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Cuba When Castro Dies?

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posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 10:08 AM
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Castro dies, all the Cubans leave Cuba for Miami. Island becomes vacant, Walt Disney buys the land and opens up a huge resort.

When all the Cubans are in Miami, then the southern half of FL will loose its statehood due to corruption and no income from tourism is generated because no one wants to go there anymore. Ohhhh I'm sorry that's happening already




posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 10:09 AM
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I find it rather disturbing how people are talking about changing a sovereign nation into a "vacation spot" like it was before. Thats the one theme that keeps on popping up through out this thread. People saying how once Castro dies America will build a bunch of resorts and casinos and turn Cuba into an American friendly tourist paradise. If thats the best we can offer Cuba as Americans then they were right to kick us out.



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by Tinkleflower
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I was wondering the exact same thing last night. People in the States seem to think that Cuba's tourist industry is pitiful. I can assure you that it's thriving without US help.
Yes, but its confined to a few beaches, staffed only to swindle the American buck. Just stay where you are, if you venture outside the area, it will look like one huge war zone.
Food is hard to come by, and forget about shopping in Old Havana for something good to bring back home.... A Revlon lipstick will get you $100 pesos over there, if you happen to find anyone with pesos.
Life sucks there, beleive me.
I'd advise to stay away from there unless you want Castro's pockets lined with the American dollar



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 10:17 AM
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Point taken DG, I was pointing out the propaganda that's spread about Cuba. They DO have a thriving tourism industry.

BTW, your post is a little off. Quotes not correct. This isn't a slam but it's got me saying what you did.



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 10:20 AM
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I'm entitled to a mistake now and then...thanks for pointing it out. I'd undo it if i could- So sorry i irritated you....



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 10:23 AM
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And the huge tourism that you claim Cuba has is only and exactly as i quoted above. I'd hate to go to Egypt and be confined to some hotel and some beach, wouldnt you?



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
I'm entitled to a mistake now and then...thanks for pointing it out. I'd undo it if i could- So sorry i irritated you....


No irritation here, it might confuse some though.



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 10:29 AM
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Here is an interesting article on how Cuba is now asking some foriegn investors to leave.



HAVANA - (KRT) - In a further sign of economic retrenchment, Cuban officials have closed scores of foreign businesses that were welcomed here a decade ago to bail out the nation's faltering economy.


Cuba asking foreign companies to leave island

I bet this trend will reverse when Casto kicks the bucket.



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 10:29 AM
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My parents were married here- It is now one of Castro's rally places.
My point is, there's nothing for a tourist to see or to buy or to eat OUTSIDE those lovely tourist areas.



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
And the huge tourism that you claim Cuba has is only and exactly as i quoted above. I'd hate to go to Egypt and be confined to some hotel and some beach, wouldnt you?


That's not true DG. I know people who have gone there and visited the island thoroughly - even choosing not to stay at a resort and making arrangements with the locals' equivalent of private B&B's island.

Cuba is a huge destination for Canadians. Also, didn't they switch to the euro recently?



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 10:36 AM
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I wont argue the point any further. MY Cuban relatives have no food- everyone lacks everything. THERE IS NO PLACE TO GO EAT. There is nothing but horrible poverty and old crap everywhere you look. My mother took the trip recently and all she could do was cry when she came back.

I wanted to give you a "real" eye view of the real thing. You can disregard it if you'd like. One thing i do have to say, medicine is available free to anyone in need. Anyone who ever went to the "Old " Cuba can verify what i say. I betcha those who visit Cuba now dont know the difference between the old and the new Cuba. They have nothing to compare it to.



[edit on 21-7-2005 by dgtempe]



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
I wont argue the point any further. MY Cuban relatives have no food- everyone lacks everything. THERE IS NO PLACE TO GO EAT. There is nothing but horrible poverty and old crap everywhere you look. My mother took the trip recently and all she could do was cry when she came back.

I wanted to give you a "real" eye view of the real thing. You can disregard it if you'd like. One thing i do have to say, medicine is available free to anyone in need. Anyone who ever went to the "Old " Cuba can verify what i say. I betcha those who visit Cuba now dont know the difference between the old and the new Cuba. They have nothing to compare it to.



[edit on 21-7-2005 by dgtempe]




It's too bad all of your fellow country men in Miami are turning a blind eye to it all and are not doing anything to oust the Beard. Instead they rather just make a new Cuba in Miami.



