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Abkhaz Leader Has Ordered Army To Sink Any Georgian Ships In Its Waters

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posted on Aug, 24 2007 @ 06:48 PM
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So Georgia shot at an unidentified flying object. They don't know what type of a jet it was, or if it even was a jet. For all we know Georgia shot down a civilian or commercial airplane that strayed ofcourse. They don't know if it was hit or shot down or neither. They do know it was Russian and military though. Brilliant brilliant people- really, and very imaginative one must say. If only they read back their story to see how absurdly rubish it is.

Georgia should be a hollywood production studio. With all the alleged cr*p that happens there, it has got to be the prime world hotspot. Or maybe they should write war novels. It appears they already got a publisher - BBC.

Now we shall wait for next month's episode of "Georgia is suffering more attacks from Russia, but since we have no proof you will have to take our word for it". Fun times...




posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 03:06 AM
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Actually, I agree with you, maloy.



Btw, there's also a new thread on the latest incident I posted on the previous page. Here:

Georgia fires at Russian plane (by nickh)



posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 03:24 AM
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news.bbc.co.uk...

Tbilisi could not confirm whether the plane was shot down, but said that a nearby section of forest, in Abkhazia's Kodori Gorge, was on fire.


It's not like the aircraft was heading towards a crowded city (sound familar). The Georgians could have atleast waited till it closed within a populated place before shooting it down. Atleast then they would have, imo, been justified in doing so.

Having been to north-western Georgia I can say that it's NOT very populated and is mostly made of small villages scattered throughout. Hardly a metropolitan.



posted on Sep, 10 2007 @ 05:35 PM
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"Terror Attack" in Tskhinvali, South Ossetia


Apparently, there was a "terror attack" in Tskhinvali yesterday. An explosive device was triggered by a cellphone.


Regnum: South Ossetian interior ministry: Explosion in Tskhinvali is terror act


“Today’s terror act is a part of a plan implemented by Georgian security services to destabilize the situation on the eve of the Day of the Republic,” South Ossetian Interior Minister Mikhail Mindzayev told a REGNUM correspondent commenting on an explosion in Tskhinvali during which a local resident was hurt.

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An explosion device detonated in Tskhinvali at 08:30 a.m. today, under preliminary data, it was installed in a cellular phone.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

 

Sukhumi, Abkhazia


I also found this new article. I didn't know that there are still battered, gutted and burned-out buildings in Sukhumi after the war in Abkhazia...


The St. Petersburg Times: Russsians Are Welcome But Georgians Are Not


The seafront at Sukhumi, in Abkhazia, is full of ghosts. Ghosts of those killed in the war and of those who fled, taking whatever they could with them. Ghosts of the people who played, loved and fought there. Ghostly buildings, like the once-grand Hotel Abkhazia, gutted by rocket fire and stripped to a skeleton. If bitter memories of the desperate Abkhaz war still fester here, 14 years after the ceasefire, it’s partly because the evidence of the destruction also remains.

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A few months ago, I dropped in to a little cafe in Sukhumi’s brutalist Soviet-style suburb, Novy Rayon. Back in the early 1990s some of the worst fighting took place in the thick of this forest of apartment blocks. Many of the building are still battered and burned-out, like weird apocalyptic sculptures looming out of the grubby streets. Inside the cafe, an old man offered vodka and camaraderie. But when the talk turned to the Georgians, his mood soured instantly. “They will never be able to come back and live here,” he growled. “If they try, they will be killed.”

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.



posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 02:14 AM
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Georgia is enlarging its army

Are they preparing for war? Some believe that they are preparing to launch a military campaign against Abkhazia and South Ossetia...


RFE/RL: Georgia: What Is Behind Expansion Of Armed Forces?


September 19, 2007


Georgia's parliament voted overwhelmingly on September 14 to adopt a bill aimed at enlarging the country's armed forces by forming an additional fifth brigade numbering 2,500 men.

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Georgia is not at risk of attack from either Armenia or Azerbaijan. Moreover, many experts argue that the trend toward a significantly larger Georgian military is neither particularly prudent nor beneficial for the country's unique security needs.

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Some commentators have suggested that, instead, Georgia's military buildup could be connected to plans to launch a military campaign to regain its breakaway regions of Abkhazia or South Ossetia, or even both.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.



posted on Sep, 27 2007 @ 08:14 AM
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Looks like things are really heating up there:


Abkhazia building up forces on Georgia border

Moscow, September 27 (RIA Novosti) - Abkhazian President Sergei Bagapsh ordered the deployment of additional forces to the de facto independent republic's border with Georgia, the president's official Web site said Thursday.

