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Genesis of an American Gestapo

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posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 08:23 AM
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"Tyrants have always some slight shade of virtue; they support the laws before destroying them."
Voltaire

"A dictatorship would be a heck-of a lot easier; as long as I'm dictator."
President George W. Bush

Tyranny has very few indispensable parts; a compliant media, that will regulate information to meet the goals of the state; a "rubber-stamp" Parliament that will endorse the policies of the supreme leader; a judiciary that will adjust the law to serve the requirements of the ruling body, a strong military to seize the wealth of weaker nations; and a security apparatus, that will eliminate any domestic threats to the system.



The formation of the new agency was presented as part of 74 recommendations made by the 9-11 Commission on Intelligence. Every member of the so-called "independent" panel was hand-picked by the Bush team and their proposals reflect the narrow interests of American elites. Bush loyalists and Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) members Lawrence Silberman and Charles Robb, (both of whom were directly involved in the 9-11 whitewash) chaired the committee, and provided the rationale for the dramatic changes to the existing system. Astonishingly, Bush was able to unilaterally create the National Security Service without congressional approval as part of his sweeping powers under the new anti-terror legislation.

The freshly minted National Security Service, which has been dubbed the New SS, will operate under the authority of former ambassador to Iraq, John Negroponte, whose involvement in overseeing the terrorist activities of death squads in Nicaragua will provide him with the necessary experience for his new task. Negroponte, the new Intelligence czar, will report directly to the President, who in turn will carefully monitor the violations of civil liberties that will naturally evolve from unsupervised investigations.

The National Security Service, which is an autonomous, domestic spy-agency, signals a tectonic shift in the political landscape. The genesis of the Police State marks the end of American democracy; the final wooden stake to the heart of privacy, security and personal liberty. Bush's meteoric rise to power has been accompanied by a breakdown of traditional safeguards at every juncture; leaving the system vulnerable to incalculable damage. The message to citizens is clear; all of the institutions upon which democratic societies depend (the executive, the Congress, the Judiciary, the media, the military, and law enforcement) have withered beneath the Bush onslaught and been reduced to rubble. The entire system has been corrupted from top to bottom. America is a gaunt, skeletal figure; rattling around in its cage, ready to be blown over by the first brisk wind. Democracy is dead.

Source:
Information Clearing House

Need any more Proof that America is Turning from a Democratic state into a Despotic State?

For some People these Tyranny still Looks like Democracy - while otheres see throught the Vast Net of Lies and Deceptions.

Even the Name of the Secret Police - the National Security Service; the NSS is dangerously close to the SchutzStaffel - SS. One of the several Parts of the German Nazi SS was also the Gestapo (GEheime STAatsPOlizei), the official secret police force of Nazi Germany.

Do you also see any Similarities?




posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 08:41 AM
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The differences between Hitler and Bush at this stage of their respective careers are quantitative rather than qualitative. Using two examples:

1) Division of the populace. Hitler used KrystalNacht - an up-front brutal orgy of destruction and murder, using Jews as the target. Bush is using homosexuals and non-fundamentalist-religion as the targets to divide the American culture. Not as flagrant, yet, as what Hitler did, but with the same goal: to stratify and divide the population.

2) Invasion of sovereign nations. Hitler invaded various sovereign nations under no pretenses other than domination and exploitation of the resources controlled by those nations. Bush is invading sovereign nations under the extremely thin guise of 'liberating' them, but with obvious overtones of domination and exploitation of the resources controlled by those nations.

There is little or no doubt that Hitler's excesses were more extreme. He openly used murder, secret detention, torture and invasion to accomplish his goals.

Bush (or probably more accurately his controllers) may in fact be the more dangerous, as subtler methods are being used. People are not yet being shot wholesale in the street, although secret detention and torture is inarguably on the rise. Bush and Co are using invasion, again under the pretense of 'liberation', as another strategy aimed at accomplishment of their ultimate goal.

Another interesting parallel is that at this stage of Hitler's career, a lot of the German people supported him without question.

Some Hitler quotes to consider...
-What good fortune for governments that the people do not think.

-Strength lies not in defence but in attack.

-Success is the sole earthly judge of right and wrong.

-The broad masses of a population are more amenable to the appeal of rhetoric than to any other force.

-The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one.

-The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.

