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posted on Aug, 22 2005 @ 09:28 PM
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Hehe, I am not a fan of Chairman Mao although he is still a giant.

It is good for Chairman Mao to die at 70's otherwise the culture revolution led by him will totally destroy the whole China. Also, the death of Mao's son in north korea battlefield might be also a good thing if we take a look at the current leaders in North korea now. That is why I give him 70% good and 30% bad.

However, if you deny the archivement that CCP make to the economic growth of China, you should also reject what Democracy and Republic parties did for US. Frankly speaking, I have 100% confidence on the personal ability of the current China leaders.

A well eudcated and sane person should see the world objectively.
From your articles, I don't see you have such kind of idea.

Originally posted by suihx

Originally posted by google_abcd
1. Chairman Mao led PLA to defeat USA in the North Koera War in 1950s, the first winning war against foreign country since the last 3 centuries in China's history. Also under his lead, China made out first atomic bomb.
He did many wrong things during the culture revolution, but we can't say he do nothing for China and Chinese people.


It seems to me, the first winning war against a foreign country is the sino-japanese war, during which gave Mao enough time to prepare for the incoming civil war. right?
If you’ve read some book about how the atomic bomb were made, you will know under what a horrible circumstances those scientists worked, “Under Mao’s Leadership”, revolutionists were send to the base to find “enemy spies”, and those don’t “confess their crimes” were tortured ,abused and even executed. It is really a miracle for those scientists to make any achievement under such circumstances, and I guess those scientists will be rolling in their graves if they knew you attribute all their achievements to “Mao’s leadership”.
Mao not only do wrong during the Cultural Revolution, under his leadership, china’s economic system totally collapsed, 30 million peasants died of “unnatural reasons”, also under his leadership, the productivity of agriculture has fallen under that of the Han Dynasty(which was 2000 years ago) , now ,please name just one thing he did good for the Chinese people(note, it ‘s Chinese people, not CCP or Mao himself).



. During the last 25 years, CCP led China to archive the highest GDP growth rate since the last few hundreds of years. It is a very stupid idea to ask current Chinese people to abandon CCP with such great achivement in the economic growth.



I just wonder why you always attribute every good thing to the “lead of CCP”, china has underwent rapid GDP growth, but it is mainly because the Chinese people are industries and smart, (and what’s more important, Mao is dead),those Chinese living in other countries has much better income than those in the mainland, how do you explain this.
Also, making money is one thing, how do you share it is another, seemingly in china, to much money has gone to those “brilliant leaders”.


And one thing I want remind you, you can receive education, you can learn English and you can defend Mao on the internet is because
Mao’s dead!




posted on Aug, 22 2005 @ 09:42 PM
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To Beijing Military Academy:
Are you really from Beijing Military Academy?
If so I am very happy to know that. If all Chinese military leaders can know english same as you, then the feature of China's national defence is brilliant.

2000 years ago, in "The Art of War",Sun Tzu said:
Hence the saying: If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.

Originally posted by The Middle Kingdom
This is my opinion, next Mao sent his troops in full force during the "hundred regiments offencive" which not only spolied Japanese plans but also stoped any KMT attempts to make an apeasement peace with the Japanese. And also puh-leez the KMT also kept troops and supplies inreserve so THEY could defeat a weakened CCP! Both sides did it but Mao put more effort into defeating the Japanese, and as for using underhanded tactics, geurilla warfare is just as far as droping prescision guided bombs into windows of using tanks with motorized infantry, war is war you do what it takes to win anything less is neglience.

If Chiang had been a fair minded politician who trated the people well and was a completely comptent tactician he would have WON but he lost, EMBASSINGLY! Chiang had a multimillion man army and it melted away as hundreds of thousands deserted and join the CCP, formed their own armies, or ran away to tibet. And KMT POW's when told the truth about the KMT joined the Red Army and fought viligently against the KMT forces this is undenyable in plenty of WESTERN (AKA UK, Canadian, American) history books!

Did I call Mao my father? No. Did I say that the Cultural Revolution of hunky dory? No. Did I say that everything the CCP did was right? No.

I am defending the CCP because not everything it does is wrong, it is not evil it is pursueing a policy of realpolitik something that nations including the US have been doing for years, the CCP wishes to make China strong and is trying to help the people as best as it can without sacrificing its position in the world something that ALL countries except Canada does (canada puts people first). You keep demonizing Mao but what about Chiang any arguement against Mao I could easily use vs Chiang-Kai-Shek, with the exceptions of the CR the rampant starvation of the pre-liberation years have pretty much come to a close, today the average chinese eats more, works less and has access to a decent education something that wasn't availiable during the Dynasty and RoC/Warlod days.

Say what you want but it is UNDENYABLE that things are better today then they were before 1949.

[edit on 20-8-2005 by The Middle Kingdom]


[edit on 22-8-2005 by google_abcd]



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 10:06 AM
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However, if you deny the archivement that CCP make to the economic growth of China, you should also reject what Democracy and Republic parties did for US.

I am really confused of this conclusion. The economy of US is much better than china , but I never saw anyone attribute this to the “brilliant leadership of Democracy or Republic party”. The reason for china(the mainland)’s progress in economy is because chinese peoples is industrious and smart, and this time the CCP didn’t breach it. It’s not a achievement of the chinese people, not the CCP, in fact, the overseas chinese area not underwent Mao’s rule is much better developed.




