The Myth of the Suicide Bomber, page 1
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reply posted on 18-7-2005 @ 06:17 PM by Seekerof
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As for the "myth," allow me to bust that rationale.
According to Islam:
* It is forbidden to commit suicide, for any reason.
* Terrorism and all such acts of are forbidden.
* It is forbidden to target and kill/murder innocents.
* Each of the above stand in stark contradiction to the teachings of Islam and Muhammad.

More here, which is surpirsing you had no comment to be had in this linked topic: Why It Makes “Sense” For the Resistance to Target Innocent Iraqis
Furthermore here, which I also heatedly contested:
The Logic of Suicide Terrorism: It’s the Occupation, not the Fundamentalism


You see, the issue here is that it is the WEST who is rationalizing such things/acts as you are know quoting from, NOT ISLAM. Despite the reasons we in the WEST can give to rationalize why Muslims target innocents or do suicide bombings, etc, they are Muslims that also strictly practice the faith of ISLAM. I have provide all the non-biased links needed to understand that ISLAM dos NOT condone such acts as described above, no matter how many people in the WEST wish to justify those acts.

Utterly amazing anyone can condone this when those who are doing such things do not even have the backing of their own religion and faith.





seekerof

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reply posted on 18-7-2005 @ 11:00 PM by Seekerof
Well written piece, ECK, but I do not agree with it.
I mentioned in one of those threads that I posted in my last post, I have met Associate Professor Pape. He and I attended some summer seminars together. He is well written and has exceptional research skills.

As such, his data mainly pertains to the Western perspective: you know, the outside looking in type thing? Anyhow, he does not adequately nor nearly cover enough of the Muslim/Islam perspective when he trys to establish that suicide bombings, that also target and kill/murder innocents and children, are soley based on the simple theory of:
"No occupation, no terrorism," or in his applied perspective: "No occupation, no suicide bombings."

His data also fails to mention that the theory he asserts does not apply to all cases of acts involving suicide bombings. Other than that, I agree with alot of what he asserts, based on the data he has at his disposal.

Again, he is giving a Western perspective on this, not an Islamic perspective, because if he was, he would not have failed to mention what I already have in this thread:

According to Islam:
* It is forbidden to commit suicide, for any reason.
* Terrorism and all such acts of are forbidden.
* It is forbidden to target and kill/murder innocents.
* Each of the above stand in stark contradiction to the teachings of Islam and Muhammad.

As such, Islam asserts that those who do such acts are not of Islam, thus making anything they do representative of fundamentalism, extremism, fantical, etc. Again, the links provided by me in the "Why It Makes 'Sense' For the Resistance to Target Innocent Iraqis" explain exactly how Islam views suicide bombings, ECK, despite the best 'logical' well-intended efforts of the esteemed Associate Professor Pape. A good intentioned man.

IMHO, despite his Western perspective [outside looking in] on this matter, I agree with Islam and condemn such acts. I would imagine that Islamic scholars know their stuff, as well.




seekerof

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