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Abkhaz Leader Has Ordered Army To Sink Any Georgian Ships In Its Waters

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posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 04:13 PM
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Russia to build a naval base in Abkhazia


Russia might start building a naval base in Abkhazia this year.


The Associated Press: Russia planning Abkhazia naval base


1 day ago


Russia plans to start building a naval base in Georgia's breakaway Abkhazia region this year, the leadership of the Black Sea province said Monday.

A move to base warships in the separatist Black Sea province of Abkhazia would heighten tensions between Russia and Georgia following the war between the two in last summer. It also would deepen Western concerns about Russia's growing military presence in a region the United States, Europe and most of the world consider Georgian territory.

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ITAR-Tass quoted the official as saying the purpose of the base would be to protect against potential violence by Georgia.

There is uncertainty over the future of Russia's main Black Sea naval base in Sevastopol, Ukraine, which has been an independent country since the 1991 breakup of the Soviet Union. Ukraine's current pro-Western leadership wants to eject the Russians from the base when the current lease expires in 2017.

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posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 08:58 PM
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This is what I don't get - why would Russia bother to build a new navy base in Abkhazia when it can't even finish the one in Novorosyisk which it has been working on for nearly a decade? Novorosyisk makes much more sense for the purposes of transfering the Black Sea fleet from Sevastopol, and the location is better than in Abkhazia.

So at this point I would not take this idea of a base in Abkhazia seriously. Surely not the rumors that it will be build as soon as this year. Russia may make a small navy outpost there when the economy improves, but I think there are more important priorities at this point. Same goes for the rumors of a Russian base in Syria, Lybia, and Cuba.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 10:44 AM
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yeah it makes sense but even after the fall of wall, and the new russian federation was established they are still as cryptic as normal. haveing lived on the border land with russia in norway, i learned that some decisions made by the russian government arnt always so logical. sometimes i think that they make a move just to make a move. but still there has to be better places to place the black fleet.



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 09:58 AM
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There are mass protests in Georgia to make Saakashvili resign


Mass anti-president protests begin in Georgia's capital (by maloy)



posted on Apr, 21 2009 @ 07:05 PM
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Hmm.

Russia moves troops closer to Georgia's capital


Russia has stationed its forces just 25 miles (40 kilometers) from the Georgian capital, in violation of the EU-brokered cease-fire that ended last year's brief war. And in recent weeks, it has sent even more troops and armored vehicles to within striking distance of the city ahead of street protests against Georgia's president.



[edit on 4/21/09 by makeitso]



posted on Apr, 21 2009 @ 08:07 PM
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Looks like these news are coming strictly from Georgian sources - which does not make them impartial or even true. Nobody has yet to confirm any of this, and OSCE and other observers are all over the place - so somebody would have noticed.

If one thinks about it, it would be most helpful for Saakashvili's failing regime to start yelling "Russia is getting ready to invade" at the top of his lungs. There is a chance that this might attract some support for him from the West - that is if the West still listens to his bullsh*t babbling.



posted on Apr, 22 2009 @ 05:39 PM
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OSCE and other observers are all over the place- so somebody would have noticed


Really? All over the place?


European Union and OSCE monitors who patrol the boundary lines are not allowed into South Ossetia or Abkhazia, and journalists also are stopped at the Russian checkpoints.


[edit on 4/22/09 by makeitso]



posted on Apr, 22 2009 @ 05:55 PM
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They still have a pretty good idea of what is going on at the border. If there would be any sizeable movement by Russian troops, it would not remain secret.



posted on Apr, 22 2009 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by maloy
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They still have a pretty good idea of what is going on at the border. If there would be any sizeable movement by Russian troops, it would not remain secret.


Who says its a secret?


Some Russian news sources confirmed, however, that the Russian military is reinforcing the administrative borders of Abkhazia and South Ossetia supposedly to prevent a spillover of tensions from Georgia



Jamestown.org


the composition of the naval force that disembarked from Sevastopol is not secret, since the Ukrainian authorities must be informed. It seems to be larger than the force that was deployed against Georgia last August. Four large amphibious landing craft left Sevastopol last week, while in August 2008 only two were reportedly deployed to insert a regiment of marines into Abkhazia in the small port of Ochamchira, close to the border with Georgia (Vlast, August 18). The marines were later deployed in the invasion of Western Georgia.



[edit on 4/22/09 by makeitso]



posted on May, 2 2009 @ 09:41 AM
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The head of South Ossetia's Supreme Court has been killed. Apparently his car had some sort of malfunction, and he crashed into a tree and died.


RIA Novosti: South Ossetian high court official killed in road crash


02/05/2009


The statement said that the accident occurred on Friday evening after Atsamaz Gabulov lost control of his car, which overturned and crash into a tree.

The accident is being investigated but the committee said the crash occured "as a result of a technical fault on the vehicle."

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Gabulov was appointed head of the republic's Supreme Court in 2007.

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posted on May, 2 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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Russian border guards have started their duties on Abkhaz and South Ossetian borders. NATO is about to hold exercises in Georgia soon. Russia protest these (NATO in Georgia) exercises. NATO protests the Russian border guards in Abkhazia and South Ossetia. And the temperature is rising every day as summer is getting closer. Let's hope they (all of them) can keep their heads cool...


