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The masons I have known spoke of following their natural instincts, and forwarding blame to the creator. If you believe in a higher power, and you believe that you were created by that power, then the responsibility for your tendencies lies solely in the hands of your creator.
If you follow your true nature, you have no reason to be ashamed or feel guilty. You believe you will be judged fairly in the end, and so do not waste time judging yourself, no? Certainly brothers are admonished not judge one another.
That's my understanding. I subscribe to many of the same beliefs, so I can at least speak for myself in these matters. As I said, judgement is hardwired, there is no need for human morality. Tawdry trappings that detract from the majesty of life.
Do you condemn an owl for eating a mouse? No. The owl is simply doing what comes naturally. So are we. If this isn't absolution, I don't know the meaning of the word.
But nobody will believe you, because you have a vested interest in hiding the truth, if the truth is indeed as horrible as some say.
Semantics. See my response to Sebatwerk.
Originally posted by umwolves123
how can you say this stuff is great...never mind what he says about masonry, but think about what this man says about OUR country. we can all have our different oppinions about masonry, illuminati, or anything else but each person should be thankfull for all our country has givin us.
[edit on 24-7-2005 by umwolves123]
Originally posted by suzy ryan
Sebatwerk and other masons; you take food for thought and call it bait while you spit your poisonous insults at those who have suffered at the hands of your brothers/sisters.
Troll? This is how you answer those who ask for answers? You must be up for a bollocking from your "superiors" for even suggesting that you could be drawn into an argument with people who know so little.
God does not control every action of every person on earth, therefore each has free will to act. If the actions are incorrect, improper, illegal or immoral; then the guilt lays squarely upon the individual, not God.
This goes to the nurture vs. nature argument of human behavior.
One can only act purely of nature if they can set aside the environmental influences in their life.
No easy task. Therefore "human morality" becomes
exceedingly important as a control.
Achems Razor then, the simplest answer is that none of those absurd and disturbing conspiracy theories have merit without proof.
Not so. Doing those things may bring me pleasure and help others, but pleasure is not power. Since I seek no recognition for the things I do and in most cases give anonymously, no one owes me anything. So I guess I don't see your point.
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Sebat, you might not have seen such things happen, but I assure you, it has, and they do. Personally, I chalk it up to human nature, and nothing else. But, mind you, I feel that I'm a little saner than most. That could be taken as the first signs of neurosis bording on psychosis, but I do.
That's the secret that you'll impart to me? A couple handshakes and a hug? That does me no good as it isn't a "secret", but a secret manner of recognizing one another. It'll do me no good because I'd never use it in a false manner. That is to say, Trickery is wrong in my frame, myopic point of view.
But, if that is all you'll give me, thanks. That is more than anyone else has given me!
Originally posted by df1
The point I most wanted to make in my previous post is that I think my brother Masons should resist the Mason baiting and that each Mason should be his own moderator. Each response made by a Mason should be intended to provide accurate information about Masonry and in a manner that would result in the reader having a favorable opinion of Masonry. Without singling out any particular post, I believe that often the opposite occurs to the detriment of Masonry.
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
So, what you're saying is, there are no secrets?
Lookit, you stay away from the rest of the forums, elsewise you might be tempted to screw them up, too. What's the use of a conspiracy board if some jerk takes away all the conspiracy topics!!