Originally posted by Fester
Well if you think that going to court with some of the most powerful people in the world is wise and that you would actually have a fair trial then
why not do it?
Seriously sir, you would only end up dead trying something so dense. Get real. Libel is not something that you are worth dying for is it? You may be
think that the truth is worth dying for. I doubt that it isn't. Yet will the truth be revealed before one was killed. Or better yet, would anyone
even believe you?
Yeah maybe a few of us and the few others in America and around the world. But will the media advertize you the support you get? Will the common proud
American support your beliefs?
That is the question you must ask.
So Dragonrider, what makes you think that Usama Bin Laden is in bed with our administrative or military elites?
There is something SOOOOOO familiar about this....
*cough* FM *cough*
OK, I'll play along...
First of all, you have to define exactly who is accusing me of libel. The US government? Did I specify the US government in total? OK, maybe the CIA,
as they are the ones I tend to suspect in such matters.
When was the last time the CIA showed up in court? On a libel case?
Are they likely to make me disappear because I level such charges at them? Well now, wouldnt that be a virtual admission of guilt to make a loud
public voice disappear after making such allegations? (Please be real, doing so would only make more questions be asked...)
So assume that we do end up in court (even if the CIA lead attourney were reading this thread, he/she would likely be shaking his head...) As I said,
the burden of proof lies with the accuser... and to prove me (or anyone else) wrong, that would mean dragging information that they would prefer to
leave hidden out into the public light. Would they even show up in court? That would bring far too much public attention on the situation.
But, to your point about proving my point:
Network dates back to Afghan war
Bin Laden began forming his network in 1979, when he went to Afghanistan to fight the Soviets alongside Afghan resistance fighters known as the
He used his family's connections and wealth to raise money for the Afghan resistance and provide the mujahedeen with logistical and humanitarian aid,
and participated in several battles in the Afghan war.
As the war with the Soviets drew to a close, bin Laden formed al Qaeda, an organization of ex-mujahedeen and other supporters channeling fighters and
funds to the Afghan resistance.
Once the Soviets pulled out of Afghanistan, bin Laden returned to Saudi Arabia to work for the family construction firm, the bin Laden Group. He
became involved in Saudi groups opposed to the reigning Saudi monarchy, the Fahd family.
(Now, what they are not mentioning is the deep ties between the Mujahedeen and the CIA, but that is never going to be released on CNN!)
And as Afghan rebels fought Soviet invaders in the During the 1980s, the United States gave aid from afar while Saudi exile Osama bin Laden provided
support from within Afghanistan. In 1988, with U.S. knowledge, bin Laden created Al-Qaeda (The Base); a conglomerate of quasi-independent Islamic
terrorist cells spread across 26 or so countries.
The Soviets invaded the nation and installed a puppet regime in the capitol of Kabul after anti-Communist forces took control in 1979. A long, weary
guerilla war between various Afghan resistance groups and Soviet forces ensued. In 1984, the United States and other nations began supporting the
Mujahedeen, and in 1992 the resistance group successfully took over Kabul and declared Afghanistan liberated.