posted on Sep, 1 2006 @ 12:46 AM
'quote: Originally posted by BlackGuardXIII I am an extreme sceptic. What I believe is based on my own experiences, not presupposition. The reason I
went to three Copperfield shows is that I could not get my head around what I saw there. I don't know what the method of his flying illusion is, but
I doubt that you are any more knowledgeable on the topic than I. You state matter-of-factly that he can't fly. Most would agree, but, your statement
does not make it so, it is no more than your view. I have no better explanation, as yet, for Angel, Blaine, and Copperfield flying, than that they are
doing so. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you are, despite your tone of self-assuredness. I look forward to the day that I am shown how it's done. You have
absolutely no idea how much I'd like to see that. I don't care if nobody agrees with me, thats not why I make my choices about what I believe.'
I appreciate your reply. May I recommend a Goggle search titled "Chris Angel levitation". You may come across a video where Mr. Angel himself
explains exactly how he levitates.
I'll explain this in a nutshell. He wears some baggy pants, almost always black in color. One show is connected to the pant leg. He places his legs
close together, slips one foot out and onto something in front of him, like a box. From behind it appears that both feet are level, he then raises
himself up on his barefoot (which has a black sock on it) and he appears to levitate. To end the trick he slips his foot back in his shoe and walks
away. You feel like a sucker after watching it.
'BG 13 quote:
I get your point. You are far more certain of your position than I. I have no presupposition to believe, as you charge. In fact, I am an extreme
sceptic. What I believe is based on my own experiences, not presupposition.'
When one claims they have no presupposition this then is their presupposition. In other words your presupposition is to be skeptical of everything.
You PRESUPPOSE all things in a skeptical manner.
I hear you ZA, but I will agree to disagree. I saw the Angel video, which does show how to fake a minor levitation. It doesn't explain his roof to
roof flight, or his levitations which are over head height. He also walked down the side of the Aladdin, and walked on water.... or faked it. I know
that illusionists use countless tricks to fake magic. But, imho, they also do things that no explanation can answer. As I said, I saw it live... and
it was amazing. Whether its high tech trickery, or some other ability as yet unknown to science, that these illusionists are using, either way it is
I don't quite get your last point, except that it seems to support and reiterate my point. I am a curious one, and ask lots of questions. If the
answers don't make sense to me, I look for others that do. Often the ones I like best are different than what most people accept as being the most
probably accurate one. I can't help that. I presuppose, yes, and I prejudge too. But... I also trust people even if what they tell me sounds
beyond belief, until and unless I find reason to distrust them. So I am a trusting skeptic who always asks when he doesn't quite get what is being
conveyed to him. If you feel they can't fly, thats great. I know you may be right. Until I hear a better explanation for what I've seen, though,
I will stick with my current conclusions. And I hope all people do the same. Thanks for your reply. One last query. Are you absolutely certain
they don't fly? If so, why are you so convinced?