posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 11:59 AM
Originally posted by Relentless
I question it because I really don't see anyone converting anyone on a board like ATS, so I find it curious that it becomes such a heated debate
every time I see it.
There are so many denominations at this point saying what your saying regarding the truth about salvation and the Catholic Church (but I don't think
they all are quite saying the same thing either). Would you mind clarifying for me exactly what you perceive to be the truth concerning salvation,
what you perceive the Catholic teaching to err on regarding this matter and what denomination teaches this?
As far as someone being converted on ATS, I agree that we may not see it, but that doesn't mean it's not happening. This is an excellant way to
spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Some missionaries travel halfway around the world to reach others, I think it's simply amazing that having a
computer and the internet can be used to speak to people all over the world.
To begin with God alone knows the heart and knows those who are saved. So I am not saying that every person who attends catholic is not saved. Also
there are some other denominations that don't truly tell of salvation either. So I am not only upset at the catholic view but any view that adds to
Christ alone and/or sends you to someone other than or in addition to christ for salvation. The church I attend tells of salvation in truth, but yet
I could not say that everyone who attends it is saved.
God tells us a person is saved by grace through faith in the completed work of Christ for the forgiveness of sin. Christ cried on the cross it is
finished, meaning that the payment for each individual sin is complete in Him. A person cannot add anything to it. No works or acts bring us anymore
salvation than we already have in Christ. A decision to place a person's faith in Jesus Christ alone brings salvation. It's a mental decision
concerning a spiritual matter.
I have problems with the eucharist that happens at a catholic mass, it's simply not Biblical. That's not how you receive Christ. The elements are
not changed into the actual body and blood of Christ. The office of Pope is not Biblical nor was Peter the first Pope. God tells us not to pray to
anyone other than Himself, no one. No one else is a mediator between a person and God. Christ alone is our mediator. Purgatory does not exist.
Christ's work was complete to bring us into eternity with God, a person does not go to a place to purge themself of what Christ couldn't. That's
blasphemy, Jesus paid it ALL. When you leave this life as a believer you are with God immediately. There is no purgatory.
There are other things but but I am upset because there are people who believe they are going to heaven because they are following some specific
guidelines when they are actually headed for eternal seperation from God.
Faith alone in Christ makes us accepted by God, we become justified and then the Holy Spirit comes to indwell that person and as we surrender to His
guidance we are sanctified.
I have heard enough and watched enough and studied enough of the catholic dogma to know what I'm talking about. I also have and am studying the
Bible and know what it says.