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Abkhaz Leader Has Ordered Army To Sink Any Georgian Ships In Its Waters

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reply posted on 27-8-2009 @ 04:12 PM by Hellmutt

Apparently, a "much stricter hand" was needed in the Defense Ministry...

Civil Georgia: Defense Minister Replaced

President Saakashvili appointed Bacho Akhalaia on the post of Defense Minister replacing Davit Sikharulidze on August 27.

Akhalaia, who will turn 29 in October, has served as deputy defense minister since December, 2008.

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Speaking at a session of National Security Council, President Saakashvili said: “Much more needs to be done and much stricter hand is needed in this agency [Defense Ministry].”

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Saakashvili also said that Georgia remained committed to its pledge to send troops to Afghanistan and to “deepen NATO integration”.

reply posted on 27-8-2009 @ 05:11 PM by Hellmutt

There was also an explosion in Tskhinvali (South Ossetia) on Wednesday. I wonder if Saakashvili might be up to something (again)...

KGB of South Ossetia: Georgian secret services are involved in bombing in Tskhinvali

Secret services of Georgia are involved in the explosion, according to chairman of the South Ossetian KGB Boris Attoyev. He told Regnum that the explosion was "continuation of terrorist activity of the Georgian secret services in territory of South Ossetia". "We have informed that acts of terrorism have been prepared in the territory of South Ossetia.
The explosion took place near to musical school in central Tskhinval.

Who needs the destabilization of South Ossetia?

Heavy shelling, explosions, and subversion were a prelude to the Georgian invasion on August 8, 2008.

reply posted on 28-8-2009 @ 06:24 PM by Hellmutt

The opposition in Georgia says that Saakashvili's appointment of Akhalaia as Defense Minister is "the most dangerous appointment ever made by Saakashvili", and that it creates a risk of reoccurrence of military adventures.

Civil Georgia: Opposition Slams Akhalaia’s Appointment as Defense Minister

Davit Usupashvili, leader of Republican Party, part of Alliance for Georgia, described this change in the cabinet as “the most dangerous appointment ever made by Saakashvili” during his presidency.

“It creates new threats of reoccurrence of [military] adventures, which is also a dangerous message to all of our international partners, as well as to those people serving in the military,” Usupashvili told Civil.Ge on August 28.

Conservative Party, led by Kakha Kukava and Zviad Dzidziguri, said in a statement that Akhalaia’s appointment “is a step towards army’s criminalization and destruction”. It said that Akhalaia “represents the most criminal group within the authorities.”

“By this decision Saakashvili has made a choice – he needs the army for protecting his regime, instead of protecting the state,” Conservative Party said.

reply posted on 31-8-2009 @ 08:40 AM by Hellmutt

Putin's New Berlin Wall

According to Saakashvili, Putin has built a new "Berlin wall"...

Civil Georgia: Saakashvili Pledges Best Black Sea Resort at Abkhaz Border

31 Aug.'09

“Look there – turn you cameras there,” Saakashvili told television cameramen accompanying him and pointing finger in direction of the Georgian side of Black Sea coast, “there is illuminated Georgia, this is where people decide their faith on their own and now turn your cameras there [pointing finger towards Abkhaz side], there is a new ‘Berlin wall’ beyond which people are not able to decide and where Russians, who have hundred-fold more territories and thousand-fold more money, do not let us to live normally.”

“Putin’s wall in Berlin collapsed and now he built a new one here,” he said.

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reply posted on 3-9-2009 @ 10:56 PM by Hellmutt

An echo of the title of this thread...

Interfax: Abkhaz leader orders destruction of Georgian ships violating sea border (Xinhua)

"I have issued an order to our navy to destroy Georgian ships illegally crossing the Abkhaz marine border. This step has been prompted by unending piracy on Georgia's part," Bagapsh was quoted as saying.

"I would like to emphasize that the matter involves exclusively the Abkhaz Navy. No Russian naval forces have been employed or will be employed to resolve this issue," he added.

The rebel region's foreign minister, Sergei Shamba, also said Abkhazia was ready to use force after Bagapsh had given the order, the RIA Novosti news agency reported.

reply posted on 3-9-2009 @ 11:12 PM by Hellmutt

This thread was started in July, 2005. More than four years ago. The video below was uploaded to Youtube on September 2, 2009:

RussiaToday: Abkhazia to sink Georgian navy?