-There is a road to freedom. Its milestones are Obedience, Endeavor, Honesty, Order, Cleanliness, Sobriety, Truthfulness, Sacrifice, and love of the Fatherland.

-Who says I am not under the special protection of God?



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 08:48 AM
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First up: I dont like Dubya at all.

But having said that...

#1 Nicely structered hate post Soul...

#2 The main and only point anybody needs to take from this post is this: In about 3 years, Dubya will be gone, no matter what. Nothing can stop that. So comparaing the USA to anything Natzi is ignorant.

#3 By that time, the 48% who actually voted for Bush (yes, 48%) will be so jaded by this mans terrible performance we will get somebody decent in the Whitehouse.



[edit on 18-7-2005 by skippytjc]



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 08:55 AM
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From a ATP Thread,

America 2005 is Germany 1930



1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes the media are directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media are indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Living Under Fasci$m



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by skippytjc
First up: I dont like Dubya at all.

Great! Join the Club!

Then Why are you so EAGER to Defened his Foreign Policies?



#1 Nicely structered hate post Soul...

Thanks.

I guess....



#2 The main and only point anybody needs to take from this post is this: In about 3 years, Dubya will be gone, no matter what. Nothing can stop that. So comparaing the USA to anything Natzi is ignorant.

Lets all HOPE that Really Happens and that we all Live to see the Future and what will happen in about 3 years Time

STILL - You can NOT Deny the Facts that USA Today is Dangerously Close to what Nazi Germany was.



#3 By that time, the 48% who actually voted for Bush (yes, 48%) will be so jaded by this mans terrible performance we will get somebody decent in the Whitehouse.

Again, I really Hope so....



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by Souljah


STILL - You can NOT Deny the Facts that USA Today is Dangerously Close to what Nazi Germany was.




No, it isnt. You see Soul, I am an average, law abiding citizen. I do nothing differently in my daily routine than I did long before 9/11. Not one of my liberties have been adversly effected. Actually, I havent noticed one single difference at all.

I go where I pelase, I say what I please, and so long as it doesnt infringe on others rights, I do what I please.

As terrible as Dubya is, comparing what he has done to America to Natzi Germany is silly and irresponsible rhetoric. Take it from me, an actual, real live American citizen living under Dubyas tenure - Things are just fine here, free as ever.

And you know what? Everybody I know feels the same way, and NOBODY I know is 100% happy with our President. No goose stepping in the streets, no banners or parades and chanting hail to anybody.

In other words, you and your post are dead wrong. Take that from the people who actually live here.



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by skippytjc
As terrible as Dubya is, comparing what he has done to America to Natzi Germany is silly and irresponsible rhetoric. Take it from me, an actual, real live American citizen living under Dubyas tenure - Things are just fine here, free as ever.

So - You got no Problem with:

- Illegal Invasions

- Corruptions at High Places in the Goverment

- Corruptions of Military Contractors

- Forming of Powerful Security Agencies

- Abuses at Prison Camps

- Overwhelming Importance of the Military Sector, with Records high Budget

- Overall Protection of Corporate Power

- Genesis of the Police State

Just to name a Few.

OK, so you are telling yourself "Only 3 Years Left" - but I am sure Bush is going to make these 3 years really LONG...

[edit on 18/7/05 by Souljah]



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 10:11 AM
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Souljah, I have been giving you too much credit. First up, by asking me if I am OK with those things are assuming I actually agree the USA has those problems.

#1 I never voted or wanted to go to Iraq. It’s Iran that should have been attacked.

#2 Name one government on the planet that doesn’t have corrupt politicians. The great thing about the USA is we have the ability to shed them every few years.

#3 Halliburton will get what’s coming to them, the ball is already rolling.

#4 Nothing wrong with powerful defense agencies. I approve of them, after all: Who else will battle the radical Islamic terrorists who are at siege against me and my family? They attacked us once already...

#5 What abuse at terrorist detention centers? Your definition of abuse is different than mine. I have no problem treating my nation’s enemies the way they treat us, and I have no issue treating a terrorist detainee however is needed to get the info we need. Heck, my preference would to have left them dead on the battle field.

#6 Importance in military and super high budget. Well, that’s how the world’s largest and most powerful nation needs to stay the worlds largest and most powerful. With radical Islamic terrorists salivating at the mouth to destroy us and kill Americans at every opportunity, how can we afford not to be this way?