The measures were taken as tensions continue to rise in South Ossetia.

Anatoly Zaitsev, the head of Abkhazia's general staff, said Abkhazian armed forces were on high alert.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


FDS

posted on Sep, 29 2007 @ 05:13 AM
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something big is happening in Georgia right now

Leader of Georgian Laborites threatens to President Saakashvili with Aragvi Revolution


September 20, 2007
Georgian Labor Party leader Shalva Natelashvili announced at a news conference today he has information that the Georgian authorities plan to sell Aragvi River and are conducting negotiations with several foreign companies on the issue.
“President Saakashvili intends to implement a plan elaborated long time ago and sell Aragvi, the river of all Georgians. Aragvi will not be sacrificed to him and the whole his corrupt regime. He will not live until that day, and he does not give up the idea, he will get an Aragvi Revolution,” Shalva Natelashvili announced.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.



Georgian ex-defense minister: Georgian president was preparing plot against Badri Patarkatsishvili


September 26, 2007
Georgian ex-defense minister, now leader of the Movement for the United Georgia Irakli Okruashvili, speaking on air of Imedi television (Georgia), announced that Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili told him in July 2005 to annihilate known businessman Badri Patarkatsishvili
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Okruashvili announced that it was not a single case when the Georgian president entrusted anyone personally to get rid of an unwanted individual. In particularly, the cruel beating of former MP, businessman Valery Gelashvili in summer of 2005 was allegedly ordered by him to Interior Minister Vano Merabishvili. As for death of Prime Minister Zurab Zhvania, who was found dead in a rented apartment in central Tbilisi on February 3, 2005, Okruashvili declined from commenting on its probable causes saying the body of Zhvania was taken to the apartment after he died.
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“In early July 2005, me and the Georgian president had the following conversation. He asked me directly – what do you think of annihilating our main threat...Then I flied to Turkey and met a person, whose name I cannot cite on objective reasons, who as I knew could deliver the information directly to Americans.”


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Tbilisi planned assault on Tskhinvali in spring 2006


September 26, 2007
Tbilisi developed plans to assault Tskhinvali in a special operation in spring 2006, former Georgian Defense Minister Irakly Okruashvili has said.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Former Georgian defense minister arrested


September 27, 2007
Georgian television company Imedi reports that former Georgian Defense Minister Irakli Okruashvili has just been arrested at his political party's office.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Former Georgian defense minister charged with corruption


September 27, 2007
The Georgian Prosecutor General's Office on Thursday charged former Defense Minister Irakli Okruashvili with corruption.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Georgian opposition calls for riots


September 26, 2007
Several Georgian opposition parties have accused the current leadership of “terrorism.” The Georgian opposition addressed the nation with a call to take part in riots and claim for resignation of the government and calling up early presidential and parliamentary elections. Leaders of the Republican Party, the Movement for the United Georgia, the People’s Party, the Democratic Front parliamentary faction and NGO Institute for Equal Rights made their statements about arrest of former defense minister Irakli Okruashvili.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


FDS

posted on Sep, 29 2007 @ 05:21 AM
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Tbilisi court gives two months of preliminary conviction to Okruashvili


September 29, 2007
The Tbilisi City Court granted a Prosecutor General's Office motion to sentence former Defense Minister Irakly Okruashvili to two months of preliminary conviction early on Saturday.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.





posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 01:07 AM
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Georgia bitterly complained to the U.N. of Russian Peacekeeping forces acting improperly, and insisted the U.N. replace them with "competent peacekeepers".

Then Georgia arrested 3 Russian peacekeepers last week.



According to "NG" the press service of the Georgian Ministry of Internal Affairs, those people (are) involved in the recent kidnapping in the territory of South Ossetia, ~ three Georgian citizens and illegal detention ibid. six Georgian journalists.


Russia's response was to cry to the U.N. Security Counsel, while simultaneously begining a "purge" of Georgians by arresting and deporting them.


Sat 7 Oct 2006
RUSSIAN police have ordered Moscow schools to provide them with lists of pupils with Georgian surnames as a purge against the citizens of its southern neighbour gathers pace. In a move that brought chill reminders of the excesses of the Stalin era, the schools have been told to identify all children, however young.