RIA Novosti: Russian guards take up duties on Abkhaz, S. Ossetia borders


02/ 05/ 2009


Russian border guards have started their duties as part of a joint border-protection agreement concluded between Russia and two former Georgian republics, a border service spokesperson said on Saturday.

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Russian president Dmitry Medvedev said earlier, "NATO's plans to hold exercises in Georgia...are an open provocation. Exercises must not be held there where a war has been fought," and warned that the exercises could have negative consequences for those who made the decision to hold them.

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posted on May, 2 2009 @ 11:45 AM
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They should be able to keep their heads cool. Where a problem might arise is around the disputed border regions, which Georgia claims are illegally occupied by Russian guards.

Looks like NATO is hellbent on holding these exercises. Common sense is again overwhelmed by idiocy. Oh well - chances are that nothing will happen and the exercises will come and pass.



posted on May, 5 2009 @ 06:13 PM
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Tank Battalion Mutiny

A Georgian tank battalion mutiny has been quelled. Georgia accuses Russia and said it was part of a coup attempt to kill Saakashvili.


Georgian troop rebellion 'over'


Vano Merabishvili said the commander of the Mukhrovani base where a tank battalion mutinied had been arrested and others were being questioned.

Tbilisi said earlier it was part of a Russia-linked coup attempt to kill President Mikhail Saakashvili.

Russia's envoy to Nato described the charges as "mad". The trouble comes a day before Nato exercises in Georgia.

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posted on May, 5 2009 @ 06:26 PM
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Hmmm. Seems like I missed this thread, posted 12 hours ago:


Coup attempt in Georgia *Coup over* (by Vitchilo)



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 03:06 PM
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Clashes in Tbilisi between anti government protesters and police. Opposition leader wounded by the police's bullets.


RIA Novosti: Georgian opposition, police clash in Tbilisi, injured reported - TV


Members of Georgia's opposition and police clashed on Wednesday near the main police department building in the capital Tbilisi, injuries have been reported, Georgian TV channels said.

Levan Gachechiladze, an opposition leader, was wounded after a rubber bullet hit him in the head.

There are reports that Gachechiladze's brother, Giorgi has been detained.

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BBC: Anti-government clash in Georgia



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 05:05 PM
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Apparently, several thousand people are right now gathering in front of the parliament in Tbilisi.


У здания парламента растет число участников акции оппозиции (in Russian)



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 06:02 PM
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I wonder if anybody is reading this? Anyway, here is the latest update in english:


Protesters Gather at Midnight Rally After Clash


Few thousand people were gathered outside the Parliament after midnight, following a clash between police and protesters late on Wednesday outside the Tbilisi police headquarters.

Opposition leaders addressing the protesters were justifying the march on the Tbilisi police headquarters, which led to the clash leaving dozens of people injured.

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“Maniac, ill person is the leader of this country. Saakashvili is dangerous. Saakashvili is Georgia’s problem,” Gubaz Sanikidze of the National Forum told the protesters and also added referring to those persons who, according to opposition, are engaged in attacks on opposition activists: “We know your names, we know your addresses, but we will not read this list now; however, hours remain before we read this list and Georgia does not lack hunters.”

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posted on May, 6 2009 @ 08:22 PM
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Hey Hellmutt! If its any consolation, I'm still an avid follower of
this thread. Looks like things are once again reheating in the region.

Saakashvili has got to go.



Russia expels envoys as Nato war games begin

Relations between Russia and Nato took a turn for the worse yesterday as the military alliance began war games in Georgia.

Russia ordered two Nato diplomats to leave the country in response to the expulsion of two of its envoys at the alliance’s headquarters in Brussels over a spying scandal.

The diplomatic retaliation appeared timed to coincide with the start of Nato’s military exercises in Georgia, a day after President Saakashvili put down a mutiny by a tank battalion of 500 troops at a base outside the capital, Tbilisi.




[edit on 5/6/09 by aecreate]



posted on May, 9 2009 @ 02:35 PM
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20,000 Protesters gather to mark one month of protests.

The young-


The old-


AFP- Thousands rally to mark one month of Georgia protests

TBILISI (AFP) — Thousands of protesters rallied in the Georgian capital Saturday as opposition leaders pressed for a meeting with President Mikheil Saakashvili after a month of demonstrations demanding his ouster.

In a show of strength on the one-month anniversary of the start of protests, about 20,000 opposition supporters gathered outside parliament in central Tbilisi, calling for the president to resign by chanting "Misha Go!"

The protest came after the government and opposition leaders on Friday failed to make any progress in resolving the political stand-off during their first talks since protests began.


Georgian opposition leader Zviad Dzidziguri speaks during a rally-


Georgian opposition leader Levan Gachechiladze-



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 02:02 PM
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Going nowhere, fast. The talks ended again today with no progress.

News from Reuters - Georgia's political stalemate could end in violence

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Talks between Saakashvili and four opposition leaders on Monday ended without result. Saakashvili offered joint reforms, his opponents demanded he resign. The president cautioned he would "not allow anyone to shake our statehood", block roads, or infringe the rights of others for political gain.
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Current protests are testing the patience of the police, who dispersed mass demonstrations against Saakashvili in 2007 with rubber bullets, beatings and tear gas and closed an opposition television station at gunpoint, angering Georgia's Western backers.

Saakashvili is wary of a repeat, particularly with NATO conducting month-long military exercises at an air base 25 km (15 miles) from the capital -- "a clear signal of support to the ruling regime," Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said on Sunday.



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