New "Confirmation" and "Corroboration" of the Meier HOAX, page 6
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reply posted on 24-9-2005 @ 09:24 AM by TerraX
Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
:nods: I gotcha.

I didn't mean to attack you but i'm quite skeptical at the moment.

BTW, was Meiers the only one to claim he had contact with Pleidans?


No, many (female) channelers claim to be in contact with the Pleiadians such as Barbara Marcinak.
www.pleiadians.com...
Mysraki also mentioned a person named "Adrian" which is correct. Much controversy surrounded that story and if I'm not mistaken that person kinda retired from the scene.
www.ufowatchdog.com...

There's also another contactee by the name of Enrique Rincon from South America who claimed contact with Pleiadians prior to Billy Meier.
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...


reply posted on 27-9-2005 @ 07:16 AM by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Originally posted by mysraki

A joke you say ? Now you are a psychologist yourself interpreting what Maccabee was thinking claiming to be a contactee. Give me a break.

What Maccabee said is said and nobody will reverse that. It's useless your effort to covert and conceal Maccabee statements unless you are some kind of lawyer for him or maybe a follower.

The man is a well known excentric ufologist who has been involved in dubious cases in the past like the Ed Walters / Gulf Breeze story or the infamous Canada Guardian UFO Footage etc. His credibility and reputation has been always controversial due to his inconsistent judgements.

Here the situation is clear as water. Maccabee VS. Meier, Contactee VS. Contactee. The same old story repeats again. By the way Billy Meier has never recognized any other contactee named Adamski, Fry, Menger etc. as legitimate, only himself. According to Meier all contactees of all times
are fakes and charlatans as well as their evidences. Only himself is the
real thing, you see what I mean ? Same old boring story.

Just to clear things I did quoted the (gulp) expression by Commander Maccabee in my post as I just copied-pasted the statements. It seems that
" somebody " convenientelly edited my post for some reason. Fortunatelly
I included the link to the article.





You don't have to be a shrink to see the obvious meaning of Maccabee's statements. Anyone, with minimal thought, can see his comments are made with mild humor and very tounge and cheek. I seriously don't get how the hell you could have possibly taken that whole diatribe to be literal matter of facts from Mac. It was very clear that he was simply relaying his own observations and experience with persons claiming to channel aliens. His comment about him apparently being a contactee was made with gentle sarcasm and an obvious tounge and cheek reference. If you need me to translate, his meanign was "well, according to my eccentric friends, I am a contactee because they saw me in some vision, but this certainly is a surprise to me, since the ETs obviously failed to inform me about it, why am I always the last to know, ect ect".

I still think Meiers is a fraud. He is preaching the same silly New Age hippie BS that every other New Age guru is marketing in books and tapes. There is nothing uniuqe, earth shattering, or original in any of Meier's rantings. Replace Pliedians with "angels", "ascended masters", "spirit guides", "Etherians", "Atlantians", or "Lord Ramtha" and you could be reading the same New Age fuzzy feely philosophy that has been packaged in so many different wrappings, but is all the same stuff.

Photographs prove NOTHING. No serious UFO researcher would base any sort of case on photos, or even a large chunk fo the case. Photos, even those that have withstood scrutiny, are still grey basket material. All the other "evidence" in this case is very unconvincing. I dont see independant blind lab studies of any materials, or any good scientific investigation of the area where this happened, or any real solid scrutiny period.

And Meier's claims of Men in Black sneaking around and stealing his "evidence" has lowered the likelyhood and credibility of his whole story.


reply posted on 24-10-2005 @ 03:11 PM by Rasobasi420
Searching for more information on Billy Meier, I came across this.
www.iigwest.com...
This seems pretty reasonable an convincing. If Meier isn't a hoax, can someone explain this info. Please, use an argument other than govt. conspiracy, or timetravel.
Thankz
BTW, I am a firm believer in true alien cases, but I have to take the point of view of a skeptic to prove these things to myself.


reply posted on 26-10-2005 @ 08:23 AM by Gazrok

Searching for more information on Billy Meier, I came across this.
www.iigwest.com...
This seems pretty reasonable an convincing.


Excellent job on finding earlier publications stating the data that the Meier camp claims was unknown to Earth scientists at the time! This simply confirms the logic of what many suspected...that Meier is a smart guy, and that he constantly read such journals as a hobby....

I'd highly recommend reading that link, if you feel the Meier claims of prior knowledge are valid....


reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 08:24 AM by mahigitam
1]

my great great grand father have duplicated all the photos taken by meier and he wont submit his photos unless meier catch the culprits who has stolen the photos and obtain from them his original negatives & photos ..
no matter how real they look and verified by experts,i dnt care ,i simply want original negatives & photos..

2]
my great great grand mother duplicated all of meier videos and she also insists that she wont submit her videos for testing unless meier again catch the culprits who has stolen his films or manipulated his films.no matter how strange the ship moves,hovers and i dont care even if it sounds impossible for a tethered model to do movements,i dont care..i simply want original films...


3]
my great great grand son has duplicated meiers metal alloy samples and he also doesnt want to submit unless meier obtain new samples from ET's or get back the stolen samples which was lost in the hands of late marcel vogel.no matter what the analysis & results done by marcel vogel and Dr.walker on the sample,though they say that this is simply impossible to manufacture on earth,i simply dont care...i want another bunch of metal samples may be a ton of metal from the alleged beamship...

4]
even if meier allowed to analyse the finger/hand prints on the car hood,i dont have free time to go their and analyse the evidence.i have lot of important work doing gardening,killing mosquitoes,counting stars in the sky and many other...

5]

i dont care wat meier predicted or prophecised...even my mentally retarded neighbour can predict what day comes after monday and can also predict what letter comes after letter "B"...i dont care even if meiers predictions which came true appeared in copyrighted books and self published books.[which were always witnessed by core group,CG49 members and were distributed to anyone whose interested in the case in europe and later in america in english].if its real then tell meier or any meierites to buy and bring the copyrighted book or selfpublished material to my home and show
me.till then i wont pay any penny to buy material & verify and wont believe...

6]

a bunch of beggars at the corner of the street has made some strange sounds with their begging bowls and sticks thats exactly resembles meier's alleged beamship sounds...so thers nothing special in meiers beamship sounds...even if there are witnesses to meiers recordings and the results of analysis done by various state-of-art labs like Excalibur Sound Studios,Naval Undersea Sound Center showing that the beamship sound was unidentifiable..and pretty hard to achieve 32 frequencies ....i simply dont care..my beggar frens can do it better...

7]

you know i simply dont have time to enquire MUFON-CES & ufologist LUc Burgin which it got some information about the 236 radar sightings by swiss airforce authority above meiers house.i have already decided and came to conclusion that it shud be a hoax and will be a hoax..and is a hoax...before i even started looking into the matter...

8]

Regarding to 120 + witnesses,i simply dont care even the whole swiss country or whole of europe or even the whole globe witnesses & photographs the ships,until i see the ships with my own eyes,i wont beleive a damn thing...


i agree with all honest,egoless, openminded skeptics like many here in ATS like me...
i am a serious researcher and from my immense powerful rational thinking and logic....i feel that the case is a

hoax and is closed for all time..
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