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BBC Interviews UFO hacker

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posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 04:30 AM
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hacking hacking hacking the days are over as life after death




posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by Zeta_101
I don't think he'd waste 70 years of his life just to tell us a fake little story.


You'd be surprised what a failed attempt to find anything and struck with 70 yrs of jail time would do to you. Think of all the press, the marketing, the possble book deals you'd get.

Sorry but even a noobie script kiddie knows you not suppose to go around and delete account on a system your cracking. And this guy deleted 1300 accounts! As for what he found, I doubt he found anything on an uncalssifed system. If anything he found out peoples email and what their SSN are. Other then that, he stretching to get something for doing something stupid. There is quite a few people that will buy into this mania. I do believe there is something out there. Wiether or not the govenrment is involved remains to be seen.

-Aza


[edit on 25-7-2005 by Azathoth]



posted on Jul, 26 2005 @ 07:34 AM
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Hmm. Three questions:

1) He was doing this for years, looking at images of UFO's in stellite images pending airbrushing, looking at lists of personel transfers between US military space vessels...and for all that time he kept everything he found solely on his local hard drive?

2) He was so disturbed by the ease with which he accesed these systems that he considered writing up his methods and detail and making them publicly available..but it never occurred to him to distribute the material itself?

3) In the interview he states that he was unable to download images, but that he was able to look at them on the desktop of the machine he hacked into. Huh...? What does he mean by that? Was he looking at file names and icons only?



posted on Jul, 26 2005 @ 08:44 AM
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I listened to the BBC interview several times...

You can tell a lot by a persons voice.


Methinks many of you lads are being a bit harsh on this enterprising Xfiles-type seeker. Much of what he says both has validity and smacks of realism in a lot of different areas, especially those statements that reveal/deal with mindset...

Something else that seems a little strange, is the substanstial efforts at what seems like redirection.

On the flip side of the coin, one also needs to be aware of the onion. Some of your more talented CI types just love sucking people in to the wakes of their little efforts...

You always need to keep that in mind...

Whirrr!!!! Whirrr!!!

But I guess that would be another subject, heh?



posted on Jul, 26 2005 @ 03:18 PM
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Well listening to the interview he seems pretty straight up to me, I can relate to most of what he says without a problem.

I don;t know hwere the 1700 accounts being deleted came from, I've seen it in reports but does he say he did it? In the interview? I apologise if he did.

With regards to viewing the picture on the desktop remotely, I know exactly where he is coming from, I use a program called WinVNC (Virtual Network Computing) at work. I also use it for gags, I control the computer from home via the internet and freak the guys at work out, they know it's me now but it is funny, especially as I can watch them on the CCTV I've got going through my work computer too.
The best bit was when I loaded up Word and typed 'I'm Watching you' then brought up the CCTV application with a view showing their backs of them looking at the screen, see what I mean?

Yes, the raw image may be 100's of megabytes, but when you view it on the remote computer the only data being sent down the connection for you to see is the resolution of the display at the other end. That's how it works.
Windows XP even has it built in, Remote Desktop I think they call it or something like that. So that makes perfect sense.

No listening to the interview it makes perfect sense, and is very believable.
People are slack in security, and even though UFOs may seem amazing to u
s, if it's part of your job it is just as ordinary and mundane as everything else after a while. Humans are humans and they will always cut corners, be lazy and assume anything is someone else's problem, or it 'can't happen'.



posted on Jul, 27 2005 @ 12:57 PM
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What a story! Instead of a trial, the powers that be should have hired this guy. Why not? He's alot smarter than most of government-issue hacks he was spying on.

I don't see why he deserves jail time. He didn't make any money on this. He didn't consort with the enemy on this. Give him a break and go after all the child porn kings.




posted on Jul, 27 2005 @ 10:31 PM
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I'm not sure whether this guy is a genius or a complete idiot he did a completely amazing thing but doesn't have any proof. Smoking pot while looking at photos of craft that's home base is probably area 51 and not having any proof to show the world, I have to believe his humanist agenda,(no one else would be so stupid to do all this and not have any proof) it's a shame someone didn't do this for money than we would have some real evidence. Actually now I am sure he's an idiot because in the end he did this all for nothing with the exception of the possibilty of a 70yr prison sentence.



posted on Jul, 27 2005 @ 10:54 PM
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link to an interview on his site

www.spy.org.uk...

Listening to him he seems to be a glorified script kiddie, not a "master hacker" he just downloaded programs that scanend tthe military machines for unchanged admin pw's.

He said that other hackers are doing it as well. he makes it sound easy to hack, which makes me wonder if the machines were not very important.

