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london boming staged(more mason tricks)

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posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 12:53 AM
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INFOAGENT_X,

I just posted a reply in a great thread you started. It was called: making a teror rime line using the nwo game. Now I cannot find it anywhere even using the Search function. What happened?




posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by Malkut
I just posted a reply in a great thread you started. It was called: making a teror rime line using the nwo game. Now I cannot find it anywhere even using the Search function. What happened?


It is here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also you can find any discussion you have replied in by clicking "My ATS" at the top of the page.

Now please return to the topic at hand here.


Gazz



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 01:03 AM
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Originally posted by INFOAGENT_X
i dont want a one world goverment the arab nations should stay the arab nations africa should stay africa china should stay china india should stay india. they nation they want to build is not based on the idea of other people they want one way of thinking and being. as long as nations have enemies you have freedom. but think of a nation with no worriies.

only devil worshippers could love a one world them and people who worship ufos. but ufos did not make man they are just part of the mason plot


I just can't wrap my head around that twisted logic...

So, you're saying that for mankind to be able to exist in peace, as one nation (or one planet) we would all have to be satan worshipers? Wow, your God is a pussy, a weakling, a nobody, an impotent spineless worm. But wait a second... didn't your God create Satan and from him evil was spawned? How do you explain that the devil, according to your logic, is all powerful while the God that created him is such a powerless weenie?

But on to ufos... You're saying that the idea of extraterrestrial life is something made up by the Masons to deceive you? Gosh, can I rationalize this for a minute?

Our planet orbits a star called the Sun, our Sun is one star that orbits 28,000 lightyears from the center of a galaxy called the Milky Way. In the Milky Way, there are somewhere around 400,000,000,000 (400 billion) stars give or take 100 billion [some astronomers say there are over a trillion stars in the Milky Way, but I'll stay with a conservative 400 billion]. Our galaxy is one galaxy in many many billions (so far we, humans, have surveyed over 100,000 different galaxies and hope to survey over 250,000 by 2008). It's actually estimated that there are over 200 billion galaxies in the observable universe. But these are emmense numbers, and pretty much impossible to imagine. Let me put it in somewhat of a more fathomable number for you. Image you are on a beach and you pick up a handful of sand. How many grains of sand are in your hand? 50,000? 250,000? A lot anyway right? Well, the number of stars in the universe is larger than the number of every grain of sand on the planet Earth. (A big number isn't it...) What are the odds of our planet, which orbits our Sun -- one star in 8,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 -- being the only planet to have life? You have a better chance of winning every lottery in the world for the next 60 years, every draw.

You think I'm making this up? Or you think there is some grand conspiracy around the world to fool the planet into thinking we are but a tiny little globe among an uncountable number of stars? Well perhaps this might enlighten you a bit. An image from the Hubble telescope of the Whirlpool Galaxy (M51) and companion galaxy. (source) After viewing this one galaxy, and taking in the number of visible stars in this image, try to imagine 400 billion of these galaxies containing this many, or more, stars...


Click this image to view a HUGE version (11477x7965 106.64MB)
Or click this link to view an uncompressed TIFF of the same (large) image.

WARNING: You will need at least 256MB of free RAM (that is not being used by another application) to view these larger images. If you can't view the above HUGE images, here is a much smaller version. (1280x1024 90dpi)

You think the Free Masons have fabricated the idea of there being life in the universe other than what's on our own puny little planet just to fulfill some hidden "evil" agenda? I'd have to say the odds of that being realistic are over one in eight million billion billion...


And by the way? Africa is a CONTINENT with 54 countries, over 1,000 languages, and over 797 million people... welcome to the 21st century hope you'll look around and see what we have to offer!


"I have detailed information about the
situation . . . which completely proves that
what they allege are illusions . . .
They lie every day."


[edit on 17-7-2005 by CatHerder]



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 02:23 AM
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Hey everybody, I have an idea. From now on, why don't we ignore all of the posts by people who have spelling and grammar mistakes in their posts. I understand that not everybody here is a native English speaker, but is it not reasonable to assume if the person making the post is not intelligent enough to use "spell check" then they probably don't know what the heck they are talking about in general? Just a thought.



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 04:12 AM
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Originally posted by craig732
Hey everybody, I have an idea. From now on, why don't we ignore all of the posts by people who have spelling and grammar mistakes in their posts. I understand that not everybody here is a native English speaker, but is it not reasonable to assume if the person making the post is not intelligent enough to use "spell check" then they probably don't know what the heck they are talking about in general? Just a thought.


I consistantly make spelling and grammer mistakes in my posts, mainly because of my eagerness to bash the thing out and send it in a hurry, hitting the keys in the wrong order, etc.
And some people actually have a problem in writing what they want to say and have spelling difficulties (maybe dyslexia?), it doesn't mean that they have nothing useful to say.
Do you intend to ignore my posts, as often I make mistakes?
I also notice you have made an awesome 14 posts on the boards, and as at least 1 of them is the above insult, you obviously havn't contributed much yourself.

