In light of the recent revival of promoting democracy in the world(you know by whom
), I suggest we have a discussion here. Just as the subject says,
Should the two "values" be promoted all over the world?
Given the reason behind promoting democracy and "freedom" is that it is a basic human rights, the question should be:
FREEDOM & DEMOCRACY - BASIC HUMAN VALUES OR WESTERN IDEAS ONLY?
My personal opinion is that all form of human societies are acceptable as it is, there is no right or wrong here as everything is relative to the
person concerned. I believe that FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY is only a concept of the western cultures and it is not universal, therfore should not be
forced upon other cultures.
By freedom i mean the "right to free speech" etc. just to clear things up. freedom has a lot of meaning you know...
By democracy i mean an election between parties that are all secular. True democracy can include the people choosing a non-secular leader and through
means different from election. (Remeber Khomeini and Iran?)
1. the culture that is commonly held as complete anti-thesis of the western culture nowadays is Islamic culture. From what i understand, it is not
that they are less civilized and human respecting than western people, they just have a different sense of what is "VALUES" to them.
Islamic culture is commonly percieved as "oppressive", "theocratic dictatorial" and "intolerant". These views are only prevalent in societies
that is western.
What western people may perceive as dictatorial, for the muslims as rule by allah through leaders implementing koranic rules. Nonetheless, the people
SUPPORTS the system because that system is PART of their culture.
Intolerant because they persecute people who did not follow islamic culture. Except for islamic extremist that kill "infidels abroad", those
promoting islamic teachings are applied only to ARAB and predominantly MUSLIM lands and is not for "external consumption". foreigners living in the
lands of islam is expected to follow but those outside are not.
2. people living in totalitarian and authoritarian govt. are percieved as victims of the oppressive regime and should be "liberated"
example: former communist dictatorship and their leftovers. South and central american "strong man rulers", african "tyrants" and so on...
western media (those supporting "liberation" agenda mostly) always presents those people living in this countries as oppressed by the lack of
freedom and democracy.
Do these people really want democracy? Is it in their culture to elect leaders? In their history, has leaders been given power through people
choosing between contenders and not by inheritance and power-grabs?
How about countries that are now "failing states" that adopted "democracy" despite it not being a part of their culture?
Freedom, now that is very hard to define! even philosophy had a difficult time defining that one. Does everyone wants the "right to say anything you
want"? Does everybody values "the right to criticize your govt"?
these are political "freedom", how about societal "freedom":
if freedom means the ability to buy things, dictatorship also allows that!
If freedom means the right to purchase ANYTHING YOU WANT, then even western democracies does not allow that. (America and drugs = NO)
It is really a matter of the culture allowing the "right" of its constituents to buy something that is contradicting to the culture.
Again as my previews thread, lets have a nice discussion, give your views and support it. Remember, no one is right or wrong in this one. it is a
matter of cultural perspective.
To mods, I believe this topic is very relevant to current events going on in the world (Promote democracy) and should be placed here..However if you
want to transfer it again...go ahead!
[edit on 7/22/2005 by thaei]