The demand comes as a Kremlin campaign to arrest and deport Georgian citizens gathered pace with the first plane-load flown to Tbilisi yesterday. Across Moscow, police have spent the week raiding Georgian restaurants, shops and businesses, including the city's two biggest casinos, both of which are now closed. The owners of many Georgian businesses have fled.

the Kremlin has since stepped up its campaign against Georgia, blockading road, rail, air and postal links and deploying navy ships off the Georgian coast.

President Vladimir Putin has backed the campaign, and warned "foreign sponsors", believed to refer to the United States, to keep out of the way of Russia's blockade of Georgia.





[edit on 10/7/07 by makeitso]



posted on Oct, 19 2007 @ 01:40 AM
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Georgia/Abkhazia border clashes

Abkhazian customs official has been killed in a gunfight with Georgian border guards. Two Russians were killed Sept 20 "at very close range", perhaps executed after being wounded.


Kyiv Post: Abkhazian customs official killed in clash with Georgian border guards


Oct 18 2007


Georgian and Abkhazian border guards clashed along the boundary dividing Abkhazian-controlled territory from the rest of Georgia, in a gunfight that killed an Abkhazian customs officers, Georgian police said Thursday.

The skirmish Wednesday was the second bout of violence to break out between the two sides in the past month.

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On Tuesday, meanwhile, Russia accused Georgia of premeditated murder, citing a preliminary United Nations report on the Sept. 20 clash between Georgian and Abkhazia forces that resulted in the deaths of two Russians.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.



posted on Oct, 31 2007 @ 03:29 AM
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The situation is very tense between Russia and Georgia (again), after three Georgian policemen were beat up by Russian soldiers on the Georgia/Abkhazian border. Abkhazian and Georgian armies are in state of alert, and troops are being moved in from both sides...


Interfax: Abkhazia sending additional troops to Gali district - Bagapsh


Additional Abkhaz forces are being introduced into the Gali district to prevent provocations from the Georgian side, Abkhaz President Sergei Bagapsh has said.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Civil Georgia: Confrontation in Ganmukhuri

Kyiv Post: Georgia claims Russian peacekeepers apprehend, beat 3 policemen near Abkhazia



posted on Oct, 31 2007 @ 04:28 PM
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A new video from Al Jazeera. It shows Saakashvili yelling at the Russian commander, and he tells the Russians to get their asses out of there.


Russia's strained relations with Georgia



posted on Nov, 1 2007 @ 03:54 AM
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Georgia: Russians Out!

Georgia has ended its agreement for the presence of CIS peacekeepers in Abkhazia. They demand that the Russians leave.


Georgia Ends Agreement for Peacekeepers in Abkhazia


Georgia has withdrawn its agreement for the presence of Commonwealth of Independent States peacekeepers in breakaway Abkhazia after an October 30 conflict between Georgian police and Russian peacekeepers in a Georgian village bordering the disputed territory.

"A decision to end the Russian peacekeepers’ mandate e and to delegitimize their presence has been made," Parliamentary Speaker Nino Burjanadze told reporters on October 31 after a meeting between government ministers and members of the ruling National Movement Party.

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Georgian television repeatedly broadcast shots of Saakashvili, flanked by Tbilisi Mayor Givi Ugulava, striding purposefully to the site of the clash to examine the wounded police officers and to lash out at a somewhat bemused senior Russian peacekeeper for the group’s "provocation" and violation of the peacekeeping mandate. With the cameras filming, Saakashvili told the peacekeepers that their head, Sergei Chaban, is a persona non grata on Georgian territory, and demanded an official apology for the treatment of the police officers.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.



posted on Nov, 1 2007 @ 11:17 PM
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This is Abkhazia tv's reporting on the incident (dubbed in english). Check out Saakashvili near the end of the video, when he demands Russia to apologize for the incident...





posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 12:46 AM
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Georgian officials are now claiming that Russia has violated their airspace again. They report that 3 Russian AF planes were in Georgian airspace for a minute and penetrated 3km to the georgia. In addition a Russian frigate sailed very close to Georgian territorian waters, without a commonly given prior notice by russians.
YLE - In Finnish



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 03:40 PM
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Poisoned Wine?

Apparently, 20 opposition activists who were protesting in front of the parliament in Tbilisi have been poisoned by wine. Somebody in police uniform came by in a jeep and gave them wine for free. They drank it and got sick.


