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posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 08:05 AM
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Not as Regularly as he has done before. He probably will only do them Once in a While. He will still be able to levitate like Blaine on a daily Basis.

[edit on 23-3-2008 by darcon]




posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 09:14 AM
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I love when Penn and Teller out some of his tricks and make fun of him. It's cool they realy do show how some of his tricks are done. I dislike Criss Angel for some reason maybe his smugness. I just don't like him not because his tricks are dull just his attitude.



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 09:35 AM
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Yes i too think Criss is Smug as hell. I do not mean to judge him, but it is just the way he acts. Probably why i like Blaine more then him.



posted on Mar, 23 2008 @ 09:39 AM
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I thought the walk up the wall move was pretty crazy, more so then most of his stunts.



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 07:02 AM
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So, what your saying is, you believe CA, havking lost a number of members in his GE, will only be able to do the balducci levitation at will, and not his high levitations?

Interesting extrapolation.



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 07:11 AM
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it is futile to even attempt a discussion on ` how many invisible friends mr angel has ` the believers can just pull numbers out of ther A....... err hat

if mr angel preformed a " high levitation " stunt tommorow - the believers would hand wave a new invisible friends " explaination "

the believers are making up the rules for invisible freinds on the hoof - what ever happens they have an answer



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 07:49 AM
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He might still be able to do his high levitations, but he will not do them as frequently as before, and probably not as high as before either, but he probably will still be able to levitate higher then Blaine. Blaine's GE only has 70, Angel's used to 1900, but now he only has 1000. It explains why Criss angels show was much better then Blaine's, i really do like Blaine better, but the stuff angel was doing, just blew Davids stuff out of the water.

So if any of you watch his show, let us know if their s any change in his so called "tricks".

Let me ask the people something, Has anyone ever been to Criss angel's show, and if so were you paid off?

[edit on 24-3-2008 by darcon]



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 07:51 AM
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Great name by the way, really suites you.



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by darcon
It explains why Criss angels show was much better then Blaine's,


Ya, I guess thats one explanation. But the more plausible one is the fact that Criss Angel made 4 million dollars in 14 months with the original mind freak in 2001, and when you factor in the tours he does, the merchandizing, and whatever other economic factors im forgetting, CA makes a hell of a lot more than blaine.


In 2001 he produced Criss Angel Mindfreak, a bona fide off-Broadway hit, investing $300,000 (borrowed against his mother's house) and reaping $4 million in 14 months.Later he landed appearances on the ABC Family channel, TBS in Japan, MTV, Discovery Channel and Sci Fi Channel, with most gigs paying him $300,000 to $450,000 in production fees.

Next spring he may take a three-month tour of Asia expected to gross $3 million. Also in the works: magic tricks, DVDs, brand sponsorships, speaking engagements, a U.S. tour and a standing gig at a Las Vegas casino. Angel makes $1.5 million a year, and his handlers dream of surpassing the $57 million a year earned by David Copperfield. "The show gives me built-in marketing. Without money to reinvest, I can't make more art," Angel says. And more art means more money.


Source



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 08:32 AM
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That explains why he does way better so called "Tricks" then Blaine?

I am going to quote something on PR's Signature,

"If Criss Angel is only an illusionist - with no Gift of Chi-Telekinesis - who uses paid-off witnesses and film editing, then how come no one else on the entire planet is doing high levitations in the open air like he does?
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[edit on 24-3-2008 by darcon]



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by darcon
That explains why he does way better so called "Tricks" then Blaine?


Yes, economics is one factor in the overall picture. CA has the budget to produce massive illusions.

Why has no one duplicated his tricks? We've been over this a number of times, and there are a lot of reasons why. Some of them include but are not limited to:

1) Intellectual property rights: All illusions, whether created by the magician or someone else are subjected to patent control. Anyone wishing to reproduce the trick, using the same mechanism, must talk to the patent owner, and if the owner decides to pass the trick on, they can work out the fee's.

2) Budget: Magic is very capital intensive, meaning, you need a significant amount of start-up cash to make it big, and a significant amount of cash (after you make it big) to stay on top. CA had a 300k start up fund (with thanks to his mom) and 4 million to help fund the rest. Most modern magicians lack the millions of dollars it costs to do those big illusions.



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 09:21 AM
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I tend to disagree, but as you know, it is a matter of opinions.



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 09:34 AM
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Well, what part do you tend to disagree with? That economics plays a factor in the marketing, construction, and preformance of the illusion?



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by InSpiteOf
2) Budget: Magic is very capital intensive, meaning, you need a significant amount of start-up cash to make it big, and a significant amount of cash (after you make it big) to stay on top. CA had a 300k start up fund (with thanks to his mom) and 4 million to help fund the rest. Most modern magicians lack the millions of dollars it costs to do those big illusions.


How did you find that tidbit? Nice find.


I know even modest tricks and illusions run into the 100's if not 1,000's of dollars. There is nothing cheap about magic when you start getting into professional or semi professional magic shows.



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 10:02 AM
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Forbes did a nice work-up on CA. The link is in an above post, but ill post it again in this one:

www.forbes.com...

And ya, your right. Anything that isnt slieght of hand or trick quarters and whatnot is very bloody expensive. In the high end card tricks cost a big wad of cash. The entire industry is capital intensive, and understandably so. The more expensive the trick, the less likely some sucker off the street is going to buy it and expose it for what it is. Quite brilliant marketing, if you ask me.



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 01:28 PM
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all of it, you know my opinion, i know yours.



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 01:46 PM
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I think thats a bit narrow minded, dont you?

We know CA does illusions
We know CA is the highest paid Illusionist
We know he has a team of developers and engineers

With these factors in mind, is it really hard to believe there is an economic bottom-line to everything he does?

[edit on 24-3-2008 by InSpiteOf]



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 01:53 PM
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Not really, like i said it is my opinion.



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 01:55 PM
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It really amazes, and honestly, upsets me how easily some people can be deceived.



posted on Mar, 24 2008 @ 01:58 PM
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So, your opinion will not be changed; Regardless of whatever information is presented to you?

I guess, your mind was made up for you then...



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