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posted on Aug, 22 2003 @ 08:36 PM
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THIS IS SOMETHING I WROTE A WHILE AGO ON ANOTHER SITE IN RESPONSE TO SOMEONE WHO WAS POSITIVE THAT AI LIFEFORMS WERE EVOLVING ON THE INTERNET.

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the basic premis of my reply will be "what the h**l did you say" with an emphasis on confusion and amazement that somehow AI currently exists in the first place, and that it is also on the internet. let me say this.... no, you're wrong.

On the other hand, if you were asking if it were possible that a form of AI would evolve from the presently non sentient expanse of 1's and 0's we call the internet... then.... oh wait... no, you're still wrong.

The internet is simply a system of computers connected to computers sharing information. (That's the most basic DUH explanation I could think of). BUT since NONE of these computers are in and of themselves "inteligent" nor has the real potential to become so with present technology, then how would this come to pass? First off, let's examine what the true definition of "inteligent" is in this case. Take for example a person and a computer. What is the most fundimental difference between the two? It is the ability that the human posses to make a truely random choice. If I ask you to choose either the number 1 or the number 2... I have NO way of truely knowing which you'll choose. When a computer makes does something "random" like with a "random number generator" as it were, all the computer is doing is taking the TIME (and perhaps the date as well) and running it through an algorithm that creates a number. If you know the algorithm and the precise time the computer is going to compute the "random" number, then you too can get the same "random" number before the computer does. SO. Until a computer can make a truely random choice, there will be no AI, and I'm damn sure it won't simply arise from the cesspool of BS and porn we lovingly call the internet.

The internet is, however, really cool. So ok... maybe. =)

I'd like to discuss for a moment the "creatures" you say may be lying dormant in the internet unbeknownst to us. Shall I suggest the the Personal Homepage Monkey may be one of these. A creature devoid of inteligence and creative ability that uses MS Word templates to create web pages where the colors don't match, white text is used on a yellow background and there's a midi song that's 12 seconds long repeating in the background over and god d*mn over. Also, the Personal Homepage Monkey likes to place pictures of it's family and self on it's site along with personal information including addresses and phone numbers.

There may be more... but this is the only one I can think of that may actually exist. The Hotgirlsnaked Monster or the FullscreenPopup Weasle may be others.

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It's a little off topic but it explains the basic idea of Artificial Inteligence pretty well (I think anyway).




posted on Aug, 22 2003 @ 08:47 PM
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I actually learned that the idea of robotics was invented in czekoslovakia. fascinating, really, i had always thought the Japanese came up with the idea, being the tech masters that they are.

Maybe it will be like in the matrix, well just be enslaved and hooked up to a big machine and stuff.

If all the robots look like arnie though, that will kick ass!



posted on Aug, 23 2003 @ 05:10 PM
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The idea of robots came from Czechovakia? Well, yes and no. The father of the concept was a Czech playwright, called Karel Kapek (sp?) and the title in English of his play was"Rossum's Universal Robot" (aka "RUR")

They made a movie of it.

But this type of "worker" is actually from a much older idea -- the golem of Hebrew mythology. Both are/were nonliving servants that were compelled to obey a master. Golems usually serve and protect, though if they are made wrongly they are a danger (they're a magical construct.)

I forget the details of the play (I did read it, and it's available online, Im sure as is the synopsis) but the basic theme is the undertrodden working class humans.

It was a good read.



posted on Aug, 26 2003 @ 10:15 AM
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has anyone seen the film Virtuosity with denzil washington and russel crowe?

the technology shown in that film means that if the technology is possible, man could eventually become virtually immortal!



posted on Aug, 26 2003 @ 10:29 AM
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i thought it was proven the only reason people die is because of a build up over time of co2 levels in your body this in turns kills cells off .. which is why you age...

i came up with the idea of having some sort of algi/nanobots in your blood which you inject at a young age 16-20 that feed on co2 levels in your body and cells, thus slowing down the ageing process dramatically



posted on Aug, 26 2003 @ 10:30 AM
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the only thing that would kill you if these bots/algi were 100% effecient would be cell dammage from the sun and radiation from the earth space ect ect...

probably be able to live for 100,000's of years though



posted on Aug, 26 2003 @ 12:45 PM
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i'm not denying that its possible but lets consider the following:

if the nanos eat the Carbon dioxide, HOW would they eat the CO2? would they eat the carbon and release the Ox? if they release the ox, then we would possibly benefit but...

what happens when they are full of carbon? would they leave us through the digestion system, making them disposable? i cant imagine that they would do us much good if they just stayed inside us. if they did leave us, we would need topping up, which means that drug firms would make a mint out of us, even more so than they are now

also if they were there just to pick up the co2, then what would they use for power? maybe they are two options here.1 if they divide the co2 into carbon and ox, then maybe the process would generate enough energy to fuel the nanos, or 2 they use our natural bio-electricity as fuel

as for the algae we would have to take into account the possible side effects, as i imagine it would be much harder to control than the nanos.

any way, i like your theory. if you look at it, they are also other tasks that the bots could be tasked with, such as reinforcements for natural antibodies, improved healing speed for wounds and such.

perhaps human endurance could reach a whole new level



posted on Aug, 26 2003 @ 01:05 PM
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www.newgrounds.com...

A society ruled by machines, the city experiances spectacular economic growth but at the cost of humanity's induvidualism.



posted on Aug, 26 2003 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by SilverDeath
www.newgrounds.com...

A society ruled by machines, the city experiances spectacular economic growth but at the cost of humanity's induvidualism.


Sorry but the link screwed up my screen.






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