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Probably The Only Way You'll Ever Get Into Groom Lake (Legally)


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Topic started on 20-7-2005 @ 11:38 AM by GodAtum


AVIATION FLIGHT ATTENDANTS EG&G

Must be a high school graduate, or equivalent. Must present a neat, professional appearance and be in good health. Must be able to demonstrate good public speaking skills. Must pass Company administered jet aircraft Emergency Training and Initial Flight Attendant Training, as well as ongoing Flight Attendant certification requirements as mandated by company policy and FAA requirements. Work is performed in both a field (in occasional extreme weather conditions) and an office environment and the position requires walking, bending, stooping, climbing stairs, and lifting up to 40 pounds, with occasional overnight support as required. Must be able to manipulate computer keyboards and view and interpret computer displays

Must be able to obtain and hold a TS/SSBI security clearance.

DESIRED QUALIFICATIONS:

Current Secret, or higher level, security clearance. Two years experience as a Flight Attendant with training in any type of Jet aircraft. Any medical or First Aid training, CPR certification.

www.urs.apply2jobs.com...

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reply posted on 20-7-2005 @ 11:42 AM by Contrabass


That's interesting...



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reply posted on 22-7-2005 @ 01:00 PM by tombiebiello


Maybe I should become a flight attendant.



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reply posted on 23-7-2005 @ 08:34 AM by JIMC5499


They will probably never let you off of the plane. As I recall from the Discovery Channel documentary the Janet aircraft have no cabin windows. The reason for the security clearence is just in case someone talks in their sleep during the flight.



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reply posted on 23-7-2005 @ 02:07 PM by GodAtum


I was going to ask why the flight attendants need security clearance. Thanks for clearing that up JIMC5499.

Also, have you got a link to that documentry?

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reply posted on 23-7-2005 @ 03:02 PM by JIMC5499


Hey! I'm just guessing, but I think that I am on the right track. I figure between who you might see and what you might accidently hear would be the reason for the clearence. I just remembered something else. I recall reading that someone who does not have a clearence can't be prosecuted for diseminating classified information. You have to be aware that the information has a security classification before you can commit a crime by divulging it. If anyone knows more I'd like to hear about it.



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reply posted on 3-8-2005 @ 05:49 PM by JackSeprish


I am a flight attendant. It's very difficult for me to believe that half of the people I fly with clear the BG check. Hey, that's just me.

A very cool insiders flight attendant movie (that was written and produced by one) is worth checking out if you are interested in aviation/flight attendants/pilots. It was made outside the studio system so it's actuall pretty honest about the industry.
www.theaviarymovie.com



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reply posted on 3-8-2005 @ 06:20 PM by ArtemisFowl


could always use the google map thingy
and unveil everything just like that guy who unveiled area51 just a suggestion



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reply posted on 4-8-2005 @ 03:27 AM by AussieNutter


Artemis, can you calrify that statement?



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reply posted on 4-8-2005 @ 03:53 AM by Figher Master FIN


Ok, but why do you need the medic skills...

PS:I love medics, they are so cool...



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reply posted on 4-8-2005 @ 03:59 AM by The Vagabond


Rumor has it that curiousity killed a cat once, although my own research indicates that cars, young children with firecrackers, and the mexican restraunt at the corner of 5th and Boulder are statistically much more likely culprits.

But anyway, if you feel like you've pretty much done everything you want to do in this life and are prepared to be hanged as a spy, I suppose you MIGHT be able to do it with model aircraft and cameras, if you had a setup where you could use several aircraft to relay controls foreward front outside of their perimeter. I sort of wonder if they can actually shoot down something that small, and one has to wonder if they've ever considered the need to jam radio control frequencies in their area.

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reply posted on 4-8-2005 @ 06:53 AM by JIMC5499



Originally posted by The Vagabond
I suppose you MIGHT be able to do it with model aircraft and cameras, if you had a setup where you could use several aircraft to relay controls foreward front outside of their perimeter. I sort of wonder if they can actually shoot down something that small, and one has to wonder if they've ever considered the need to jam radio control frequencies in their area.