#7 Corporate protection? Again, find me one nation in the world that doesn’t protect certain corporate interests. You can’t, because all nations do it. Hell, even communist China protects its private industries.

#8 Police state? Where? I don’t see it. That’s an inaccurate assumption on your part. I have yet to have a negative encounter with ANY agent of the law in all of my life. I can go about my business for days at a time and not see but a police car drive by from time to time or an officer standing directing traffic at a work site. What police state? Your OPINION regarding this couldn’t be any further from the truth. Heck, London has a bigger police presence than any city in the USA. We don’t even have a government controlled closed circuit camera system in place yet!!


So Soul, your assumptions are almost entirely wrong and are nothing but speculation.


The USA - The greatest country on the planet suffering from a TEMPORARY problem in the white house. Nothing more than that, and nothing that the American populace doesn’t see right through.


[edit on 18-7-2005 by skippytjc]



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by Souljah

Originally posted by skippytjc
As terrible as Dubya is, comparing what he has done to America to Natzi Germany is silly and irresponsible rhetoric. Take it from me, an actual, real live American citizen living under Dubyas tenure - Things are just fine here, free as ever.

So - You got no Problem with:

- Illegal Invasions

- Corruptions at High Places in the Goverment

- Corruptions of Military Contractors

- Forming of Powerful Security Agencies

- Abuses at Prison Camps

- Overwhelming Importance of the Military Sector, with Records high Budget

- Overall Protection of Corporate Power

- Genesis of the Police State

Just to name a Few.

OK, so you are telling yourself "Only 3 Years Left" - but I am sure Bush is going to make these 3 years really LONG...

[edit on 18/7/05 by Souljah]



I'm sure Skippy has a problem with these things, however, to him (and most citizens) It is NOT a problem until it happens to them. I had no problem with Eminent Domain- until they tried to take my house.

Do not forget the social conditioning "most" live under... "out of sight, out of mind"

Peace



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by Souljah
"A dictatorship would be a heck-of a lot easier; as long as I'm dictator."
President George W. Bush



i just want to know where this quote came from. i don't believe he would ever have said anything like this unless it was in the context of a board game or something.



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 10:26 AM
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I thought the whole America 05' is Germany 1930 was trashed a while ago.

Your taking the dictatorship quote from Dubya, yeah it may sound all corrupt and evil; but infact he was clearly joking (yes their is video footage of it and i've seen. In Michael Moores movie).

Your statements weak and full of holes.
Fits the profile of almost any nation, some of it is down right opnion and not acutally factual.

Nazi germany just isn't a faze that will happen. It happened soon after WWI was over. When the peoples heart and minds where lost, the depression had taken over. The citizens needed a leader, someone who can lead them out of the pit.
Hitler ran a dictatorship, Bush runs a democracy.

Media is often bashed because of its sometime biased opinions, but isn't that all over the world?? This forum could even be mistaken for FOX news.
I would be happy to debate into details, just as long this doesn't turn into a flame.



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by Serum39

I'm sure Skippy has a problem with these things, however, to him (and most citizens) It is NOT a problem until it happens to them. I had no problem with Eminent Domain- until they tried to take my house.

Do not forget the social conditioning "most" live under... "out of sight, out of mind"

Peace


I am against eminent domain of course. But you mention social conditioning: BAH! Here I am communicating to you on a CONSPIRACY web site that speaks at length about all the stuff that most never even dream about, let alone think about. I am under no social conditioning or in an "out of sight.." mindset. I talk about the injustices of this worl every day, dont tell me I have vbeen "conditioned"

Is it so hard to believe that most Americans are plenty smart enough to know whats going on AND they are mostly happy about it?

You guys need to come down from your conspirator mindset from time to time and realize not all of it is true.


Again: I am a mostly HAPPY American who doenst think the government has gone to far YET. And I will be happier the day Dubya leaves office and we can start getting back to business.

Remember: The overwhelming VAST majority of Americans will never experience eminent domain or police opression.



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by fledgling666

Originally posted by Souljah
"A dictatorship would be a heck-of a lot easier; as long as I'm dictator."
President George W. Bush


i just want to know where this quote came from. i don't believe he would ever have said anything like this unless it was in the context of a board game or something.




