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India should be with China rather Than America

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posted on Jul, 20 2005 @ 02:54 AM
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This post is for two people viz stealth spy and chinawhite.These 2 users fight everyday that who is the better country.Although China backstabbed India in 1962 but it would be totally life threatining for india to ally with bush who is a puppet for the illuminati and wants a fascist NWO.For more info on that watch this 3hr documentary by alex jones
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Remember stealth spy that China and Russia supports India's entry for permanent U.N membership while U.S supports Japan.So U.S fails to recognise 1 billion+ people and recongnises some 20-60 million people.Times have changed,the U.S we once knew is finished.Bush and his minions want WW3,WANT NWO.India should ally with China rather then U.S.I know any americans would feel that this is propaganda but Americans should wake up and realise that their govt has been covertly hijacked by these globalist and they should take bakc thier govt.And stealth spy and china white you should stop your hatred .Remeber that Russia+China+India can really defeat the NWO.All is required is that China to be a democracy.
TIs all about reptilians imo.The reptilians contorl the illuminati and the illuminati contorls the world govts.T was alwyas about aliens and these reptilians want NWO

[edit on 20-7-2005 by warthog911]




posted on Jul, 20 2005 @ 02:56 AM
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I think it's pretty sad that you want to base the future of a country based on an Alex Jones fakeumentary... :shk:



posted on Jul, 20 2005 @ 03:00 AM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77
I think it's pretty sad that you want to base the future of a country based on an Alex Jones fakeumentary... :shk:


Well have you relly watched the documentary?.Americans are being mind controlled.Why doesnt the media talk about the downing street memo?.Bush is a puppet for NWO.He was behind 911 and blair and the queen is behind 7\7.DId you know that all of the presidents are form 2 royal family bloodlines.The American people should wake up.YOu dont want the the book "1984" to be a reality although it has already started.



posted on Jul, 20 2005 @ 04:05 AM
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I believe that all powers of the world should come together and make the world a better place. instead of taking sides.



posted on Jul, 20 2005 @ 04:07 AM
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Granted India is the largest democracy in the world, but I find it pretty hard to find the logic in why they would side with China on any issue. Both are armed to the teeth, boast a > than 1mil. man army, and both have serious issues with human rights.



posted on Jul, 20 2005 @ 06:17 AM
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Where's stealth spy and chinawhite on this one??


Naw.. It won't happen unless India is persuaded enough and china needs india enough..

I foresee a more choke china policy adopted by the US by trying to bring India on its side..



posted on Jul, 20 2005 @ 07:53 AM
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arent china and india still arguing about land mass called the himalayas?

i cant believe you would say that about indias relations. as if china's yoke would be any easier. if they were smart they would just stay neutral.



posted on Jul, 20 2005 @ 10:47 AM
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I think India is threading on thin ice to embrace America rather than staying with the long time friend and ally, the Russian.

The aren't many (two fingers will suffice) true international friend that will stick with India like the Russian does

Many US media are (a little to quickly, as instructed by Whitehouse I suppose) using the China containment smokescreen to describe the latest buddy-buddy development of the India x US

I see it otherwise... the US is trying to steal friend from the Russian, this is to break up the Russian-India-China triangle that centered on the Russia

There aren't many history book or foreign news reporting in India I suppose... they forgot Russian is their only true friend... they didn't see that US won't think for another second to slap sanction on any country on this planet that contradicting their, US, "national interest".

I wish India all the Best...


[edit on 20-7-2005 by betaiso]



posted on Jul, 20 2005 @ 01:47 PM
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Well I’d love to admit that India is on the way to SCO - Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, which includes Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyz Republic, Kazakhstan, The People’s Republic of China and the Russian Federation.

In Astana, July 05, 2005 the SCO has held a summit which resulted in adopting a declaration concerning different aspects of nowadays situation in the world. The summit was also attended by president of Mongolia Nambaryn Enhbayar, first vice president of Iran Mohammad Reza Aref, prime minister of Pakistan Shaukat Aziz, minister of foreign affairs of India Natvar Singh and SCO secretary-general Zhang Deguang.

“The heads of the member states express their confidence that giving Pakistan, Iran and India observer status in the SCO will expand the Organisation’s opportunities in terms of developing multilateral and mutually beneficial cooperation in various directions.”

So as we see, there’s no need to talk about America in this case, they’re already moving to the right direction.

www.sectsco.org...



posted on Jul, 20 2005 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by warthog911
This post is for two people viz stealth spy and chinawhite.These 2 users fight everyday that who is the better country.Although China backstabbed India in 1962 but it would be totally life threatining for india to ally with bush who is a puppet for the illuminati and wants a fascist NWO.

Since there is no NWO nor Illuminati then there should be nothin restricting india from closely allying with the United States.



Remember stealth spy that China and Russia supports India's entry for permanent U.N membership while U.S supports Japan.So U.S fails to recognise 1 billion+ people and recongnises some 20-60 million people.

When did the US reject a spot for india? Japan is a very close ally of the US, so why shouldn't the US make a bid for it, especially if india already has russia and china supporting it? Not to mention that the socialists are in power in india now anyway, nor that they're a nation that's engaging in a nuclear arms race with a neighbhor that its fought more than one war with recently???