YouTube Link

Didn't Nostradamus have some kind of prediction regarding "half of St. George's navy getting sunk"... or something similar?

[edit on 3 Sep 2009 by Hellmutt]

reply posted on 6-9-2009 @ 02:03 PM by makeitso

Construction of Russia-South Ossetia pipe almost completed

MOSCOW, Aug 13 2009 (PRIME-TASS) --
The construction of a gas pipeline linking Russia with Georgia's breakaway republic of South Ossetia has almost been completed, Alexander Bart, head of MRK Engineering's construction and contracting department, said Wednesday at a meeting with representatives of Russian gas giant Gazprom and South Ossetia's government, ITAR-TASS reported.

Gas deliveries from Russia to South Ossetia have begun

Aug 27 2009
Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and South Ossetian President Eduard Kokoity cut the ribbon for the new natural gas pipeline between Russia and South Ossetia.

“Today we signed a 20-year agreement with our South Ossetian colleagues for gas cooperation. It calls for implementing a large-scale programme for connecting consumers to the gas supply network, which is why we will begin work today,” said Alexei Miller explaining the Gazprom’s plans to start supplying gas to the low-pressure distribution networks.

reply posted on 10-9-2009 @ 11:52 AM by aecreate

Chávez pleases Russia by recognising Georgian breakaway republics

Venezuela today recognised the independence of Georgia's two breakaway republics of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, in an unexpected move that delighted Russia but provoked a vituperative response from Georgia.

President Hugo Chávez announced during a visit to Moscow that "from today" Venezuela regarded both republics as independent. He said Caracas would swiftly move to establish diplomatic relations.

His decision is a rare triumph for Russian diplomatic efforts to drum up support for the two republics, so far only recognised by Russia. It comes after Chávez arrived in Moscow seeking to buy more military hardware from Russia, but seemingly without the funds to pay for it.

Of course in return-

Georgia dismisses Chavez recognition of rebels

TBILISI (Reuters) - Georgia said on Thursday that Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez's recognition of two Moscow-backed rebel regions was made under Russian pressure and would not provide the "puppet regimes" in the enclaves with legitimacy.

"Russia has been trying for a year to provide these puppet regimes with legitimacy," Georgian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Nalbandov told Reuters. "These attempts have been in vain."

"It should be clear to the Russian side that such actions won't add legitimacy to these puppet regimes," he added.

Diplomatic-tit-for-tat

reply posted on 10-9-2009 @ 05:18 PM by aecreate

Georgia takes aim at Russia's 2014 Winter Olympics

* Games to be held 20 km (12 miles) from rebel Abkhazia

* Georgia recalls 1980 protest over Soviet Afghan invasion

* Abkhazia hopes to provide building materials, housing

TBILISI, Sept 9 (Reuters) - Defeated by Russia in war, Georgia says it wants to force a boycott of the 2014 Winter Olympics in the Russian resort of Sochi near the Moscow-backed rebel region of Abkhazia.

The ex-Soviet republic, its military routed in five August days last year, hopes to emulate the U.S.-led partial boycott of the 1980 Moscow Olympics after the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, which saw dozens of countries refuse participation.

Isn't that nice? Saakashvili will be able to see the Olympics from his backyard.

reply posted on 10-9-2009 @ 05:44 PM by maloy

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I would love to see who joins Georgia's little boycott. Georgia was gracious enought to attack South Ossetia during the start of the Olympics in Beijing, and now it wants to twist the games in Sochi to its political advantage?

Also why the hell does Saakashvili think he will have a say what georgia does during the Sochi games. Technically he won't even be a President by then - his legally allowed term will be long over.

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reply posted on 11-9-2009 @ 11:03 AM by aecreate

Nicaragua signs deal on diplomatic ties with ex-Georgian republic

MOSCOW, September 11 (RIA Novosti) - Nicaragua and the former Georgian republic of Abkhazia have signed an agreement on establishing diplomatic relations, Nicaraguan media reported.

The Central American country recognized the independence of Abkhazia, along with Georgia's other breakaway republic, South Ossetia, following Russia's example after its conflict with Georgia in August 2008.

