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Seems that most westerners are still misreading China

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posted on Jul, 22 2005 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by HenryXY
Busy on a project these days....Don't have time to join the discussion.







[edit on 2005-7-22 by wecomeinpeace]




posted on Jul, 22 2005 @ 09:44 AM
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In an internet period, do you still think it is possible to control everything in the internet even with control policy or firewall filtters?
Obviously Chinese people know the big shortcomings of CCP, like corruptions(Everyyear hundreds or thousands of CCP officer have been sentenced to death and executed because of corruptions, there should be many of them hidding everywhere), poverty( especially in the west part and rural area), environment problems, job marketing problem.

Since you still believe the current Chinese doesn't realise above things, just regard them as a group of braindwashed and misery people. It's up to you.

Btw, there are around 70million to 100 million CCP memebers in China. If CCP really consider here as a good place for propaganda, surely the server will crash in a short time...Just kidding...

Originally posted by NotheRaGe
It is obvious that we are now debating with a band of communist supporters, who are likely speaking from their contaminated minds, polluted with the propaganda by CCP, gong fei (communist robbers).

I dun understand why a number of "mind-controlled" chinese cannot wake up from these deceptions when they are granted the ability to think for themselves. Most of the chinese, meanwhile, are afraid to stand up. Brave souls, the lion hearted ones, are willing to sacrifice their lives in order for the free world to learn of their plight, for a China that is rid of these power hungry thugs.

I'm an overseas chinese and i feel proud as a descendant of chinese, not a communist, not a traitor who help the soviets to expand their sphere of influence.
I've been to PRC for many times, the most recent one been a few months ago, and i muz disagree that the people are pleased with the communists. Corruption is everywhere according to my tour guide, and the people are certainly not cared for by CCP. Those who are pleased with the regime are most probably familes of those officials who are siphoning off the people's money right now.

Agent Henry taking a break? Or in the headquaters discussing with others agents what to write in ATS next?
Juz jokin!



posted on Jul, 22 2005 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by HenryXY
Everyyear hundreds or thousands of CCP officer have been sentenced to death and executed because of corruptions, there should be many of them hidding everywhere


This is really brutal huh! Maybe we should discuss why these officials are still doin it even though they know the consequence. Something muz be fishy!

Opps i forgot this is nothing to CCP as the communists and followers have no respect for human lives. Not to forgot the number of poor peasants and other civilians who died due to famine(why? their pathetic lifes are of no value to CCP) and purges!





[edit on 22-7-2005 by NotheRaGe]

[edit on 22-7-2005 by NotheRaGe]



posted on Jul, 22 2005 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by NotheRaGe

Originally posted by HenryXY
Everyyear hundreds or thousands of CCP officer have been sentenced to death and executed because of corruptions, there should be many of them hidding everywhere


This is really brutal huh! Maybe we should discuss why these officials are still doin it even though they know the consequence. Something muz be fishy!

Opps i forgot this is nothing to CCP as the communists and followers have no respect for human lives. Not to mention the number of poor peasants and other civilians who died due to famine(why? their pathetic lifes are of no value to CCP) and purges!





[edit on 22-7-2005 by NotheRaGe]

[edit on 22-7-2005 by NotheRaGe]



posted on Jul, 22 2005 @ 10:29 AM
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Got one thing to say to you, joe...

ou're just upset because your little propaganda exercise has failed. Look back through the thread and see who it was that started acting ilke a dweeb in the first place when someone disagreed with him. Actually, I'm usually a nice guy, ask anyone on this forum, but you see sonny, the thing is that I and some others here know exactly what you, corner, bitterweb, Jerry_fd, and HenryXY have been sent here for. You're not going to get any free rides in this forum. People here are educated, come from all over the world, and know their history and their facts. If you don't like it, tough. Besides, you and your little gang will all disappear after this upset in US-China relations is over, so it doesn't matter anyway.



I should say again I am common people in China.I just express my feeling to you after I read your words whatever you like it.Yes,I will tell my domestic fellow people that at overseas there are such gangs who hate China and compile the falsity and rumor to people all over the world.They are all bad guys.The virtuous people,please open your eyes and discern the truth and falsity.



posted on Jul, 22 2005 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by joechino
Yes,I will tell my domestic fellow people that at overseas there are such gangs who hate China and compile the falsity and rumor to people all over the world.They are all bad guys.The virtuous people,please open your eyes and discern the truth and falsity.


You keep saying that we hate China, when it's very obvious to anyone reading this thread that we just don't like the CCP, and we hope for the Chinese people to be free from the monkey on their backs. If we hated China, we'd be happy to see the CCP continue to oppress the people and leech off the nation until kingdom come. You either can't get past your conditioning, or you are just doing your job, or both. Either way, no one is buying your story. You just keep repeating the same tripe over and over that we are all trying to deceive the world and poison people's minds against China. What a laugh.


"But China will rise again before long. The days of power of the communist regime in China are before long to be over. The inevitable tide of the celestial wisdom so deep within the soul of the Chinese people is nearing its time to flood again. The imaginary “enemies of China” the Chinese Communist regime tries to use to rally the patriotism of China’s people around it are not a real threat to China. The real threat is the barbaric communist regime itself and its un-Chinese inhuman ideology."

But hey, keep crying and trying to twist our words. You're bleeding heart routine ain't fooling anyone.