Here is a video of George Bush Saying,
"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier - just so long I'm the dictator." December 18, 2000

www.newsgateway.ca...




GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.

from CNN
transcripts.cnn.com...









[edit on 18/7/2005 by Sauron]



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 10:34 AM
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didnt Bush say that because he is dealing with partisan attacks by Democrats and he is complaining about not getting wat he wants like Federal judges, economic policies, dealing with abortion or stem cell research, taxes. dictator can do wat he wants, but Bush sees that he cant do anithing. thats democracy, and Bush even had to confine with the Democrat leaders to assure them that he will consent with them on Supreme court justices. no matter if u try to compare to him with Hitler, it fails.



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 10:35 AM
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NPR is (*was) the only place to hear this kind of info in American media...
superb writers and journalists do a great job uncovering these type of abuses of the system, and in return...

republicans obviously try to "gag" NPR by saying that they are far too liberal... and since they are "public" they should fall in line...

THAT would be the Conservatives ("elites" for this arguements sake) pushing a conservative agenda onto NPR...

which for the record, NPR is not LIBERAL.. it is truth uncensored and unbiased, away from the political sway..., and until now, not subject to it...

They are in danger of losing funding if they don't agree to allow several consrvative groups to have airtime...

How is that for ultimate control of the media...
Not only do they have control of all corporate media thru money ties, and connections... they now want total control over all "public" airwaves...

If we do not preserve a radio network that is free from this administrations agenda, then there will be no truth coming to light any time soon...

and whoever says that in 3 years it wont matter... wrong...
Supreme court changes, legislative changes, civil rights changes... all take time to fix, and some things are permenant (Like the previous administrations mistake in giving china tech data)
these are just the obvious dangers... there are several still looming for the future administrations...

[edit on 18-7-2005 by LazarusTheLong]



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by skippytjc
Again: I am a mostly HAPPY American who doenst think the government has gone to far YET.


When have they then? When you see troops on your street? When is enough enough for you? Reguardless of whether or not you have seen it, it is going on. I have not been rounded up and carted off to a secret detention facitility, denied legal council, and held indefinitely....but that does not mean that it is not happening.

Another parralell to Germany that somehow escapes everyones mind. The fact that in Geramny hardly anyone spoke out against Hitler. No one had a problem with his policies, because they were targetted at Jews. It was only when Germany started to suffer, that the German people cared.

I have always liked to say....By the time "they" knock on your door, it's already too late......just something to think about Skippy.

Or as someone else once said...

In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Communist. They then came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak out.

-Attributed to Martin Niemoeller



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by skippytjc
#1 I never voted or wanted to go to Iraq. It’s Iran that should have been attacked.

Well then you are the Same as the People who actually SUPPORT your current President - an averege Muslim Hater.

Thats what your current goverment has done to you - turned you into a Muslim Hater.



#2 Name one government on the planet that doesn’t have corrupt politicians. The great thing about the USA is we have the ability to shed them every few years.

Good point - Corruption and Politics go hand in hand.

So, assuming the Most Powerful Nation in the World has also the Most Spread Corruption. And Judging by the Number of Laws you have in the good ol' US of A, your Society is MORE Corrupt then any other in the World.

The More Corrupt the State, The More Numerous the Laws



#3 Halliburton will get what’s coming to them, the ball is already rolling.

AMEN to That!



#4 Nothing wrong with powerful defense agencies. I approve of them, after all: Who else will battle the radical Islamic terrorists who are at siege against me and my family? They attacked us once already...

So you are saying its Nothing Wrong with GESTAPO Also?

And Belive me, there are Far Worse Things that threat You and Your Family than Radical Islamic Terrorists - how About RADICAL DOMESTIC TERRORISTS, the ones that sit in the Oval Office and Decide which part of the World they will conques Next?



#5 What abuse at terrorist detention centers? Your definition of abuse is different than mine. I have no problem treating my nation’s enemies the way they treat us, and I have no issue treating a terrorist detainee however is needed to get the info we need. Heck, my preference would to have left them dead on the battle field.

Well I knew your reaction to this Point - but I put it in Anyways.

And the Way you Treat your "Enemies" in Camps like Gitmo - well HOPE that nobody will return that Treatment backatcha...



#6 Importance in military and super high budget. Well, that’s how the world’s largest and most powerful nation needs to stay the worlds largest and most powerful. With radical Islamic terrorists salivating at the mouth to destroy us and kill Americans at every opportunity, how can we afford not to be this way?

