I can't wait to hear more. I hate to say I don't have much direction for you here. But I don't.
However, I will give your technique a shot.
Edit: amarenell. Grammar
[edit on 17-7-2005 by amarenell]
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Topic started on 17-7-2005 @ 09:26 PM by Davood
Lets flash back to august / 03 / 2003
Let me preface this with a thought, occasionally when I sleep, I dream out my regular days of life and I dream out more time that im actually asleep. Almost as if my mind is working faster than normal, and im going over alot more information than normal. Ive had this happen while awake too if im concentrating on something enough, time seems to slow down, ive tested this a few times looking at a clock, I was able to count to 10-15 seconds before the seconds changed. Usually when I wake up from ths dreams like that or when I do it while awake, I get an intense migraine that lasts for a day. If the experience was fairly short then I dont get the migraine. And before anyone asks.
I dont smoke, or drink, or take any drugs, recreational or not. This has been happening to me as far back as I remember, it only happens now when I want it to generally, but it used to happen involuntarily, and it would make simple quick tasks become so tedious and torturous, imagine spending equivalent of 10 minutes experiencing the actions of walking from from my room to the basement to get the vacuum cleaner, then having an insane headache the entire time using the vacuum cleaner because I went through a "mind speed up" cycle before turning it on (is there a scientific term for that?).
Also, I am not religious, I dont believe in any religions teachings aside from respecting my fellow human. And I have never really heard hindi words, or have any idea about hindi culture etc.
Anyways let us get back on topic...
So onto the dream:
*Some technical aspects first, I wasnt particularily tired when I went to bed that night, and when I slept, i dreamed out 7 days of my life, and I was only asleep for 15 hours, when I woke up my whole body felt like i had been tortured for days and had used all my strenth many times over, i could barely get out of bed and i had a migraine that lasted a few days after that.
So the dream itself was relatively simple, I lived out my life in it, and took the bus to work, ate food, played video games, chatted with people on the bus home, and I even slept in the dream, now this was the first time I have ever actually slept in a dream, then dreamed inside that dream. From this point on we will call the dream within a dream, the inner dream, and the first part where I dreamed my regular life, the "outer dream". Through all this I KNEW I was dreaming both the inner and outer dreams.
The first night in the inner dream, I dreamed that I was at a beach at night time, and that there was an old man sitting on a blanket near the water, and he beckoned me to come to him.
So naturally I did, he started telling me to do things ive always done, eat food, go to work, sleep, visit the bathroom, etc, I said ok whatever this is my subconcious right, I know im doing these things, blah blah blah.
Moving on to night two, I have the same dream again, but the old man says hey do you want to learn how to focus your mind and reach a new level of awareness. I said sure, and he taught me a way to focus my mind, and to unfocus my mind. This went on for another night, and then on the 4th day I met the old man in the outer dream, on the bus on the way to work. He asked if I was practising everything he was teaching me, and I said yes, and I continued on my day because the old man refused to talk to me with words (he used telepathy in the outer dream).
So over the course of the next few days I had dreams with the old man, we went into some weird ass stuff together learning about mind focusing etc, and he would ask me every morning on the way to work if I was practising and what I was learning. And the 7th day rolls around, on the bus on the way to work, I meet the old man and he says to me, we are done the lessons, from here you will learn on your own. So I say ok great, you know that this is a dream and I probably made you up, and he says you can believe what you want, and so I said, who are you then? He said, you will not find out from me, but you may find out on your own, now you must wake up. And with that I was torn out of the outer dream and I woke up feeling so exhausted and sore I had to lie there for an hour before I could get up and get dressed etc, when I looked at my clock I saw I had slept 15 hours. For the next few days starting from when I woke up, I had a very intense migraine.
Ok so blah, so what? weird random dream right?
Wrong!
Here is where it gets crazy, I started practising the mind focusing technique...
My results varied, but they seemed to hinge around me hearing voices, or feeling the presence of people nearby and their foremost emotion or intention, if I look at someone and focus on them I will know if they are bored happy sad angry etc And an ability I somehow manifested when I was a kid (being able to feel people nearby, and know who they are if I know them personally) is much more refined now, I can usually tell almost everytime they are about to call me, or if I am physically near them I generally know/guess everything they are going to say. Even for stuff out of the blue, like "hey dave watch out for the nail box around the corner", but in my mind before my dad even says that ill have thought, 'nails around the corner'.
As far as hearing voices is concerned, about a week after I had that dream I was lying in bed practising the mind focusing technique, and I heard names "neela devis senai mudiyalar" it almost sounded like they were asking for help, and I had a distinct feeling of being drawn into something that wasnt physical. I woke up because I totally freaked out, and wrote the names down, then went back to sleep and slept normally. Just a note, those names were repeated for a while before I had the weird sensation and woke up.
