finally do something that anything changes.

a wise man whom I respect once told me


Three frogs are on a log.
Two decide to jump off.
How many frogs are on the log?

The answer is still one.

May grace be with you.
Welcome to the fight for righteousness.
- tass



posted on Jul, 27 2005 @ 05:06 PM
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Hear hear

Not all americans support the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Of course a lot of what you mentioned form part of american 'culture'. Yet there are learned people out there that do not buy into the sensationalisation of events in mainstream media like Fox and CNN. Hence we do have alternative ways to get some real news with real substance like ATS.



posted on Jul, 27 2005 @ 05:08 PM
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Some people (not me) might be sick of hearing about people who are sick of everything. But there is certainly a sickness, a general malaise, that needs to be dealt with.

Be careful you don't get inadvertently labelled with the classic stereotype of the complainant, the "whinging Pom". These (only occasionally non-fictional) characters do not reside in the mainland US with an incidence that makes them common garden variety pervaders of negativity.

Try putting yourself on the side of offering solutions sometimes too.

[edit on 27-7-2005 by MaskedAvatar]



posted on Jul, 27 2005 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
Try putting yourself on the side of offering solutions sometimes too.



Do you, MA? Ever? All of your posts that I have seen have just one theme and that is to put down some other poster or the United States by using your pseudo-intellectualism in a very condescending way.

[edit on 7/27/2005 by centurion1211]



posted on Jul, 27 2005 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by Zach
is sick of jane fonda


What pray tell has Jane Fonda done during the Iraq invasion/occupation other than the only just announced bus tour? Just upon hearing that you got sick of her? Why add her into this list?



posted on Jul, 27 2005 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by Zach
(before i actually post i would like to say i put this thread in this forum b/c most of this these have direct relation to the war on terror in general)

who like myself:
Is sick of the stereotypes out there when they have absolutly no merit when concerning yourself. and the only reason you are labeled it is because you are in fact american.

is sick of the the govt doing dumb stuff, for the good of us, when it has absolutly no good factor for the people.

is sick of constintly hearing about the war.

is sick of hearing everyones opinion about the war.(these last 2 concern celebs, politicians etc. not people like you and i)

is sick of the war, not because it is wrong, or b/c it is unjust, but is just sick of it.

is sick of jane fonda

is sick of always hearing "allah akabur" or whatever they are saying.

is sick of hearing "money money money money"(not the song)

is sick of the repubs always justifing there actions with sublimial msgs pretaining to religion.

is sick of the democrats always trash talking.

who knew that bush and kerry sucked.

who knows that the oil crisis isnt a crisis, its a milking, b/c if they wanted to, car companies could make an engine that gets 60 mpg+, and could have like 30 years ago.

is sick of hearing bush talk, not b/c he is against ur beliefs, but b/c hes annoying as hell to listen to.

and lastly who wishs the world would just STFU for like 1 minute and listen to "the sounds of silence".

add more people, i dont care if your not american, do ur own country for all i care.



You are sick of stereotyping although you are sterotyping alot yourself in your thread.

Looks like you are the typical hypocritical american who is just frustrated but really doesnt know why because you lack the intellect.



posted on Jul, 27 2005 @ 06:44 PM
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Zach,

I can understand your frustration.

How about you take each of your points though, and suggest an alternative? Or a reason why each is a problem?

At least then we'll have a basis for discussion, you know?



posted on Jul, 27 2005 @ 06:55 PM
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motionknight, that's just lame...


Zach, sounds more like a rant to me
but I feel ya...

I generally ignore CNN these days unless something interesting happened unrelated to the war...

I hope they find a solution soon...



posted on Jul, 27 2005 @ 07:08 PM
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im sick of all the crap too

instead of what they are doing

here are good alternatives for News Agencys to report on

1) making water and electricty cheaper and cleaner for normal people
2) keeping corporations from causing so many problems / also keeping them from price gouging
3) they need to report more on 3rd party politics *theres plenty to report*
4) reporting on suspicious connections between the powers that be
5) Trying to Solve world Hunger *the MOST important issue on earth!*
6) Trying to End World Poverty including that in America *the 2nd most important issue on earth!!!*
7) Ending war *the most primitive human occupation on earth!*
8) Developing alternatives to our current technology *food , energy etc*
9) Actually Educating everyone instead of "dumbing us down"
10) focus on science

i could go on but ill chill for now

here, ill do everyone a favor ; ill go look up something for us to all use
brb 5minutes
ill add it in a edit *youll see what im getting at in 5min*

alrite here we go
www.house.gov...
everyone visit this website NOW and go find YOUR local represenative
I want each and every one of you to Write a letter to your Rep
i want you to keep writing more letters!
i want you to push and push; be respectful and nice; and bring to the attention of our represenatives what WE feel is Important and what WE want done

this is the start of actually doing something
www.house.gov...
if you do not use this information ; yet still gripe about anything
you are wasting your time

please ; please
go and find your Rep
and Write them
and Never stop until we are heard!

PS - be nice tho; we want to be Civilized and Respectable
you may want to write you draft before-hand so you can make it really good

and if you have extra time; write all the other Reps'
this is how we Change things
this is how we Get Involved!

lets get this show on the road!


[edit on 27-7-2005 by muzzleflash]

one more thing ::
at www.house.gov...
look on the left side bar; it says "Write your Local Rep"
click there; enter the info and it will bring up your Rep right away

there is also scrollers that have massive lists of all the Reps
Use this
Live by it
make this your 2nd home after ATS

This is the Key to Change


[edit on 27-7-2005 by muzzleflash]



posted on Jul, 27 2005 @ 07:22 PM
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also; even tho senators are notorious for never listening to regular citizens
we must badger them too!

www.senate.gov...
Find you state senators and Write them too!!

heres a list of the senators you can access from the front page
www.senate.gov...

find them; write them; badger them
be respectful; be civilized; Be a True Citizen

write them all if you have a chance
send them all a copy of your letter to speed things us

fill their box with email
write them letters in handwriting w/envelope
call their offices

they will eventually give in to all the pressure if we can get everyone to do this
this is how we Make a Differance
Do It
No Excuses
Go Get em Tiger!


edit :: more links

www.whitehouse.gov...
of interest is this ---> www.whitehouse.gov...
get INVOLVED!

www.army.mil...
www.navy.mil...
www.af.mil...
www.dhs.gov...
www.energy.gov...
www.dot.gov...
www.ed.gov...

also; write the oil companys

www.exxon.com...
www.chevron.com...
www.shell.com...
www.texaco.com...
www.mobil.com...
www.bp.com...

dont gripe here
Gripe on these peoples Emails; Telephones Etc
Lets Do Something Productive!!
Get Involved!!


[edit on 27-7-2005 by muzzleflash]



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