The War On Terrorism

Originally posted by vincere7
What we do know is that Bin Laden was very effective in creating underground movements, such as Saudi Hizballlah,...

Not bloody likely, Hizballah is a shiite organization and Osama is a sunni and quite obviously a radical one, that thinks shias are heretics.

I think we are all missing the bigger picture here and that is the fact that vincere7 has a problem with Harry Potter!!!!! He should be watched, his accounts should be frozen, he is obviously part of some kind of terrorist faction, he should be hunted down and eliminated....

That may have been a joke, however there is something to it. vincere7.. you say we should roll up on these groups, that they are formed and not forming.. that eliminate them and thus solvith the problem.

Problem, we know the groups exist... given... who's in it? Name everyone in these groups and that will be that.. ohh.. you didn't get a complete roll call of each group... well then.. we will just take out their financiers... what? you don’t know every group to finance them... hummm.

Ever heard of a hydra? Take off one head and another grows to replace it.

Yes, getting rid of the groups would be nice.. however trying to hunt down the members would result in a massive witch hunt.

It wont work.. so sorry. Unless of course you are suggesting we just kill everyone... cause as I see it.. that is the only way to be sure.

Originally posted by Simon666
Not bloody likely, Hizballah is a shiite organization and Osama is a sunni and quite obviously a radical one, that thinks shias are heretics.

Here you go: news.findlaw.com/cnn/docs/khobar/khobarindict61901.pdf

The .pdf file listed is a very good read in understanding active terror cells. This is criminal case No: 01-228-A of the Eastern District of Virginia. The United States Vs. thirteen known terrorists with 46 counts ranging from conspiracy to murder.


"From some time in the 1980's until the date of the filing of this indictment, Hizballah, or "Party of God," was the name used by a number of related terrorist organizations operating in Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Kuwait, and Bahrain amongst other places. These Hizballah organizations were inspired, supported, and directed by elements of the Iranian government. Saudi Hizballah, also known as Hizballah Al-Hijaz, was a terrorist organization that operated primarily in the kingom of Saudi Arabia, and that promoted among other things, the use of violence against nationals and property of the United States located in Saudi Arabia. Because Saudi Hizballah was an outlaw organization in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, it's members frequently met and trained in Lebanon, Syria, or Iran."

The Jihad of the 80's was aginst the Soviet Union. Saudi Arabia equally funded the CIA in this shared goal. The Jihad of the millenium is against the United States and the United Kingdom. Educate yourself,

You say "educate yourself", as if I had been wrong about something, while your link doesn't refute anything I said, rather on the contrary. Saudi Hizballah was NOT founded by Osama and it is SHIITE, as I claimed. On top of that, educate yourself about Saudi Arabia. They try to blame bombings on everyone except the muslim extremists they created themselves. Once when westerners were being bombed, they arrested several other westerners on the ridiculous charge that they were behind the bombings as part of an alcohol smuggling ring and got them to confess under the threat of torture, beheading and actions against their family. Blaming Khobar towards on a shiite group - shiites are discriminated against and oppressed in the vastly sunni Saudi Arabia - with ties to the hated Iranian regime is very convenient for the Saudi regime. Perhaps too convenient.

[edit on 22-7-2005 by Simon666]

"In order to further his terrorist acts, Laden formed the International Islamic Front for Jihad against the Jews and the Crusaders on May 28, 1998. The outfit also issued a fatwa (religious edict) proclaiming that the ‘Jehad against the heretics who conquer Muslim lands’ is a duty incumbent upon all ‘believing Muslims’. His Al-Qaeda (meaning "The Base") network is extensive and has the capability to carry out large-scale terrorist acts. The Group has three primary objectives: a) Building unity with the various Shiite Muslim terrorist outfits, including those in Iran and the Hezbollah, to cooperate against the ‘common enemy’, the US and its allies; b) US forces stationed on the Saudi peninsula, including both in Saudi Arabia and Yemen, should be attacked; and c) the US forces stationed in the Horn of Africa, including in Somalia, should be attacked. Like many other fundamentalist Islamist outfits, bin Laden’s Al Qaeda believes that Western Civilization has corrupted the Islamist community. The US is blamed for trying to destroy the Islamist nations as also the Islamist populace. Therefore, the Al Qaeda wants to create a ‘new Islamic state’ that would rule the world. Osama bin Laden is reported to maintain extensive links with a number of international terror outfits in as many as sixty countries across the world. These groups benefit from bin Laden's funding network and training camps."

This has been going on since the 80's. Hizballah was funded by Bin Laden in Saudi Arabia according to the CIA.

Originally posted by vincere7

This has been going on since the 80's. Hizballah was funded by Bin Laden in Saudi Arabia according to the CIA.

Well they should know, they created Al Qaeda. . . . . . . . mind you they lie so often that they wouldn't know if they were telling the truth. . . .

If anything the CIA would suppress knowledge of Hizballah in Saudi Arabia. The major funding for terrorist activity has come directly from Saudi Arabia. Formation of Hizballah by Bin Laden in the Kingdom is a stretch, direct funding is not. Bin Laden ran organizations, which handed out dollars to active Jihadist movements, much like the Small Business Administration. A donating Organization wsa created for this very purpose. Osamas "Islamic World Front for the struggle against the Jews and the Crusaders" (Al-Jabhah al-Islamiyyah al-`Alamiyyah li-Qital al-Yahud wal-Salibiyyin), is the Freddie Mac of terrorism.