About 10 days after that. I heard another name spoken once clearly Hakura Balurza, I wrote it down and went back to sleep.
I never bothered to look those names up, I just went about my daily life and practised the mind focusing technique while walking around. But about 3 weeks from the initial dream,
I talked with a friend about all this, and explained it all in detail, and he suggested that I try and look the names up, so I agreed, and I came up with this website :
www.angelfire.com...
See temple 82 at the bottom.....
neela devis, senai mudiyalar
I want to try and contact that temple and find out if they know anything.. the webmaster of that site never responded to my email.
And I found a messageboard for hindi people for the 2nd instance where I heard a name, I wont post a link here becaues it violates the board policies to link to other messageboards, but the message that mentions hakura balurza was based on a dream some dude had the same night I had that whacky dream. He had a dream where some higher being drew him into another state of awareness (astrally?) and showed him examples of life from all over the world, and explained that together we are one entity and that we need the evil and the good (I think, I dont understand hindi at all, most of it was in english tho).
Anyways this is a fairly long write up, I will now wrap it up with an explanation of the mind focusing technique.
Try this sometime, go lie down, remove as much outside stimulus as you can (music, light, etc) then start thinking about your body, starting from your feet, and LET GO of that part of your body in your mind and pretend it isnt there, and slowly work up your whole body till you get to your head, and once you manage to let that go, hold on to the "nothingness" for as long as you can, when you start you can only do it for a few seconds. Eventually you can skip the excersize and go straight to the nothingness.
There are alot of things you can do while holding onto the "nothingness" you can feel people better if you had the ability before, you can ignore most physical sensations, and for me... I can make things slow down around me voluntarily (my mind working faster or something?) if I dont mind getting a headache afterwards. However the slow down thing still happens involuntarily at least once a month, it can be annoying.
Now that you know the basic technique to learn the mind focusing, here is something else, you can do the opposite of the "letting go of the body" excersize when you wake up in the morning, and slowly think of each body part and hold it strongly in your mind till you have the entire body, and focus on that as much as you can. If you can do it for a few seconds or so, you will be fully awake, and be a little more aware of sounds etc.
Anyways there is more to this, im going to cut it off here, and let people ask questions or make comments, ill type some more of my findings up and post later. I wonder if some hindu priests were contacting me somehow telepathically, hah. I have a whacky story to support it that I wil post later. I should probably try and contact the Indian embassy here first though.
Let me preface this with a thought, occasionally when I sleep, I dream out my regular days of life and I dream out more time that im actually asleep. Almost as if my mind is working faster than normal, and im going over alot more information than normal. Ive had this happen while awake too if im concentrating on something enough, time seems to slow down, ive tested this a few times looking at a clock, I was able to count to 10-15 seconds before the seconds changed. Usually when I wake up from ths dreams like that or when I do it while awake, I get an intense migraine that lasts for a day. If the experience was fairly short then I dont get the migraine. And before anyone asks.
I dont smoke, or drink, or take any drugs, recreational or not. This has been happening to me as far back as I remember, it only happens now when I want it to generally, but it used to happen involuntarily, and it would make simple quick tasks become so tedious and torturous, imagine spending equivalent of 10 minutes experiencing the actions of walking from from my room to the basement to get the vacuum cleaner, then having an insane headache the entire time using the vacuum cleaner because I went through a "mind speed up" cycle before turning it on (is there a scientific term for that?).
Also, I am not religious, I dont believe in any religions teachings aside from respecting my fellow human. And I have never really heard hindi words, or have any idea about hindi culture etc.
Anyways let us get back on topic...
So onto the dream:
*Some technical aspects first, I wasnt particularily tired when I went to bed that night, and when I slept, i dreamed out 7 days of my life, and I was only asleep for 15 hours, when I woke up my whole body felt like i had been tortured for days and had used all my strenth many times over, i could barely get out of bed and i had a migraine that lasted a few days after that.
So the dream itself was relatively simple, I lived out my life in it, and took the bus to work, ate food, played video games, chatted with people on the bus home, and I even slept in the dream, now this was the first time I have ever actually slept in a dream, then dreamed inside that dream. From this point on we will call the dream within a dream, the inner dream, and the first part where I dreamed my regular life, the "outer dream". Through all this I KNEW I was dreaming both the inner and outer dreams.
The first night in the inner dream, I dreamed that I was at a beach at night time, and that there was an old man sitting on a blanket near the water, and he beckoned me to come to him.
So naturally I did, he started telling me to do things ive always done, eat food, go to work, sleep, visit the bathroom, etc, I said ok whatever this is my subconcious right, I know im doing these things, blah blah blah.