Looking at your posts:


That is the most intelligent, realistic writing I have ever seen regarding time travel. Anyone who knows about quantam physics knows this makes perfect sense and explains alot if not all of the pardox issues associated with time travel.


Should that be 'a lot' and 'paradox'?

Try to live up to your own, high, standards - yes?


Oh - and while we're on the subject where is the stupid spellcheck feature, because I can never find it?

[edit on 17-7-2005 by AgentSmith]



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 04:43 AM
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Well I live in London and am sure it was a bunch of toerag Muslim lunatics that bombed us.

OK so there might be a chance that it was the Masons, the CIA, aliens or even a little-known terrorist group headed by George Bush and OJ Simpson........ but I suspect the real Muslim culprits are laughing their asses off while many of us run around cooking up ridiculous conspiracy theories.



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by Moley
Well I live in London and am sure it was a bunch of toerag Muslim lunatics that bombed us.

OK so there might be a chance that it was the Masons, the CIA, aliens or even a little-known terrorist group headed by George Bush and OJ Simpson........ but I suspect the real Muslim culprits are laughing their asses off while many of us run around cooking up ridiculous conspiracy theories.



Precisely, pretty much what I said in one of my threads.. If people are so willing to consider or even accept wild conspiracy theories, why do they have such a huge problem accepting that it might just be what everyone is saying it is. Even when presented with pretty much conclusive proof and eye-witness testimonies, some people still choose not to listen to anything other than what they want to believe, even though no-one with any credability is actually presenting any evidence for these wild theories.


dh

posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 08:06 AM
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Originally posted by billybob
is this demolition company strictly staffed or owned by masons?



Ownership by Masons would seem most likely
The term Kingstar will almost certainly be a 30 degree plus usage
The reference is obviously pointing to the barely disguised pentagram of the logo.
The threads author quite rightly refers to a masonic signature.
The whole purpose of the photo is to put in our face - everything in plain view, but most people can't see it

Did it have a role? Perhaps a remote triggering mechanism was being carried

[edit on 17-7-2005 by dh]



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 08:19 AM
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It's just a five sided star, so what? MOst stars are depicted as 5 sided in a lot of designs. The company is called 'Kingstar' after all.

Also someone mentioned that Kingstar don't use explosives for demolitions, well looking at the website I wholeheartedly agree, they do not appear to use explosives in their work, quite the opposite in fact. Can anyone point us to something on the site that contradicts this?

I found this in their Yahoo listing:


Kingstar - provides concrete and stone structure demolition using diamond drilling, concrete bursting and crunching, wall and floor sawing.

uk.dir.yahoo.com...



Kingstar, www.kingstar.co.uk... Kingstar specialise in the diamond drilling and sawing of concrete. Two employees were awarded the first ever National Vocational Qualifications (NVQ) in diamond drilling and sawing in July 2001. Kingstar has registered 34 candidates on the On-Site Assessment and Training (OSAT) NVQ course, all of whom are at various stages in the process of achieving the full award. and sawing today. The award represents an important addition to the range of construction NVQs.

www.citb.co.uk...

Nothing conclusively points to demolition using explosives and in fact seems to point to controlled demolitions using strategic drilling.

[edit on 17-7-2005 by AgentSmith]


dh

posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 09:52 AM
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I'll concede you on the explosives bit - that needs a bit more thought

However, in occult circles the Kings Star is often the name given to the Star of David or hexagram
Yet here the logo is of the five pointed star or pentagram, more usually seen in outline



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 10:03 AM
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I see your point, it may be just down to them prefering the look of the five sided star, it is more commonly used I think. But what you are saying is interesting none the less.

But as they don't appear to have any connection with explosives, then it really isn't even a coincidence, as they are about as relevent as the taxi.



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 10:39 AM
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One look at this whole ATS category today, and you'll see that the muslim appeasers and disinformation people are out in force to try and divert the naive and foolish from the facts.



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by Moley
Well I live in London and am sure it was a bunch of toerag Muslim lunatics that bombed us.

OK so there might be a chance that it was the Masons, the CIA, aliens or even a little-known terrorist group headed by George Bush and OJ Simpson........ but I suspect the real Muslim culprits are laughing their asses off while many of us run around cooking up ridiculous conspiracy theories.



i thought the 'muslim culprits' exploded their arses off, no? isn't that the archetype?

i suspect that madame blavansky's infamous theosophical society was right across the street from king's cross. the bombs were planned to scorch the earth in a cross pattern, ala KKK burning cross. apparently there is a grand lodge nearby as well. also the heart of british secret police mind control(you tell me, M16? M'n'M?) is nearby.
the news reports initially reported SEVEN bombs(five for the post, and two for the crossbar). how could they make they mistake, unless they were expecting seven? 'spaceman' gary bell guesses there were unexpected problems with the alleged undetonated bombs. a 'king's cross' is supposedly what they call the burning cross.
this was spoken by spaceman gary bell, and i am just repeating/reporting it. i don't believe anything until i figure it out for myself.
he also said that albert pike is the only confederate to have had a statue erected by the government, after the civil war. it IS wierd to erect a statue of your defeated enemy, isn't it? this is supposedly relevent because pike founded the KKK.
even the astronomical statistic in my signature is debatable. you could probably bring it down to like a trillion to one chance, if you factor in other influences. still, the chances of a terror drill and an actual terror attack coinciding on the same morning are close to nil. WAAAAYYYYY close to nil.
the question is, where is the hidden hand? well hidden, fer sure. hidden by mainstream truth pollution.

