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Topic started on 25-7-2005 @ 12:43 PM by Ernold Same


Was on the friday practice run before sat/sun show day at RAF fairford, came out of a loop after taking off and was way too low and only just managed to pull up using full power about 10-15 feet from the ground (est)

Dont know if it was pilot error or the plane, someone mentioned at the time that one did exactly the same in spain earlier in the year only it did crash, something to do with the flight system going into "ground mode" while in flight, anybody got anymore info on this glitch? heres the pic anyway



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reply posted on 25-7-2005 @ 01:02 PM by RichardPrice


The Eurofighter was told to land immediately on the Sunday display after it did exactly the same thing. The recovery was too low and the flight safety coordinators told it to land. I wasnt there but my colleague was, and he had a radio scanner and listened to the whole thing.



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reply posted on 25-7-2005 @ 01:49 PM by Ernold Same


it did the same on sunday??? didnt know that as i wasnt there either, decided to view from a distance on sunday. seems strange it happening twice in the space of 3 days, i also have a scanner and on friday he was told to go to altitude have a minute then bring it in after it happened.



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reply posted on 25-7-2005 @ 08:08 PM by Seekerof


Wasn't this after the Typhoon had performed and was finishing a loop?
I am quite sure that the Typhoons CareFree Handling or CFH performed superbly and as advertized.

Question though, could this be a coding issue with the deltas and their drag ratios at high alpha's (AOA)? Then again, the pilot may have simply been showing off.





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reply posted on 25-7-2005 @ 11:49 PM by Daedalus3


Naw.. maybe it was too close for comfort..



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reply posted on 26-7-2005 @ 02:15 AM by RichardPrice


The pilot just exited from the loop too low, simple as that. Nothing to do with flight controls, care free handling or anything, he just pushed the aircraft beyond the limits laid down by the safety coordinators.



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reply posted on 26-7-2005 @ 05:00 AM by Seekerof


So in other words, the pilot was showboating, RichardPrice?




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reply posted on 26-7-2005 @ 05:36 AM by Jezza


No it was done on the practice day.
THE pilot did get into trouble and yes he was allowed to continue.



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reply posted on 26-7-2005 @ 05:36 AM by RichardPrice



Originally posted by Seekerof
So in other words, the pilot was showboating, RichardPrice?
seekerof


Bingo And the safety guys called him on it!

Interestingly, the pilot was performing the same manouevers and exiting at around the same height at Kemble air day on hte 19th June, with no problems. However, tehre were a LOT of air display rules broken that day, eg Harriers flying in at high speed and breaking OVER the crowd at around 200 ft, nice sight to see but definately against the rules. I got some good pics that day, must put them up.



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reply posted on 26-7-2005 @ 05:37 AM by RichardPrice



Originally posted by Jezza
No it was done on the practice day.
THE pilot did get into trouble and yes he was allowed to continue.


It also happened on the sunday. And he wasnt allowed to continue.



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reply posted on 26-7-2005 @ 05:39 AM by Jezza


There's a job going for a professional show pilot then.



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reply posted on 26-7-2005 @ 01:34 PM by sminkeypinkey


Isn't this just in the nature of those guys when they let loose?

Normally they are as cool and calculating as you can imagine but sometimes.....

(how about the Airbus (A310?) crash where the pilot made a reference about some watching airbus-brass along the lines of "this'll make him *soil pants with joy* - *ahem, cough* - and proceeded to stall out at low speed/height and destroy the aircraft. IIRC it diodn't kill everyone on board, for a change. Which was nice.)



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reply posted on 26-7-2005 @ 07:47 PM by Seekerof


Here is an indepth article on this incident [must have subscription].


A practice air display by a UK Royal Air Force Eurofighter Typhoon almost ended in disaster at the Royal International Air Tattoo at RAF Fairford, when 29 Sqn’s pilot came within feet of the ground after performing a loop on 15 July. The RAF says a minor change was made to the routine before the pilot went on to perform three displays at the show on 17 July.


Typhoon pilot brushes with disaster at Tattoo


Btw, was the pilot disciplined?



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reply posted on 26-7-2005 @ 07:56 PM by stumason



Originally posted by Seekerof
Here is an indepth article on this incident [must have subscription].


A practice air display by a UK Royal Air Force Eurofighter Typhoon almost ended in disaster at the Royal International Air Tattoo at RAF Fairford, when 29 Sqn’s pilot came within feet of the ground after performing a loop on 15 July. The RAF says a minor change was made to the routine before the pilot went on to perform three displays at the show on 17 July.


Typhoon pilot brushes with disaster at Tattoo


Btw, was the pilot disciplined?



seekerof


I'd be surprised if he was "formally" bollocked. My Uncle is the RAF and they are all your typical fly-boys, love to show off and all that.

He probably got a minor bollocking for nearly making a mess of the runway and then a quiet "Jolly good show, Biggles....nice maneuvure..impressed the ladies!" sort of thing



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reply posted on 27-7-2005 @ 10:41 AM by Ernold Same


Just found a video of it, not brilliant but good enough.

www.sukhoi.fsnet.co.uk...



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reply posted on 27-7-2005 @ 01:57 PM by CyberianHusky


Yeah, he started the move too low I think. I'm sure he got yelled at, but also got some good ribbing from his mates. So how about those two B-1bs in the background?



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reply posted on 27-7-2005 @ 02:06 PM by Hockeyguy567



Originally posted by Ernold Same
Just found a video of it, not brilliant but good enough.

www.sukhoi.fsnet.co.uk...


God damn that was so close. That pilot is lucky.



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reply posted on 27-7-2005 @ 02:07 PM by Stealth Spy



Originally posted by Ernold Same
Just found a video of it, not brilliant but good enough.

www.sukhoi.fsnet.co.uk...


looks like a pre planned and well executed manuver



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reply posted on 27-7-2005 @ 11:44 PM by Daedalus3



Originally posted by Ernold Same




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Unless thats an a/c on take off .. I still feel thats only about 5-10 metres clearance and that is tooo close for any a/c!!



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reply posted on 28-7-2005 @ 12:11 AM by FredT


From AWST this week:




Royal Air Force Eurofighter Typhoon broke the display altitude "floor" while being flown on the practice day of the Royal International Air Tattoo at RAF Fairford, England, on July 15. The Typhoon appeared to be within 30 ft. of the ground before beginning to climb out on full afterburner.
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