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Topic started on 17-7-2005 @ 04:30 AM by Nventual
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www.home.earthlink.net...
I don't know what the colour change is, but is that video real? Does he move the wheel with telekinesis or is it just someone blowing on it?
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reply posted on 17-7-2005 @ 08:08 AM by Yarcofin
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I'm not going to bother looking at the video because I've seen enough such things and my computer has big problems loading AVI files, but I would
say if it isn't at least under a glass so you can tell he isn't blowing on it or affect it like that, etc. then I wouldn't believe it. I've seen
plenty where the object is under glass so you couldn't blow on it, and I'm still not sure if it is real or not (motors in/below the object, etc).
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reply posted on 17-7-2005 @ 08:14 AM by Nventual
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Damn, I think you're right about the motor.
I won't believe one of these things until they have sound with it and have it on a glass table, and a better quality camera.
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reply posted on 17-7-2005 @ 11:04 AM by CloudlessKnight
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Haha. Motors...
Ok, I went to psipog two or three years ago and saw this video. There are also articles that go with it that will teach you how to do it yourself.
There's no motors or tricks to it. You really can move things through telekenisis, and if you stick with it and do what the articles say, you too
can move things like this paper wheel. I know you can if you just stick with it, since I've done it myself.
Just try it for yourself...
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reply posted on 17-7-2005 @ 11:35 AM by Kitsunegari
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idk, looks to me like that thing it was siting on was probably being rotated from under the table.
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reply posted on 17-7-2005 @ 01:58 PM by chron_1ck
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Originally posted by CloudlessKnight
Haha. Motors...
Ok, I went to psipog two or three years ago and saw this video. There are also articles that go with it that will teach you how to do it yourself.
There's no motors or tricks to it. You really can move things through telekenisis, and if you stick with it and do what the articles say, you too
can move things like this paper wheel. I know you can if you just stick with it, since I've done it myself.
Just try it for yourself...
[edit on 17-7-2005 by CloudlessKnight] 
Got to agree with you there CloudlessKnight, I too have been to psipog.org and seen the vid b4 as well as learn telekinesis.
Managed to be able to spin the wheel in either direction its just a case of finding the mechanism your mind uses to do it, remember the mechanism and
what it "feels" like and practice, practice, practice. And most important of all BELIEVE it IS POSSIBLE!
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reply posted on 17-7-2005 @ 02:10 PM by Kitsunegari
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yeah CloudlessKnight, i have changed my mind about this. after reading your post, i decided to check out the site and found the psi balls thing, it
works!!! everyone should try this, it is so awesome!!  thanks everybody!!
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reply posted on 17-7-2005 @ 02:22 PM by Umbrax
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If you go to psipog.org there are many videos of this . Including some that you can't dismiss with a motor or blowing on the wheel.
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reply posted on 17-7-2005 @ 04:22 PM by muzzleflash
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no way u guys cant be for real lol
telekinesis???
this will change the history books forever; if u guys r legit
ill go check it out and see if i can do it toooo lol
hey btw; think of all the people u could impress with this nifty trick? 
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reply posted on 17-7-2005 @ 11:50 PM by Davood
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The concepts presented there are interesting, I will experiment with it for a few months and if I am successful I will try and do something that is
semi conclusive and record it for all to see.
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reply posted on 18-7-2005 @ 12:20 AM by xu
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those people must be real clowns, did you ever thought why that paper is in that particular shape?
it works with a very basic principle, the heated air rises, there was another thread about the swiss knife video which they used invisible
thread.
now this is a link that will ultimately lower the credibility of that www.psipog.org and Im
sure wil be enough that these clowns are using some known tricks to deceive people as if they are using telekinesis.
edit: even though the link I gave is as ignorant as the psipog, you can make the same setup by the figures and instructions shown there, and try it
yourself, the heated air rises and rotates the paper blade. if you are not sure it is the heated air try placing the paper blade above something hot
to see it rotate like crazy.
and one more trick before it shows up in telekinesis websites. open a bottle of visky, vodka or any other alcohol drink (prefer high alcohol
percentage, beer wont work) and pour some of it to the back of the cap, and place the cap on top of the bottle upside down, and hold the bottle with
your both hands tightly, the cap will start to hop. this is called making the cap dance, by using mysterious forces from outer space
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reply posted on 18-7-2005 @ 12:33 AM by Umbrax
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xu, how exactly does www.futureworld.dk... lower the credibility of psipog.org?