Times have changed,the U.S we once knew is finished.Bush and his minions want WW3,WANT NWO.India should ally with China rather then U.S.I know any americans would feel that this is propaganda but Americans should wake up and realise that their govt has been covertly hijacked by these globalist
It would be fallacy to pretend that only the US is involved in Globalism. UN Security Council seats and international agreements btween china india and russia are globalism.


And stealth spy and china white you should stop your hatred .




Remeber that Russia+China+India can really defeat the NWO.

There is no NWO


All is required is that China to be a democracy.

Since china is ruled under a communist one part dictatorship that has absolute control of the military and wealth, that doesn't look likely, to say the least.

betaiso
I think India is threading on thin ice to embrace America rather than staying with the long time friend and ally, the Russian.

Russia isn't their traditional ally, the Soviety Union was. The Soviets were involved with India to advance socialism and communism, whereas the US had icy relations with india because of their socialism and communism. Now that its obvious that india isn't going to go outright communist, and that even communist china is engaging in globalism and a market economy, the US can afford to have closer relations with india. Also, look at where the economies are and the peoples are. The money and population is circling between india and the US, with service industries and technology companies outsourcing and basing in india and indians moving from asia into the United States, not russia, not china.

the US is trying to steal friend from the Russian, this is to break up the Russian-India-China triangle that centered on the Russia

That too would be a reasonable tactic and probably does have something to do with it all. But one cannot ignore the movement of capital and people.

they didn't see that US won't think for another second to slap sanction on any country on this planet that contradicting their, US, "national interest".

What countries has the US placed international sanctions on for 'disgreeing' with them?
During the cold war the internationalist communist revolution was fought with a policy of contaiment, but it would be facile to say that that was merely an ideological disagreement.

nordix
So as we see, there’s no need to talk about America in this case, they’re already moving to the right direction.

Based on being given 'observer' status in a globalist economic multi-lateral organization???? There are no sides in globalism, its all about participiating in a global economy and global development. Economy nad Developement requires the heavy involvement of the United States. Any more 'torwards' russia by entering into a globalist organization ultimately only brings india closer to the US, since in the end the organization is about broading economic ties between all countries. Its a 'russia centered' organization in a system that the US has had nearly a 60 year head start on.



posted on Jul, 20 2005 @ 02:10 PM
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The idea of a 'new superpower' (ie a combined Russia, China and India) is funny to say the least.

IMO at the root of this latest bout of 'geo-political' nonsense is simply the fact that some in the USA will attempt any mental gymnastics, no matter how ridiculous, to try and justify their absurd and grotesquely expensive 'one horse' arms race.

China and India are not close friends, nor are they likely to be any time soon, they have a long history of regional emnity (why do you think India and Pakistan are both with each other having nuclear weapons now, hmmm?).



posted on Jul, 20 2005 @ 02:21 PM
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But haven't you thought that it's the right way to solve all conflicts that countries might have? Today Russia's and China's relationship has greatly improved. It's a fact.



What countries has the US placed international sanctions on for 'disgreeing' with them?

You don't remember the Jackson Vanik Amendment which is still put unto Russia and Ukraine, despite of the fact that now the only problem you can face when moving out of those countries is the lack of money. So why wouldn't USA cancel this law? Cause they just simply don't want to.



posted on Jul, 20 2005 @ 04:15 PM
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India, is in the Asian continent rite? China is the Asian Continent rite? They are both asian countries>? rite? i think United States, are covertly trying to influence that region as usual.,. trying to stop a counterbalance to another superpower rising. It's not fair for them to remain the lone superpower.. Let's see some balance in the scale.s



posted on Jul, 20 2005 @ 04:39 PM
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There is no NWO.

The US and Buxh are not the evil pawn of some higher power.

India is allying with the US because we have a lot in common, unlike China and India.

Say hello to the new super alliagnce of the 21st century:

US, UK, Australia, India, and Japan. I'd say it will be in full force by 2030.



posted on Jul, 20 2005 @ 04:57 PM
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I'm gonna go with AMM on this one. Your supporting arguments are ridiculous, warthog911. NWO? Lizardmen?

And AMM...are you forgetting the EU in your alliance list?



posted on Jul, 21 2005 @ 04:33 AM
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Originally posted by warthog911
Although China backstabbed India in 1962
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It was India backstabbing China when it accomodated those monks.



posted on Jul, 22 2005 @ 02:07 AM
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And what would you have rather have us do with those "monks" you so eagerly desired for nefarious means??



posted on Jul, 22 2005 @ 02:11 AM
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Let me make it clear that India is not "allying with america AGAINST anyone.. not cornering china and definitely not forgetting Russia..

Russia still holds much more importance to India than the US...



posted on Jul, 22 2005 @ 06:33 AM
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the Title of this thread is all wrong, it should read: India should be with Russia rather Than America

India will never forge any "real" bilateral relationship with China

Russia = 0, America = 1


[edit on 22-7-2005 by betaiso]



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