[edit on 17-7-2005 by billybob]



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 11:00 AM
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an interesting find but I think you've got it wrong. I am guessing that van is there to investigate explosions et cetera and the mechanics of the explosion impact on the bus. There's no way they would've left an explosion van with the company name clearly printed, right next to the thing they demolished.



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by sugeshotcha
an interesting find but I think you've got it wrong. I am guessing that van is there to investigate explosions et cetera and the mechanics of the explosion impact on the bus. There's no way they would've left an explosion van with the company name clearly printed, right next to the thing they demolished.


It chokes me to say this, as I'm defending it's being there, but that photo was taken literally a few seconds after the explosion.

But like I've showed - they don't deal with explosives! they are experts in demolitions without explosives. They are as relevent as the taxi.
Why doesn't someone ring them tomorrow and ask them emm?



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 01:07 PM
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The van was driving past as the bomb went off - obvious from the two pics, its position in the traffic.

The idea that the firm employed by the NWO to explode bombs in London just happens to be driving past in the opposite direction as the bomb goes past is utterly ridiculous.



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 01:32 PM
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why do people keep trying to point out the company dont handle explosive when it clearly says on there site.

Kingstar can advise on and undertake(key word) any(key word) aspect of controlled demolition and/or dismantling.

The reason why the Muslim doing the bombing don’t add up is because why has no one taken responsibility as they always do. Why blow things up and not tell. What would be the point? And then the fake claim of responsibility. Why did they not arrest the person behind it they said the site traced back to Texas use? They blamed the Muslims before it even happen and they showed no proof to the people but racist will say yes I know it was them Muslims.

they said 10 pounds of explosives do you know how small that is why the hell would a Arab carry a big ass bag rising his chance of getting caught when he could have had a way smaller bag. The facts don’t add up to smart people.

there story is falling apart

they said they found time bombs who sits with time bombs
www.abc.net.au...
Citing the results of the first 24 hours of inquiries, Andy Hayman, a senior police officer, said the four bombs each contained less than 10 pounds of "high explosive," and that the bombs on the three trains were left on the floors of the cars where they exploded, around 100 yards from the stations at King's Cross, Liverpool Street and Edgware Road.
www.kentucky.com..../mld/heraldleader/news/world/12091307.htm

the so called master mind with links to al-Qaeda now turns out they was grabbing at straws
news.bbc.co.uk...
he has no links



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 01:46 PM
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motive?

wasn't britain about to withdraw all troops from iraq? so, why would these 'terrorists' do something to guarantee that that wouldn't happen? it's bass ackwards.

let's hope we can do a controlled demolition on ignorance and lies.



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by INFOAGENT_X
why do people keep trying to point out the company dont handle explosive when it clearly says on there site.

Kingstar can advise on and undertake(key word) any(key word) aspect of controlled demolition and/or dismantling.




Perhaps you should have read more than one page of the Kingstar site.

Or hell, even read the whole paragraph.
www.kingstar.co.uk...


Demolition in areas where minimal disruption and minimal noise requirements are paramount. Using any combination of our specialist operations Kingstar can advise on and undertake any aspect of controlled demolition and/or dismantling.



Minimal noise is not controlled explosive demolition. No where do you find references to explosions. The picture even shows them demolishing with a crane.

Here's the rest of their services.

www.kingstar.co.uk...

They are actually a company you call when you don't want to use explosives.

That truck was probably full of drills and saws as concrete removal seems a big part of their business.

www.kingstar.co.uk...

As to the probability of a drill taking place at the same time and location of a terror attack.

You do know that this was during the G8 summit. It seems that at such times they probably run different drills everyday. If a target is obvious then of course they will run a drill for it.

I still don't see the conspiracy.

Do I believe that the "secret al queda of europe" did it? No.

Al-queda doesn't usually claim responsibility. They almost always use multiple attacks at the same time, so it does look like the work of Al-queda regardless of who claims it.

edit: If your not going to post any evidence of mason involvement can you take the mason tricks out of the title, it makes no sense.

[edit on 17-7-2005 by LeftBehind]



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 02:30 PM
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dismantling is not controlled demolition are you telling me they know nothing about explosives. look if i was to say i know 100% i would be a fool. (much like bush and blair) the info is being looked into by others and i would advise the people to investigate this point. but there are many loop holes in the story told to us by a dummy(blair). but telling me a top company like this would not know how to use explosives is plan crazy.

the word any do you know what that word means




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