 I have heard it being explained by the heat of the hand, which should make the paper rotate. But hot air rises and will make the paper wobble
instead of rotating. 
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reply posted on 18-7-2005 @ 12:46 AM by xu
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I was editing the above post, try it at home and see for yourself.
I learned this trick at junior high school from a devoted physics teacher, and it appeared to me as if that page is the instructions for this
experiment. however as I stated in above edit the person who wrote that last comment is not really giving it a thought. still the instructions to make
one for yourself is good. try it.
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reply posted on 18-7-2005 @ 01:13 AM by Umbrax
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Originally posted by xu
I was editing the above post, try it at home and see for yourself. 
It's funny you said that. Immediately after seeing the instruction page I made 'The Top'. I cupped my hand as it instructed (also for the most part
in the above video the guy was only pointing his fingers). The paper didn't move for me. How much heat can possible come from my hands anyway?
I even went as far as to put the paper over a lamp. Again no spinning, just a bit of a wobble.
But lets say I was just doing it wrong. How does the hot air explanation explain this video?
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reply posted on 18-7-2005 @ 03:06 AM by xu
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a needle tip is about 50 micron diameter. so the paper is actually hovering in mid air without any significant friction. so it is very sensitive to
forces applied to it. your body temperature is 38 degrees celcius. the avarage room temperature is at about 20 degrees Celcius. the air that contacts
your body or hands will heat up and rise, however the room temperature is important here, for example if the room temp is hotter than your body temp
than your body will cool down the air, but generally that is not the case, be sure your room temp is not something like 30-35 degree Celcius. besides
that I am ready to bet my life on the subject that the rotation that you see in that video is caused by hot air rising, Ive done that, Ive seen it.
the reason that it didnt work out with you is you either were not patient enough or the needle pierced through the paper half way through. and using a
lightbulb isnt a good idea since it is like 200 degrees opposed to 20 degrees room temp, so the rising air will move too fast and even knock out the
paper, use something like a warm cup of coffee, it will work and you will see that a cup of coffe can have supernatural powers
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reply posted on 18-7-2005 @ 07:15 AM by Yarcofin
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Lol I like that one link on that "futureworld" website, "Dissolving Clouds"  .
Anyway, I have been to psipog.org too, but I never gained any psychic powers. Perhaps I am just not good enough with the skills needed, who knows
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And someone mentioned the Swiss Army Knife pic.... I reproduced that even without an invisible string. I easily found a neat way to make it look like
you are levitating stuff: take a picture of you throwing crap up, and then catch it in mid-air with a high shutter speed  . I have some pretty sweet
pictures of me "floating" a can of AXE body spray, a stapler, a computer monitor, etc. ....... I don't believe levitation/floatation pics
at all any more.
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reply posted on 18-7-2005 @ 05:49 PM by Phood
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This is sad...
It made me doubt this aswell :/
But: Gazrok has claimed he has succeded in some kind of telekenesis(it may have been stopping a pointer on a smaller watch), so to me it adds
credibility to the subject
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reply posted on 18-7-2005 @ 07:34 PM by Snap
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It's real. He really should stop using his hands though, it surves no purpose. The only thing that does is make all the "Skeptics" say that it's
heat causing it to move. No hands? Then it's air currents!! Under a glass? A hidden motor!! lol They just keep coming up with something else.
Anyway, yes it's real. I can do it too. Under a glass. No hands. (and yes, no motor lol)
No I'm not going to prove it. Why should I? Would posting a picture or movie actually accomplish anything?
Just balance a piece of paper on a pin, or anything pointy. Then clear your mind, and EXPECT it to move like you're expecting the phone to ring.
Don't try to move it by "straining" your mind at it. :p Anyone can do it.
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reply posted on 18-7-2005 @ 07:38 PM by Umbrax
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Originally posted by Snap
No I'm not going to prove it. Why should I? Would posting a picture or movie actually accomplish anything?

You are right, pictures and videos prove nothing. One only has to look at the UFO board to see that. Every vid or pic that comes through is called
fake so why make one of your own?
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reply posted on 18-7-2005 @ 08:08 PM by Snap
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Exactly.
One interesting thing about TK/PK is this:
You get all psyched up thinking how cool it'll be to be able to it, and once you DO... you loose interest. It's like it becomes a very mundane
ho-hum thing. It's very odd.
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