Opposition Activists Poisoned by Wine, Delivered to Hospital


Nov. 05, 2007


The opposition leaders say the victims were given poisoned wine to drink.

A jeep with wine drove to the place of the rally early November 5. The wine was distributed by an unidentified police colonel, the opposition leaders claimed as quoted by Trend news agency.

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Ambulance cars are working near the parliament, helping the victims. Of interest is that ambulance doctors deny the story of poisoning, saying instead that they have diagnosed the alcohol withdrawal syndrome and overcooling.

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I guess it's a good idea to only drink wine given to you by somebody you know...



posted on Nov, 5 2007 @ 10:58 PM
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A Georgian friend of mine who has family in Georgia said that things are quickly spiralling out of control, and Saakashvilli is repressing not only all opposition but also all media coming in and out of the country. He has arrested members of his own administration now who have voiced concern, and he is quickly losing all support he has left. What is going on now is earily similar to the "Rose Revolution", only now in reverse. The people are trying to force an election ahead of time, because they fear that another year (election is supposed to be in 2008) will allow Saakashvilli to cement his position in government and create a total dictatorship. Every day the protests are getting more violent, and dozens of people are detained without trial.

So what is Saaka to do but resort to only propaganda he has left - try and unite the population by making up new stories about big bad Russia. With every new "Russia is attacking - EVERYONE PANIC" story, he is getting more and more pathetic. Georgians no longer give a cr*p about Abkhazia, Russia or any other fabricated bullsh*t. They just want the imposter out of government.

Given Georgian tendencies of forced coups, I would be surprised if Saakashvilli last untill the election. He will either leave his post, and likely run away from Georgia with his tail between his legs, or be forced to defend against a coup-AKA-revolution. And if it turns to violence, which is looking more and more likely, Saaka will get what he deserves - a proper assassination. He should have stayed in the US and been a lawyer or a political prostitute instead, so you can't say too many people will feel sorry for him.

Now such a turn of events is nothing new for Georgia. After all every single administration the country had since its independence has been forced from power. The mystery factor this time is the US, and their precious oil pipeline. Will US sit still and watch as its investment in the new Georgian Dictatorship is destroyed, or will it supply Saakashvilli with necessary means to stay in power. Yeah - the same means it is supplying to Musharraf who is digging his own grave as well - including international political support and military supllies. If it is the later, what will Russia do? Finance the opposition? Create a near flare-up in Abkhazia/South Ossetia? Smells like a proxy conflict.


I was saying this all along on these forums since the "Rose Revolution". US is sticking its nose where it does not belong, and Saakashvilli is nothing more than a US puppet who will create a new war in the Caucasus. But noooooooooo - since it was called the "revolution" and the great holy US proclaimed it a democracy, then the ignorant horde must support their new Allied Dictator for Hire no matter how deranged he is.

Here is what I see happening. Saaka is overturned one way or the other. The opposition that comes to power will immediately seek to negotiate with Russia to open trade barriers. Russia will pressure Abkhazia and South Ossetia into a deal with the Georgian government. And US will have stained its reputation in yet another country, adding it to the list of the "people who are not with US, and are therefore against the US". As for the pipeline? A good source of revenue for the new administration, and yet more incentives for them to overthrow Saaka as soon as possible.



posted on Nov, 7 2007 @ 07:40 AM
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Today, police used teargas and water canons against protesters in Tbilisi.


BBC: Tear gas used on Georgia protest


Georgian police have used tear gas and water cannon to dispel opposition demonstrators staging a sixth day of protests in the capital, Tbilisi.

Several people were injured during the clash on the city's main street in front of parliament.

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They are calling for the president's resignation and want a fresh election.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.



posted on Nov, 7 2007 @ 07:47 AM
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Here's a video report from RussiaToday on today's incident.





posted on Nov, 7 2007 @ 08:50 AM
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The riots continue. Police are firing rubber bullets and use sound guns, Hundreds are injured, including journalists.


RussiaToday: Georgian police use plastic bullets, sound guns against protesters


Clashes have once again started in the Georgian capital Tbilisi. Riot police are firing rubber bullets in an attempt to break up a mass protest of opposition groups. They have also been using tear gas, water cannons and sound guns to disperse thousands of protesters.

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About 70,000 people are said to have taken part in the demonstrations, with many involved in clashes with the police. Now they are gathering on the bank of the Kura River in Tbilisi to continue the rally.

Hundreds are reported to have been injured, including journalists covering the event.

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