He has no evidence of what he says, and come on, what would be the first thing you would do if you found evidence of the US military having UFO's?

said the pics were too large to copy to his own machine.

He found evidence of ufo's being airbrushed out from navy, military, and other sites, and didn't save ANY information?



posted on Jul, 28 2005 @ 08:39 AM
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He is a master hacker!

No! He's a script kiddie!



If he is such a script kiddie, then how could he possibly have gotten access to all of the sites he is being charged with having accessed and wreaked havoc upon?


>Didn't save ANY info...
Yeah, that would have been nice.


But now if anybody ever saved any first hand information... None of us would probably be here, yada yada yadaing.


Nah, we would all probably be at the Church of the First Sacred Alien, located somewhere in downtown Los Angeles, praying for all of our dreams to come true...




posted on Jul, 28 2005 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by Netchicken
link to an interview on his site

www.spy.org.uk...

Listening to him he seems to be a glorified script kiddie, not a "master hacker" he just downloaded programs that scanend tthe military machines for unchanged admin pw's.

He said that other hackers are doing it as well. he makes it sound easy to hack, which makes me wonder if the machines were not very important.

He has no evidence of what he says, and come on, what would be the first thing you would do if you found evidence of the US military having UFO's?

said the pics were too large to copy to his own machine.

He found evidence of ufo's being airbrushed out from navy, military, and other sites, and didn't save ANY information?


yeh i mean how big do these pictures need to be
you think if he got in he would'nt be able to have enough time to copy a picture
lol come on

(i play a lot of the game uplink i suggest it
hehe



posted on Jul, 28 2005 @ 04:42 PM
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He could have pressed the Print Screen button....



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 02:23 AM
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yeh but hes meant to be a world class hacker but he cant seem to download a picture not only that it does'nt take much to hack windows


and if the milittary systems were built on windows there just asking to be hacked i mean come on people use linux or somthing

at one point ealry in development windows had all of its code leaked throughout the internet and any hacker could get hold of it which is one of the reasons its hacked a lot

basically what this bloke was doing was using a program to bouce his ip address so it would take longer for him to be hunted down but he even admited he only did it with a couple of ip addresses i mean come on
he is no hacker



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 02:26 AM
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this hacker could have been referring to DEM maps or something of that nature.

but he indeed sucks.

canadian military and government use linux on all systems i believer.

but our internet security sucks. we even admit it.



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 02:32 AM
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Is this the same guy that claimed the US had a fleet of interstellar ships, and even had a crew list, then copied the list from a Star Trek fanclub site, and "released" it? heh. You'd think he'd have copied SOME evidence that he did it.



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 02:37 AM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
Is this the same guy that claimed the US had a fleet of interstellar ships, and even had a crew list, then copied the list from a Star Trek fanclub site, and "released" it? heh. You'd think he'd have copied SOME evidence that he did it.


the first part is right, but the star trek fan list was done by a member of this forum, not the hacker guy.




posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 04:12 AM
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I think we can safely say that it doesn't matter either way. We'll never know... If he was telling the truth, it doesn't matter because he has no evidence. If he's lying it doesn't matter because very few people believe him anyway. The people that believe him probably aren't important enough to do anything about it, and if they are, there's that whole lack of evidence thing.

I will say that listening to the guys interview, it sounds as if at least HE believes what he's saying. He doesn't SOUND like he's lying to me, but again that doesn't matter.

If people want to prove the existence of UFOs they should focus on something more solid and credible like Rendlesham, Shag Harbor, etc.



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 08:41 AM
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My money is on he's not letting on what he actually knows.


He has a pending 'trial'. Of course he's playing the idiot.

Windows vs Linux. You've got to be kidding right?


ALL systems are easily hackable. Just because Windows systems are more frequently targeted and thus more frequently 'hacked' doesn't in any way shape or form make Linux more 'secure'.

Let's see what he says after he gets the slap on the wrist... My money is he will do like many others... and just let himself be bought!



posted on Jul, 29 2005 @ 08:46 AM
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Honestly, I haven't read much of this thread but it seems unlikely that he accessed information.
Why?
As someone mentioned (think it was Gazrok) they would probably store their über-top-secret-info on an intranet.



posted on Jul, 30 2005 @ 08:28 AM
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the interview has been changed, any one got a link for it now,
sounds good.



posted on Jul, 30 2005 @ 08:35 AM
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Yah, you know I listened to that interview. What surprised me was how cool he was throughout the interview.

Even saying he didn't disclose any secrets so he can't face any real time in Prison.

Laws are a little more strict on the Nation Security level in the US now.
If I were him the last thing I would have done was give that BBC interview.

If indeed he's extridited he may be facing 60 years or more and he may just get that serious kind of time.

Dallas




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