Moving on to night two, I have the same dream again, but the old man says hey do you want to learn how to focus your mind and reach a new level of awareness. I said sure, and he taught me a way to focus my mind, and to unfocus my mind. This went on for another night, and then on the 4th day I met the old man in the outer dream, on the bus on the way to work. He asked if I was practising everything he was teaching me, and I said yes, and I continued on my day because the old man refused to talk to me with words (he used telepathy in the outer dream).
So over the course of the next few days I had dreams with the old man, we went into some weird ass stuff together learning about mind focusing etc, and he would ask me every morning on the way to work if I was practising and what I was learning. And the 7th day rolls around, on the bus on the way to work, I meet the old man and he says to me, we are done the lessons, from here you will learn on your own. So I say ok great, you know that this is a dream and I probably made you up, and he says you can believe what you want, and so I said, who are you then? He said, you will not find out from me, but you may find out on your own, now you must wake up. And with that I was torn out of the outer dream and I woke up feeling so exhausted and sore I had to lie there for an hour before I could get up and get dressed etc, when I looked at my clock I saw I had slept 15 hours. For the next few days starting from when I woke up, I had a very intense migraine.
Ok so blah, so what? weird random dream right?
Wrong!
Here is where it gets crazy, I started practising the mind focusing technique...
My results varied, but they seemed to hinge around me hearing voices, or feeling the presence of people nearby and their foremost emotion or intention, if I look at someone and focus on them I will know if they are bored happy sad angry etc And an ability I somehow manifested when I was a kid (being able to feel people nearby, and know who they are if I know them personally) is much more refined now, I can usually tell almost everytime they are about to call me, or if I am physically near them I generally know/guess everything they are going to say. Even for stuff out of the blue, like "hey dave watch out for the nail box around the corner", but in my mind before my dad even says that ill have thought, 'nails around the corner'.
As far as hearing voices is concerned, about a week after I had that dream I was lying in bed practising the mind focusing technique, and I heard names "neela devis senai mudiyalar" it almost sounded like they were asking for help, and I had a distinct feeling of being drawn into something that wasnt physical. I woke up because I totally freaked out, and wrote the names down, then went back to sleep and slept normally. Just a note, those names were repeated for a while before I had the weird sensation and woke up.
About 10 days after that. I heard another name spoken once clearly Hakura Balurza, I wrote it down and went back to sleep.
I never bothered to look those names up, I just went about my daily life and practised the mind focusing technique while walking around. But about 3 weeks from the initial dream,
I talked with a friend about all this, and explained it all in detail, and he suggested that I try and look the names up, so I agreed, and I came up with this website :
www.angelfire.com...
See temple 82 at the bottom.....
neela devis, senai mudiyalar
I want to try and contact that temple and find out if they know anything.. the webmaster of that site never responded to my email.
And I found a messageboard for hindi people for the 2nd instance where I heard a name, I wont post a link here becaues it violates the board policies to link to other messageboards, but the message that mentions hakura balurza was based on a dream some dude had the same night I had that whacky dream. He had a dream where some higher being drew him into another state of awareness (astrally?) and showed him examples of life from all over the world, and explained that together we are one entity and that we need the evil and the good (I think, I dont understand hindi at all, most of it was in english tho).
Anyways this is a fairly long write up, I will now wrap it up with an explanation of the mind focusing technique.
Try this sometime, go lie down, remove as much outside stimulus as you can (music, light, etc) then start thinking about your body, starting from your feet, and LET GO of that part of your body in your mind and pretend it isnt there, and slowly work up your whole body till you get to your head, and once you manage to let that go, hold on to the "nothingness" for as long as you can, when you start you can only do it for a few seconds. Eventually you can skip the excersize and go straight to the nothingness.
There are alot of things you can do while holding onto the "nothingness" you can feel people better if you had the ability before, you can ignore most physical sensations, and for me... I can make things slow down around me voluntarily (my mind working faster or something?) if I dont mind getting a headache afterwards. However the slow down thing still happens involuntarily at least once a month, it can be annoying.
Now that you know the basic technique to learn the mind focusing, here is something else, you can do the opposite of the "letting go of the body" excersize when you wake up in the morning, and slowly think of each body part and hold it strongly in your mind till you have the entire body, and focus on that as much as you can. If you can do it for a few seconds or so, you will be fully awake, and be a little more aware of sounds etc.
Anyways there is more to this, im going to cut it off here, and let people ask questions or make comments, ill type some more of my findings up and post later. I wonder if some hindu priests were contacting me somehow telepathically, hah. I have a whacky story to support it that I wil post later. I should probably try and contact the Indian embassy here first though.
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