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I think that you might be further ahead to use some small R/C ground vehicles. Something flying around out there might be spotted to easily or crash into what ever it is that they have flying around. I wonder how hard it would be to use an iPod as a video recording device? As far as radio transmissions being monitored I would say that it definite that you will be discovered unless you use burst transmissions. You can transmit to control the vehicle with no problem, but the vehicles transmissions back would be detected. I thought of using a cell phone as the R/C transmitter but the reciever on the vehicle would be detected. Hmmm a stealth R/C land vehicle might be fun to design.



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reply posted on 4-8-2005 @ 07:45 AM by The Vagabond


Have you seen True Lies? Could always pull the pizza man gag and have a heart attack in front of the guards at the gate. All you'd see is the infirmiry, and I'm sure when they found out that you'd faked it they'd give you a good reason to be in the infirmiry, but again, you'd be in Groom Lake.



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reply posted on 4-8-2005 @ 09:14 AM by JIMC5499



Originally posted by The Vagabond
Have you seen True Lies? Could always pull the pizza man gag and have a heart attack in front of the guards at the gate. All you'd see is the infirmiry, and I'm sure when they found out that you'd faked it they'd give you a good reason to be in the infirmiry, but again, you'd be in Groom Lake.


I think that was in the movie Eraser not True Lies. I started to think about an R/C land vehicle and decided that it would be easier to land one on Mars than to try to get into Groom Lake.



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reply posted on 4-8-2005 @ 09:40 AM by xmaddness


You could always use a gps device to control the RC car/truck. Use a preprogrammed path, record along the way, at the end of the cycle go back to an outside source, and burst transmit all the information.



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reply posted on 4-8-2005 @ 10:37 AM by JIMC5499



Originally posted by xmaddness
You could always use a gps device to control the RC car/truck. Use a preprogrammed path, record along the way, at the end of the cycle go back to an outside source, and burst transmit all the information.


I actuall thought about doing just that but one small problem. How do you get the GPS coordinates necessary to plot the waypoints for the vehicle? I thought about starting a thread about the design of such a vehicle, but I don't know in what forum do I place it?



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reply posted on 5-8-2005 @ 10:55 AM by ghost



Originally posted by The Vagabond
Have you seen True Lies? Could always pull the pizza man gag and have a heart attack in front of the guards at the gate. All you'd see is the infirmiry, and I'm sure when they found out that you'd faked it they'd give you a good reason to be in the infirmiry, but again, you'd be in Groom Lake.


First off, the movie was Eraser,not True Lies, I have both of them! Second, he was faking an Epileptic Seizure. Third, they don't allow uncleared people that far into the Nellis Range. Forth, once the Staff MD at Nellis realises you were faking, you need the infirmiry. Last, once the military is done with you, you'll have you own privite room at Levinsworth, KS.

Tim

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reply posted on 5-8-2005 @ 11:25 AM by JIMC5499



Originally posted by ghost
Last, once the military is done with you, you'll have you own privite room at Levinsworth, KS.

Tim

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With free medical care and cable TV.



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reply posted on 8-8-2005 @ 12:17 AM by Winchester Ranger T


Great find by GodAtum.

I always imagined that the flight crew were ex-military and that the workers heading out to Groom Lake had their in flight beverage served by an ex-Marine drill sergeant.

"DO YOU REQUIRE ICE IN YOUR COKE MAGGOT !!!"



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reply posted on 8-8-2005 @ 01:29 AM by The Vagabond



Originally posted by ghost
Forth, once the Staff MD at Nellis realises you were faking, you need the infirmiry.


Isn't that exactly what I said?
Truth be told it's all a big waste of time anyway. What would you really hope to see? An alien autopsy being performed? A captured UFO?
Odds are you'd just see aircraft, probably aircraft that don't even look -that- special. Sure it may have god knows what on it- airborne laser, VSTOL capable of supersonic, or even something more exotic, but how much of that do you think is going to blatantly obvious just looking at it to somebody who doesn't understand the technology and can't tell what certain external features may indicate?



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