Again the 3 Holy Words, that the MAN you say you HATE so Much (Dubya) has intergrated in your head: Radical, Islamic, Terrorist.

But I see the Worlds Most Powerful Army bogged down in Downtown Iraq and being tricked by the few "Ragheads" that are Resisting since Day One.

You think giving Zillions and Zillions of Dollars will HELP to eliminte that Threat?

Didnt you get 'nuff proof, that Ultra Modern Weaponry dont stand a chance against Radical Islam, that you want to Fight so Eagerly?



#7 Corporate protection? Again, find me one nation in the world that doesn’t protect certain corporate interests. You can’t, because all nations do it. Hell, even communist China protects its private industries.

The way your Goverment Protects Corporations such as Halliburton is kind of Sickening. But - HEY, as long as the Interests of Few Private Corporations are Protected and dont stand against the Interests of the People, everything is Fine and Dandy.

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power."



#8 Police state? Where? I don’t see it. That’s an inaccurate assumption on your part. I have yet to have a negative encounter with ANY agent of the law in all of my life. I can go about my business for days at a time and not see but a police car drive by from time to time or an officer standing directing traffic at a work site. What police state? Your OPINION regarding this couldn’t be any further from the truth. Heck, London has a bigger police presence than any city in the USA. We don’t even have a government controlled closed circuit camera system in place yet!!

www.infowars.com...

www.prisonplanet.tv...

educate-yourself.org...



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 11:06 AM
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Does all this sound familiar?



"In Barcelona, it was perfect bombing weather. The cafes along the Ramblas were crowded. There was nothing much to drink: a sweet fizzy poison called orangeade and a horrible liquid supposed to be sherry. There was, of course, nothing to eat. Everyone was out, enjoying the cold afternoon sunlight. No bombers had come for at least two hours. The flower stalls look bright and pretty along the promenade. 'The flowers are all sold, Senores. For the funerals of those killed in the eleven o'clock bombing, poor souls'. It had been a clear and cold day all yesterday …'What beautiful weather', a woman said, and she stood, holding her shawl around her, staring at the sky. 'And the nights are as fine as the days. A catastrophe,' she said … everyone listened for the sirens all the time, and when we saw the bombers, they were like tiny silver bullets, moving forever up, across the sky."

How familiar that sounds. Barcelona. Guernica. Hiroshima. Vietnam. Cambodia. Palestine. Afghanistan. Iraq.

The "historical legacy" of the International Brigade, as Martha Gellhorn wrote, is that they were fighting for us all. For me, that means a legacy of truth - a way of seeing through the smokescreen of propaganda, including and especially the propaganda of our own governments: a legacy of confronting great and rapacious power in whatever form it appears.

That legacy is needed today more than ever. Impeccable gentlemen now invade defenceless countries in our name. They speak of freedom and democracy, and our way of life and our values. They don't wear armbands and they don't strut. They are different from fascists. But their goals are not different. Conquest, domination, the control of vital resources.

It is a warning about sinister power behind democratic facades that uses the battle cries of democracy. It is a warning about messianic politicians, apparently touched by God, and about appeasement and truth. And it is about moral courage: about speaking out, breaking a silence. I salute those of you International Brigaders who are here today, who did more than speak out. I thank you and your fallen comrades for what you did for us all, and for your legacy of truth and your moral courage.

La Lucha continua!


Source:
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posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 11:13 AM
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Fisrt, Bush made the quoted statement in jest, and you know that. However, it would be easier for him if he were the dictator, no doubt.

It would seemthat we have none of the requirements you mentioned. WE do not have a rubberstamp legislative body, and we do not have a court system that rules in his stated favor.

You scenario isn't far-fetched, in my mind, you are simply over-reaching to make it now.



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Fisrt, Bush made the quoted statement in jest, and you know that. However, it would be easier for him if he were the dictator, no doubt.

Well Sir, I think that in ever Jest there is SOME Truth to be revealed.

But I guess it is EASY for him now, that he is the President also.



You scenario isn't far-fetched, in my mind, you are simply over-reaching to make it now.

Well - The Future will Tell us, who was Right and who was Wrong.

I Sincerly Hope I am Wrong and that my Scenario is not going to Happen.



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