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Originally posted by Hellmutt
Check this out.
It´s not faked.
Originally posted by Jamuhn
I don't know the exact nature of Illusion's posts since they have been taken down. If this person was truly advocating harm against groups of people, then the only wrong thing with this person's posts was that it violated the board's TOC.
Originally posted by BaastetNoir
would you be a Jew marked like catle and whose family had been burned in a oven, you would think differently... Nazism IS HATE SPEECH and IGNORANCE... and hey ... this board claims to DENY IGNORACNE and that what it was donne.!
If you allow Nazis, why not allow Child molesters?? let them in a post stories about all the pervertions and murderes they have commicted... if there is "freedom of speech " fo one there must be for others??
Freedom of speech come at a very high cost ... you better watch what you wish for, eventually your "social group" may be the next victim, and im sure than you wont think its "freedom of speech" anymore.
The only thing the World needs to know about the Holocaust is that IT HAPPENED, IT WAS EVIL, There is NOTHING to question, and by the turn things are turning, it may happen again..in a global scale ....
Originally posted by Jamuhn
By the way, you do understand that someone can question the holocaust without being a Nazi. There are a number of high-profile people who question minute details of the holocaust, and sometimes even larger parts. They are considered history revisionists, not Nazis. This is another distinction you need to grasp.
Originally posted by Odium
BaastetNoir, never said I agree with anyone being a target or hate. However, is it not better to correct people instead of letting them go on and spread their view over other places?
If we deny ignorance, should we in turn not wish to educate those who are ignorant?
Originally posted by UM_Gazz
If you take enough time to go through the search results, you'll see some of the more radical forums that person has been involved with. Also you may want to read through some of his profiles. You will not find any of his material on ATS.
Originally posted by WyrdeOne
I thought it was the policy of ATS not to discuss banned members in the interest of board sanity?
Were you guys just getting a lot of inquiries regarding the matter, or what?
The T&C are good, especially regarding false information. It should definitely be enforced.
I just thought y'all weren't in the habit of discussing every schmuck who gets shown the door.
question the Holocaust ???? UNREAL ! what is there to question ? Did the Jewsih people trow themsleves in the ovens ? and marked themselves like catle ? UNBELIVEBLE ! Whats there to question about holocaust ?? Arent tapes, videos, photos, newspapers, and even Hitler's own confessions enough ? It IS a FACT.
There is merit in researching more deeply into the holocaust. It certainly happened, anyone who questions that denies all the evidence. However, it may have happened in a much different fashion than we're told.
Moneyed Jews may have financed the camps to an extent, and deals were certainly made behind the scenes sparing those lives 'worth' more. The targets were primarily poor mixed-race semites, Gypsies and Jews. Even the full blooded gypsies were of little concern to Hitler.
Reactions like the above by Baastet make it hard to find anything out though. It's like looking for a needle in a bramble patch... Everything is pokey.
Aren't they really IBM serial numbers?
[edit on 17-7-2005 by WyrdeOne]
Originally posted by obsidian468
Basically, he's saying that instead of just immediately shutting someone out and allowing them to breed further hatred, listen to them
immediately shutting someone out and allowing them to breed further hatred
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
The concept of supporting the "free expression of opinions" does not involve supporting (with private funds) those who would seek to alter widely known, proven, and experienced historical events in an effort to promote hateful motives.
It's that simple.
and NO... i DO NOT understand why would a non-nazi question the Holocaust. What is there to question ?? IT HAPPENED ! what ... are they questioning now if the Jews and everyone else were "asking for it ??