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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 07:48 PM by philjwolf
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.. I would say it would be impossible to do.. he has thousands of people at some of his events.. that would be a bigger feat of magic,,, than the
illusions he performs.
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 07:56 PM by philjwolf
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I dont know how you can call him mediocre.. he is winning all the top awards for best illusions of our time.. what more do you want ?? and there
definitly not camera tricks... they are illusions.. not magic.. or paranormal.. just tricks.. and damn good ones too.. the best Ive seen.
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 08:08 PM by MorningStar8741
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Originally posted by philjwolf
reply to post by N. Tesla
I dont know how you can call him mediocre.. he is winning all the top awards for best illusions of our time.. what more do you want ?? and there
definitly not camera tricks... they are illusions.. not magic.. or paranormal.. just tricks.. and damn good ones too.. the best Ive seen.
Have you not read this thread? Please just go to youtube and search. If you do not like those revelations of camera trickery...well then the one that
made national tv a few weeks ago is good enough. Camera tricks all over that huge building demo stunt and it was revealed on no less than 4 shows just
that I saw the next day. How did you miss it?
Anyway...let's see..who did I vote for in illusionist of the year or whatever top awards you say he is winning all over??? Oh, I did not vote, I was
an election official making sure it was a real clean contest. Wait that is not it either. Oh...I know...it is all show business and he is the new
david blaine? The problem is that magicians that really do illusions have fallen by the way side in lieu of this camera trickery.
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 08:20 PM by philjwolf
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ive searched .. for these camera trick stories you mention.. where are they?? do you have any sources??
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 08:51 PM by philjwolf
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ahhh.. just as I thought.. no sources... news stories??? articles?? you tube are just people making guesses as to how he does it..
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 09:16 PM by MorningStar8741
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Originally posted by philjwolf
reply to post by MorningStar8741
ahhh.. just as I thought.. no sources... news stories??? articles?? you tube are just people making guesses as to how he does it..
I guess it is going to be hard to respond if I am neither reading this thread or on ATS or on my computer or home.
Are you trying to tell me that you did not see one show cover his implosion trickery? The 'live' cameras in the building that had very inconsistent
shots with each other? You did not see that or hear about it ALL OVER THE MSM?
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 09:18 PM by MorningStar8741
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 09:21 PM by MorningStar8741
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See, pre-recorded video....
The audience can only view him ON THE MONITORS...
The audience can only see the pre-recorded video of him running, while he just sneaks out. A real illusionist could have distracted us and gotten away
right before our eyes. Using pre-recorded footage and making the audience filter their view through it is just plain hoaky and if those are the new
rules of magic, boy am I going to be HUGE!
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 09:34 PM by InSpiteOf
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Originally posted by philjwolf
reply to post by MorningStar8741
.. I would say it would be impossible to do.. he has thousands of people at some of his events
Which events would those be?
His live show at the Luxor, "Believe" can seat a maximum of 205 people
His Luxor Light levitation definitely did not have "thousands of spectators"
So which events did he have such high turn out for exactly?
Im willing to wager that most of his events have relatively few spectators for the rather public appearance of the stunt.
Look we've been over this in the last 130 pages already. Come on, he's a rich illusionist, thats it.
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 09:41 PM by philjwolf
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yeah.. I watched that implosion illusion.. but I didnt hear about any news stories that said it was all faked.. with camera tricks??? in fact I cant
find any news articles about camera tricks being used in his act??
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 09:42 PM by MorningStar8741
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Perhaps you can watch the news story that I posted and get back to me on that.
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 09:53 PM by philjwolf
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she is saying that its pre-recorded after the time he goes thru the second door.. so all that time he was fighting with the lock at the trap door to
the roof.. was just taped footage. The argument is a pretty good one.. especially if he made claims that there would be no camera tricks involved.
you got me there..
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 10:26 PM by riggs2099
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Wow this is a long thread for something that has been explained by himself and others. He always says that he is a performer and nothing else...he
never claims to be anything else..paranormal or otherwise. He even goes so far to try to debunk those that claim to be real...so who is this huge
thread for...the believers that just don't want to hear the facts and have decided on what it is already. There is nothing paranormal about what he
does....he will tell you that personally but will not give his tricks away because it would ruin his shows for those that enjoy it as entertainment
and nothing more.
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 10:40 PM by Soulstone
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Anyone who thinks Criss Angel is real is living in denial, an imaginative child or psychotic. Case closed.
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 11:45 PM by MorningStar8741
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Originally posted by philjwolf
reply to post by MorningStar8741
she is saying that its pre-recorded after the time he goes thru the second door.. so all that time he was fighting with the lock at the trap door to
the roof.. was just taped footage. The argument is a pretty good one.. especially if he made claims that there would be no camera tricks involved.
you got me there..
Perhaps if you paid attention to what I said... I said this was done using pre-recorded footage. I only said it about 5 times though so I can
understand why you missed that. If that is not the camera trickery you want, then too bad. It is camera trickery. The stunt was done with the audience
watching old footage while he pulled off his little stunt. Now I have explained it twice, I hope you can get it this time. That is NOT an illusion,
that is a tv show.
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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 11:49 PM by MorningStar8741
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Originally posted by riggs2099
Wow this is a long thread for something that has been explained by himself and others. He always says that he is a performer and nothing else...he
never claims to be anything else..paranormal or otherwise. He even goes so far to try to debunk those that claim to be real...so who is this huge
thread for...the believers that just don't want to hear the facts and have decided on what it is already. There is nothing paranormal about what he
does....he will tell you that personally but will not give his tricks away because it would ruin his shows for those that enjoy it as entertainment
and nothing more.
You seem to miss the point completely. Whether or not he is really "magic" has not been the issue for some time. It is whether he is a grand
illusionist, or a goth geek with a lisp that got a tv show with a great crew that makes it appear as though - he is an illusionist. Go see live magic
show in Vegas. I know this is dated and nerdy but even a live Copperfield show. Then go watch people on tv, watching Chris - on a tv - pretending to
escape from a building. Then you will see that what is being argued here is whether this guy has any talent as a magician or is just pretty on camera.
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reply posted on 6-10-2008 @ 12:46 AM by ignorant_ape
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micheal moore won an oscar for ` best documentary ` < sic > , does that put US entertainment industry awards in perspective for you ?
as for mr angels camera tricks - start by readung this dammed thread
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reply posted on 6-10-2008 @ 01:40 AM by Shocka
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Criss Angel is a complete toool. He does shows for Las Vegas, he's a tourist attraction. He is a very good illusionist though, I'll give him that
much.
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reply posted on 6-10-2008 @ 08:07 PM by nataylor
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There's a great new show on My Network TV in the US called "Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed." They demonstrate and explain how a lot of
tricks are done. Looks like they'll be doing one on building-to-building levitation at some point (it's in the promos).
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reply posted on 6-10-2008 @ 09:55 PM by InSpiteOf
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thanks for the info:
Trailer
Just select the Magic series premier, the quick clip of the stunt in question is about 16 seconds in. Looks like we will get an expose on one of the
corner stones of some of the arguments.
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