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why Jake1997, do you claim to know the heart of a Catholic? When they profess with their mouths that they believe in Jesus Christ as son of God and saviour of all mankind, why is that good enough for God but is not good enough for you?
Originally posted by jake1997
I wont comment on an individuals relationship with Christ like that.
There are people everywhere who God calls. I have spoken to more then a few who know the contradictions of the RCC and scripture. But that is the RCC.
The same way Lot was a good man in a bad city, so too can there be good people inside a dead church.
Bethany will openly support and hold each other accountable for adhering to these principals:
Bethany will serve children and families, regardless of their cultural, racial and ethnic backgrounds.
Bethany will expand the knowledge of its board members, staff, and clients regarding cultural, racial, and ethnic diversity.
Bethany will recruit board members and hire staff who affirm the value and equality of individuals from all cultural, racial, and ethnic backgrounds.
Bethany will be culturally and racially diverse and sensitive in all its forms of communication, both internal and external.
Originally posted by jake1997
Fair enough.
In their statement they are exclusive just like Jesus Christ.
It is their GOD GIVEN DUTY to love and protect the children asigned to their care. The bible is very explicit. The RCC teachings and doctrine are contrary to scripture. Now, do they obey scripture and God...
or bow down to humanistic moral authority and the humanisitc sense of justice.
Go somewhere else. Leavem alone.
Originally posted by jake1997
What do you want them to be independant from?
Bethany’s support comes through reimbursement for services,
Originally posted by phalcon
Well being adopted myself, Let me tell you this... There is no such thing as an UNWANTED Child. Some family out there wants a child that they biologicaly cannot have for themselves, there are thousands of barent couples that want to have the joy of raising a child.
Their primary concern.... Are you a Bible Believing Chrisitian? I'll asume no because of your nickname and your comment, but correct me if I am wrong. Then you have no idea what is primary concern to a Christian.
That is for childrent to be raised in a Godly Home. If your a Christian you agree with Jesus who said "I am the way, the truth and the life" Why would you want then to put a child into a home who would raise him to contary to how the Bible would?
You say a loving and commited home, Well I seen many families, but the most loving caring I've ever seen are true Bible Believing Christian homes, so perhaps your point actualy makes mine.
Originally posted by jake1997
Show me where I said that saint4god.
I distinctly said the opposite of the words you are trying to put in my mouth.
Originally posted by jake1997
I wont comment on an individuals relationship with Christ like that.
There are people everywhere who God calls. I have spoken to more then a few who know the contradictions of the RCC and scripture. But that is the RCC.
The same way Lot was a good man in a bad city, so too can there be good people inside a dead church.
Originally posted by jake1997
Not everyone who says Lord, Lord...and casts out demons and does many good works, will see Heaven.
I would like for you to address the scripture I gave above. Its whats holding one of us back, and so its the only way to get us on the same page. No amount of highmindedness will be able to take its place.
Originally posted by saint4God
Let's get right to the heart of the matter and be candid: Do you believe that Catholics are Christian? That is to say born-again, Christ loving and believing followers of God.
Originally posted by jake1997
I wont comment on an individuals relationship with Christ like that.
There are people everywhere who God calls. I have spoken to more then a few who know the contradictions of the RCC and scripture. But that is the RCC.
The same way Lot was a good man in a bad city, so too can there be good people inside a dead church.
By what authority do you judge a church to be 'dead'...or if there is none, by what means are you making this assessment other than to say you do not agree with the Catholic methods of worship?
Do you believe Catholics read scripture on their own? Using the word 'fruitless' is not true. My friend I've known for 12 years (who is Roman Catholic) has been building houses for those who cannot afford a home, teaching young children about Christ and why Jesus is important to them. He put me down as a reference to the seminary to become a priest knowing full well I was not Catholic, in good faith that I would support him because of what I knew of him as a friend, co-worker, and volunteer, not because of religious practices. His generousity is overflowing, always helping even when I never ask. God blessed that man and continues to do so every day.
If you want to talk about fruitless, you and I can go to OUR OWN church and see those people who show up once during Resurrection Sunday and once at Christmas and call themselves students of the Word. I sure hope they study at home because it don't seem like they be gettin' much twice a year. You think they talk to others and spread the gospel? I doubt it, it's hard to talk about something you don't study. So before we start pointing fingers to places we don't go, maybe we should start fixing all the problems in the places we do go first.
Originally posted by jake1997
Not everyone who says Lord, Lord...and casts out demons and does many good works, will see Heaven.
I would like for you to address the scripture I gave above. Its whats holding one of us back, and so its the only way to get us on the same page. No amount of highmindedness will be able to take its place.
I don't see the word "Catholic" in this verse in our Bibles. You seem to be interpreting it this way. Why? Now please kindly address my scripture from Paul and Christ.
I'll have to take a discerning look at this, see if others who also have knowledge of the church discuss it, research and see if I can get back with ya on any points.
Originally posted by Relentless
So the question in my mind, especially in light of the fact that they are claiming to provide social services and in fact work with Social Services in many divisions (a publicly funded organization) do they really have the right to be exclusive on this count at all? Is this appropriate unless they are entirely privately funded and separate from all aspects of publically funded programs, services and monies? I just don't think so.
Originally posted by jake1997
Include in that research whether it is taught and condoned
for catholics to bow before images of mary and pray to her.
Originally posted by jake1997
So lets move on to your question of authority.
Originally posted by jake1997
I had taken it for granted that you were fully informed on the subject.
Originally posted by jake1997
You can look at the parable of the seeds to see where some 3:16'ers do not make it
Here's where I'm going to disagree...
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Originally posted by jake1997
that evolution is real
jews and muslims goto heaven without christ
mary is queen of heaven and watches over you,
the pope can give you a 'bye' on sin so you can celebrate
the big fesival day,
the pope is infalible
people come back from the dead and speak with you
its ok to break the commandments....
it turned into ... anyone who disagrees with the RCC
doctrine is bad' thing