[edit on 2005-7-22 by wecomeinpeace]



posted on Jul, 22 2005 @ 12:58 PM
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Don't always think your regime is suitable for every other countries.
Look at Russia, the one that was LIBERATED by you western countries 15 years ago, what is now the situation there?

Btw, ShangHai should be a good city that can be compared with HongKong and NewYork

Originally posted by wecomeinpeace

Originally posted by joechino
Yes,I will tell my domestic fellow people that at overseas there are such gangs who hate China and compile the falsity and rumor to people all over the world.They are all bad guys.The virtuous people,please open your eyes and discern the truth and falsity.


You keep saying that we hate China, when it's very obvious to anyone reading this thread that we just don't like the CCP, and we hope for the Chinese people to be free from the monkey on their backs. If we hated China, we'd be happy to see the CCP continue to oppress the people and leech off the nation until kingdom come. You either can't get past your conditioning, or you are just doing your job, or both. Either way, no one is buying your story. You just keep repeating the same tripe over and over that we are all trying to deceive the world and poison people's minds against China. What a laugh.


"But China will rise again before long. The days of power of the communist regime in China are before long to be over. The inevitable tide of the celestial wisdom so deep within the soul of the Chinese people is nearing its time to flood again. The imaginary “enemies of China” the Chinese Communist regime tries to use to rally the patriotism of China’s people around it are not a real threat to China. The real threat is the barbaric communist regime itself and its un-Chinese inhuman ideology."

But hey, keep crying and trying to twist our words. You're bleeding heart routine ain't fooling anyone.


[edit on 2005-7-22 by wecomeinpeace]



posted on Jul, 22 2005 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by HenryXY
Don't always think your regime is suitable for every other countries.
Look at Russia, the one that was LIBERATED by you western countries 15 years ago, what is now the situation there?


LMFAO!!

And now, we see the true CCP colors starting to show through. Evil Western governments destroyed the Soviet Union and destroyed the glorious work of the people's communist revolution, eh? This just goes to show the distortion and lies that the CCP rams into the heads of party members. The Soviet Union collapsed from WITHIN, dude! You need to throw away those CCP history books and read up on some historical fact rather than fantasy. If you do, you will discover that the spark that started the flame in the USSR was called glasnost, i.e. political openness. Moscow relaxed it's control on the media, and because of this, the truth of the regime's corrupt activities started to come out. Due to this and other factors, annexed nations declared independence one after the other after the other, and the whole thing fell down like a house of cards.

Now that you've had a brief history lesson, you should understand why the CCP controls the media so tightly in China. Only evil fears the sunlight of truth. The CCP know that freedom of the press, freedom of information, and political transparency are death knells for corrupt communist regimes. And glasnost occurred at a time when the Internet didn't even exist. The CCP, as hard as they try, can never fully control the Internet. The only thing they could possibly do would be to shut it down completely, and that would cause riots and possibly spark an immediate revolution, so they can't do that either. They are terrified of truth. This is why they employ low ranking party members to frequent Chinese forums and attempt to manipulate thought, and to report dissent. And sometimes, they send them to English language forums too.
I truly think that the Internet will eventually be the source of the CCP's demise. Chinese citizens are starting to wake up in droves. Already 3 million+ have resigned from the party after reading the Nine Commentaries. It's simply a matter of time now...


[edit on 2005-7-22 by wecomeinpeace]



posted on Jul, 22 2005 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by wecomeinpeace

Originally posted by HenryXY
Don't always think your regime is suitable for every other countries.
Look at Russia, the one that was LIBERATED by you western countries 15 years ago, what is now the situation there?


LMFAO!!

And now, we see the true CCP colors starting to show through. Evil Western governments destroyed the Soviet Union and destroyed the glorious work of the people's communist revolution, eh? This just goes to show the distortion and lies that the CCP rams into the heads of party members. The Soviet Union collapsed from WITHIN, dude! You need to throw away those CCP history books and read up on some historical fact rather than fantasy. If you do, you will discover that the spark that started the flame in the USSR was called glasnost, i.e. political openness. Moscow relaxed it's control on the media, and because of this, the truth of the regime's corrupt activities started to come out. Due to this and other factors, Annexed nations declared independence one after the other after the other, and the whole thing fell down like a house of cards.

Now that you've had a brief history lesson, you should understand why the CCP controls the media so tightly in China. Only evil fears the sunlight of truth. The CCP know that freedom of the press, freedom of information, and political transparency are death knells for corrupt communist regimes. And glasnost occurred at a time when the Internet didn't even exist. The CCP, as hard as they try, can never fully control the Internet. The only thing they could possibly do would be to shut it down completely, and that would cause riots and possibly spark an immediate revolution, so they can't do that either. They are terrified of truth. This is why they employ low ranking party members to frequent Chinese forums and attempt to manipulate thought, and to report dissent. And sometimes, they send them to English language forums too.
I truly think that the Internet will eventually be the source of the CCP's demise. Chinese citizens are starting to wake up in droves. Already 3 million+ have resigned from the party after reading the Nine Commentaries. It's simply a matter of time now...


[edit on 2005-7-22 by wecomeinpeace]


[edit on 22-7-2005 by HenryXY]

[edit on 22-7-2005 by HenryXY]




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