On Thursday, Venezuela joined Russia and Nicaragua in recognizing Abkhazia and South Ossetia as sovereign states, a move condemned by Georgia, which considers the republics part of its territory.

Abkhazia and Nicaragua establish diplomatic relations

YouTube Link

reply posted on 13-9-2009 @ 10:47 AM by makeitso

Eurasia Daily Monitor

On September 9 the United Nations General Assembly condemned the "forced displacement" of the population from Georgia's Abkhazia and South Ossetia territories, strongly upheld the displaced populations' right to return there, and defined these territories as parts of Georgia.

reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 11:35 AM by Hellmutt

Russia To Detain Georgian Trespassing Vessels

Russia will apparently detain any ship violating "Abkhazia's maritime border"...

RIA Novosti: Russia to detain any ship violating Abkhazia's maritime border

MOSCOW, September 15 (RIA Novosti) - Russian border guards will detain all vessels that violate Abkhazia's maritime border, a senior border guards official said on Tuesday.

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Abkhaz Foreign Minister Sergei Shamba said in early September that Abkhazia was ready to resort to force as President Sergei Bagapsh had given the order "to open fire on Georgian ships if they continue their acts of piracy."

edit: RIA Novisti => RIA Novosti

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reply posted on 22-9-2009 @ 10:05 PM by Hellmutt

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Remember the report I mentioned in the post above? It's about to be released soon.

EU steps up Georgia patrols ahead of war report

The European monitoring mission in Georgia will step up patrols ahead of the publication of a probe into the origins of the 2008 war as a "prophylactic" measure against the risk of fresh conflict.

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According to diplomatic sources quoted by Spiegel Online, the Swiss diplomat intends to brief UN chief Ban Ki Moon in New York this week and then release the study to Georgian, Russian and EU diplomats simultaneously.

The report could prove explosive.

reply posted on 22-9-2009 @ 10:14 PM by Vitchilo

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Very explosive... does that mean that they will lie in it and anger Russia? If they say that Russia started it... all the previous ``peace moves`` are gonna be over.

I hope they did the right thing and exposed the truth.

And do those patrols include sea patrols?

reply posted on 22-9-2009 @ 10:17 PM by Hellmutt

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I don't know the result of the report before it's been published, of course. But according to rumours (yes, I know. rumours...), it doesn't look good for Saakashvili.

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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 06:30 PM by Hellmutt

The report seems to put the blame on Georgia.

Independent Experts Blame Georgia for South Ossetia War

The independent commission appointed by the European Union to investigate the war between Georgia and Russia last summer has concluded that Tbilisi is responsible for causing the five-day conflict, SPIEGEL has learned.

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The international commission, which is headed by Heidi Tagliavini, wants to keep its findings under wraps until next week because the Swiss diplomat first wants to present the controversial results to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon in New York.

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The conflict broke out on Aug. 7, 2008 when Georgia attacked the breakaway region of South Ossetia. Russian forces quickly repelled the Georgian attack and advanced into Georgia.

Saakashvili is now in New York for the UN General Assembly.

Saakashvili in New York for UN General Assembly

reply posted on 30-9-2009 @ 12:41 AM by Hellmutt

The report will be published today...

reply posted on 30-9-2009 @ 08:34 AM by Hellmutt

Russia and Georgia both claim that the report blames the other part for starting the war. The report will not be released publicly till later.

BBC: Georgia report sparks spin battle

An independent report into who started last year's conflict between Russia and Georgia has been seized on by both sides as vindication of their position.

Russia said the EU-sponsored report recognised that Georgia had started the war. Georgian officials said it blamed Russia for escalating tensions.

The report has been given to both countries' ambassadors but will not be released publicly till later.

reply posted on 30-9-2009 @ 06:56 PM by maloy

Originally posted by Hellmutt
Russia and Georgia both claim that the report blames the other part for starting the war. The report will not be released publicly till later.

I think that was pretty much the intention of those compiling the report - partly blame both sides, and in doing so hope to satisfy both of their interests. The report really wasn't expected to reveal any groud breaking news that people who follow these events don't already know. The purpose was for European politicians who pretended to be moderators (like Sarkozy) to draw closure to the conflict, or at least their interest in it.