Frankly speaking, I have 100% confidence on the personal ability of the current China leaders.
A well eudcated and sane person should see the world objectively.
From your articles, I don't see you have such kind of idea.



If u disagree with what I said, u can put up your opinion and its evidence, if u think what I post is wrong, then disprove it, there is lots of things u can do than doubt my education and sanity.
Also, as long as u can’t elect the leader ,u have or don’t have confidence in the current CCP leader means little.



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 02:44 PM
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Obviously you know little about China's economics. If you really want evidences, it is quite easy to find them.

Currently in China most of the 100 biggest companies are 100% owned by China government.
Their leaders/officers/CEO/managers and many workers are CCP officers or at least CCP members.

Let's take a look at the list of the companies owned by China government:
1.China Telecom(around 1 billion local phone and 100 million ADSL users, millions of employees)
2.China Mobile/China Unicom(around 200 million cell phone users, millions of employees)
3.China Bank(95% banks in China should in the list)
4.China electrionic company(All Chinese people are their customers)
5.China Oil company(same as above)
6.China Gas company(same as above)
7.China Airline company(devided into few companies by location, stil same as above)
8.China Metal company
.....

In your words, since these companies are controled by the "evil" CCP
they should do nothing to the contribution of economics development in China.
Just wondering how can you explain it?


Originally posted by suihx


However, if you deny the archivement that CCP make to the economic growth of China, you should also reject what Democracy and Republic parties did for US.

I am really confused of this conclusion. The economy of US is much better than china , but I never saw anyone attribute this to the “brilliant leadership of Democracy or Republic party”. The reason for china(the mainland)’s progress in economy is because chinese peoples is industrious and smart, and this time the CCP didn’t breach it. It’s not a achievement of the chinese people, not the CCP, in fact, the overseas chinese area not underwent Mao’s rule is much better developed.




Frankly speaking, I have 100% confidence on the personal ability of the current China leaders.
A well eudcated and sane person should see the world objectively.
From your articles, I don't see you have such kind of idea.



If u disagree with what I said, u can put up your opinion and its evidence, if u think what I post is wrong, then disprove it, there is lots of things u can do than doubt my education and sanity.
Also, as long as u can’t elect the leader ,u have or don’t have confidence in the current CCP leader means little.


[edit on 23-8-2005 by google_abcd]

[edit on 23-8-2005 by google_abcd]



posted on Aug, 23 2005 @ 07:03 PM
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Middle kingdom I hope you can read this thats my opinion of you


I mean really you command of English is great, you speak it so well I'm not even sure your from the Beijing military academy. Because the only way you could be is if you were a teacher.

tell the students I said

/Goodbye

[edit on 23-8-2005 by ikillspys]

*LAST WARNING TO POST IN ENGLISH*

[edit on 28-8-2005 by Amuk]


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posted on Aug, 24 2005 @ 10:38 AM
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Just wondering how can you explain it?


Evil CCP shamelessly controls these "rich" corperations that are sure to get benefits using its political power, this is not CCP's achievement.



posted on Aug, 24 2005 @ 12:16 PM
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Yep, shameless is the perfect word to describe CCP. Claiming others' credit that's wat they do all the time.

Oh izit surprising that China's largest companies are state-controlled? I tot CCP LOVES to control



posted on Aug, 24 2005 @ 09:40 PM
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Not a CCP publication but I think is an english one by Peguin books "Political Leader's of the 20th Centaury: Mao Tse-tung" and "Inside the People's Republic" compiled by a comittee of concerned asian scholars who are American citizens. Which also states that China's 5 year plans and the Great Leap forward help to increase heavy and light industry and since then the CCP invested heavily in agriculture to have their own green revolution.

And as for my spelling I was feeling lazy that day.

[edit on 24-8-2005 by The Middle Kingdom]

[edit on 24-8-2005 by The Middle Kingdom]


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posted on Aug, 25 2005 @ 07:31 PM
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The great leap forward is the main reason for at least 30 millions of Chinese's death of starvation.

Shameless!



posted on Aug, 28 2005 @ 09:27 AM
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Your a broken record you know that.



posted on Aug, 28 2005 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by The Middle Kingdom
Your a broken record you know that.


Pot. Kettle. Black.

Make a sentence with these three words, get 100 points.



posted on Aug, 28 2005 @ 05:39 PM
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I have a black Kettle which I use to boil pot.

You weren't expecting that one neh?

(j/k I'm not a druggy)



posted on Mar, 6 2006 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by masqua
That IS an astronomical number, isn't it?
I would really like to see that verified through something other than the right wing fundy sites, though...because if it is true, that would mean the murder of 3 times the population of Canada.

I find that hard to believe.


Trust it. It's one of the more reliable estimates I've read.

Certainly the leadership is capable of it and has been in our modern era.

Mao was incredibly deadly. The dying goes on. Sadly, too often over religious issues.

But the citizens are just fodder for the rulers. The emporer's mentality has not changed all that much.

I won't elaborate on where my convictions come from. Too unwise to.



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