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Originally posted by Dallas
So many debunkers and skeptics mixed into the pot of believers. I can handle the skeptics as they seem to lack the knowledge of the UFO/EBE Subject, through lack of homework.
for Debunkers or and Phys Friedman puts it: 'Noisy Negativists', they are the negative group composed of people either closed minded or working for an Agency who still thinks they can still convince the public that all people are crazy if they see little green men or flying saucers.
Debunkers are extreme, either they know at lot more than the average researcher about UFO/EBEs or know nothing....cause their lazy and don't do any research.
Originally posted by Netchicken
You saw something that you didn't understand. Some machine / event that did not fit your preconceptions of what should happen.
From that you infer that aliens from another planet created the machine?
Just how logical is that?
You have put your cultural belief as an answer to something you don't understand. Just like a stoneage person would consider a radio to be "majic". Or a TV to be "witchcraft".
You have tried to pull some mythos to explain an event or technology you don't understand.
If I was there with you and said it was Zeus in his flaming chariot, or an Angel, or Ra the sun god, you would think I was a nut, but those suggestions are just as valid as yours. There is nothing at all to back up your experience as being make by beings from another planet. Did they wave a tentacle at you out the window as they went by?
Just look at this logically.
We can't even get guys to the moon, yet we are prepared to accept that beings travel multi light-years and then crash on our puny planet?
Can you really consider the technology that is required to do that? That is so far beyond our ability to do that its out in our distant future. yet you accept it as real without really considering the implications of that belief.
If beings can do that, then they are so far advanced from us to be like we are to chimpansees. What the heck do they need from us that hey can't get without us even knowing? Why do they seem to have such human faults, for beings that must be almost beyond our comprehension.
Really science fiction books and TV have reduced down to the common and acceptable something that is immensly difficult and advanced. Lets get the level of debate out of the realm of TV and cultural literature and try and be more objective about it.
Doesn't it suprise people that the aliens always have 2 arms, 2 legs, and one head?
The human figure is hardly the best in the universe, some tentacles, extra legs, etc would be really handy. Why does no one say they encountered something that looks like a being with a non human shape, even the reptilians strangly resemble humans in crocodile suits.
Arn't people suprised that these beings also can breathe our atmosphere, easily handle our gravity, are not poisoned by anything in our environment?
Come on, really, beings fly across the universe to a planet that happens to suit them down to the ground? Whats the odds of that?
This is not an episode from Star trek.
Your concepts / ideas / imagination are formed from watching TV, just consider all the posts from people who consider stargate to be real.
People are unable to seperate reality from fiction, their concept of what is real is formed by what they see on the television. You are as much trapped in your cultural beliefs as a devout Hindu is accepting his pantheon of gods.
Aliens are your gods, the gods, of the secular 21st century that has forgone its cultural roots and created its own mythos. Like other cultures gods, they are here to save you, to control you, to help you, to enslave you.
The same thread topics here are the same concepts a Hindu would talk about with his / her gods, and like you they would deny that they are fictions.
[edit on 18-7-2005 by Netchicken]
stop looking for proof, theres no such thing
Originally posted by T_Jesus
I'm a non believer - why? If there is one thing our government is horrible at, it's keeping a secret. What is the one thing the media loves to do? Blow things like secrets up to mammoth proportions. You all watch the news, you should know this.
It's not ignorance or fear - it's just that if the government knew, I'd probably know too. Especially something as huge as finding another intelligent life (which obviously does exist, somewhere).
Originally posted by Dallas
Doesn't make me right but it suggests I'm fair.