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 12:13 PM
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Yes, but its confined to a few beaches, staffed only to swindle the American buck. Just stay where you are, if you venture outside the area, it will look like one huge war zone.
Food is hard to come by, and forget about shopping in Old Havana for something good to bring back home.... A Revlon lipstick will get you $100 pesos over there, if you happen to find anyone with pesos.
Life sucks there, beleive me.
I'd advise to stay away from there unless you want Castro's pockets lined with the American dollar


Have you ever been to Cuba? I have...many many times, and I can tell you, the the tourist industry in Cuba is thriving, and thousands upon thousands of Canadians and europeans go there every year. We always head off the resort to visit small towns and have never had a problem. All the people are very welcoming and very friendly. More so than I have ever experienced anywhere in the United States.

I really hope Cuba doesn't become Americanized...It would totally ruin it.



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 12:27 PM
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OMG- ok, i will tell you again:

Lots of people visit and vacation in Cuba. Yes. HOWEVER, if they want luxury and food, they have to stay at one of the few resorts Castro has designated for this purpose. To get your money. To travel freely through Cuba, you best bring your own canned food. Food will be a problem, unless you get extremely lucky. My point is: Only those places designated as "resort" places have the food and the modern conveniences we are all used to. The rest sucks. Beleive it or not.

I'm gone. Over and out



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 12:43 PM
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I have lived in Florida for many years, most of my life, and I can tell you that Miami is called 'Little Cuba".
That is because mostly Cubans live there and I think that the Cuban people would be so happy to have the freedoms and food and shelter like we do.
These people have so much to offer our country, not just tourism.
They are very talented artists there and I've seen some of their work on the internet.
Their culture is so rich and beautiful.
I hope I will see the day when they are all free and we can share what we have with them.



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 01:16 PM
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I thought that Castro already made it clear that upon his death, his younger brother would take his place? Does anyone know about Castro having a brother, or am I just mistaken?

As for an earlier post about the US not being "allowed" to invade Cuba, I assume you're referring to the deal brokered to end the Cuban Missile Crisis. Basically, we agreed to remove our nukes from Turkey and to not invade Cuba in exchange for the USSR removing its nukes from Cuba. I'm not sure if this was a gentlemens' agreement or if it was actually put in writing. I'm more inclined to believe the former than the latter, as Kennedy didn't want the world to think he folded by removing nukes from Turkey (which didn't happen until 6 months after the agreement).

That being said, if the agreement was in writing, the US could declare it null and void just as we did with the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty that Bush recently backed out of. We could simply say that the deal was made with two governments which are no longer in existence, the Soviets and Castro (since he'd be dead), therefore the agreement would no longer be valid. Not that it'd even matter. If we invaded Cuba then what's gonna happen? We gonna get sued? LOL

But back to my original point... I'm fairly sure Castro has a younger brother and that he is next in line to take the "throne" so to speak. I have always wondered why the US is so tough on Cuba compared to other Communist governments. There is without a doubt a lot of things that are being kept from the public in regards to this feud. Some things we may never know, and that go back some 50 years now. Some people say that the plan drawn up under direction of then Attorney General Robert Kennedy to assassinate Fidel Castro were thrown on the shelf, and eventually used by the CIA to assassinate Kennedy instead. But, of course, that wouldn't be any reason to give Castro the cold shoulder for 50 years.

I also know that Kennedy sent a trusted reporter to Cuba to open up some back channel dialogue. There was a chance for peace with Cuba there, and Castro was interested. Of course, this all went down the tubes when Kennedy was killed. Could his work to make peace with Castro have been the nails in his coffin? But I don't want to turn this into the 9,999,999,999 Kennedy Assassination thread on here!



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 02:08 PM
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He has a brother. Raul Castro. Another psycho.



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 04:40 PM
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Then it's Raul that is appointed to take the reigns. Our only hope for regime change is if this Castro isn't beloved by his people like Fidel is. Of course we could always force regime change militarily, but that would never happen, IMO.



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 04:42 PM
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Castro is only beloved by those Cubans who do not know better.



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 05:19 PM
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I ask again Dgtempe, have you ever been there? I think you have to experience something yourself before you judge it. I'm not saying Castro is good, I'm just saying Americanizing the country would not be good.

And I'll continue to travel to Cuba, stay OFF resorts, eat well, make friends, and have fun.



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