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U.S Troop saves life of terrorist who tried to kill him! (+Video)

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posted on Apr, 22 2006 @ 04:25 PM
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How again is a citizen fighting an illegal invasion of his country deemed a terrorist?

I seemed to have missed that meeting.




posted on Apr, 22 2006 @ 10:15 PM
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[edit on 23-4-2006 by Big_BIRD]



posted on Apr, 23 2006 @ 12:27 AM
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So he saved the guys life for what to throw him in a torture camp.

these terrorists are not terrorists they are freedom fighters and they will never forgive the US for raping their nation and people. Can I blame a suicide bomber when he kills a few marines not really. though i do not support killing anyone if i were in the situation some of these people were put in when the bombs dropped and killed their families etc. You can expect they will fight back. most of these guys have nothing to loose and do not fear death so they fight. How can you beat that. over half of the Iraqis think it's ok to kill marines and it is at the point where if i were in charge i would withdrawl my guys.



posted on Apr, 23 2006 @ 01:53 AM
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I didn't know army times was now showing Resistance propoganda videos

HA HA HA!

Thanks Enemy
!


pity he didn't die in the video. But who knows what really happened later right, maybe he bleeds to death.... Perhaps he should have let the medics of the resistance take a look at him.

They do follow the Geneva conventions after all.

Iraqi snipers are the best, is there anyway to get this video unstreamed?

I'll bet there is a resistance website somewhere that these ridiculous goons swiped it from, i'll find it.

If anyone wants more Resistance sniper videos, i've got the mother load



[edit on 23-4-2006 by Syrian Sister]



posted on Apr, 23 2006 @ 02:02 AM
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How again is a citizen fighting an illegal invasion of his country deemed a terrorist?

I seemed to have missed that meeting.


You can say that again!

You have voted AccidentallyOnPurpose for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month.

[edit on 23-4-2006 by Syrian Sister]



posted on Apr, 23 2006 @ 02:32 AM
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Originally posted by Boatphone
This shows what great and awesome troops we have! God bless them!

While standing by his hummer a U.S. troop was hit in the chest with sniper fire. Later he tracked down the injured sniper and gave him medical aid.


Sorry Boatphone but the video does not show what is claimed.Sure the soldier coped one,but tracking down the sniper and treating his injuries?

Some on this thread are calling this soldier a hero?if the sniper was injured it was probably by an inaccurate fatal shot to begin with,unless the US troops are trained to only wound people who shoot at them?.

Is he a hero for not finishing him off? is that how a hero is defined by Americans?or is it simply just because of the amount of bad press people want to jump at something or anything positive?

Propaganda, and i would not even say "at its finest"



posted on Apr, 23 2006 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Syrian Sister

pity he didn't die in the video. But who knows what really happened later right, maybe he bleeds to death.... Perhaps he should have let the medics of the resistance take a look at him.



[edit on 23-4-2006 by Syrian Sister]


damn that has got to the lowest comment ive read from you...you actually were disappointed when u didnt see the soilder die who was doing nothing wrong...aside form being in the wrong place at the wrong time...what a geat human being u are



posted on Apr, 23 2006 @ 06:01 PM
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To be fair it is the soldiers job to give out medical aid. He is being praised for not killing someone what is the world coming to!



posted on Apr, 23 2006 @ 06:04 PM
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aside form being in the wrong place at the wrong time...what a geat human being u are


What that implies is that he went to bed one night and woke up on groundhogs day in Iraq in an army uniform, only he was a pompous jerk who didn't really beleive in the groundhog, so as a punishment he was confined to repeating his days and killing innocent civilians untill he became a better human being or mastered the piano.

P.S - I would love to hear your definition of a great human being.

Difficulty - Do not use the word terrorism, al qaeda or saddam in the answer. Thanks


[edit on 23-4-2006 by AccidentallyOnPurpose]



posted on Apr, 23 2006 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by AccidentallyOnPurpose
What that implies is that he went to bed one night and woke up on groundhogs day in Iraq in an army uniform, only he was a pompous jerk who didn't really beleive in the groundhog, so as a punishment he was confined to repeating his days and killing innocent civilians untill he became a better human being or mastered the piano.

P.S - I would love to hear your definition of a great human being.

Difficulty - Do not use the word terrorism, al qaeda or saddam in the answer. Thanks


Youre avatar answers exactly what I think of youre post. But I will go into abit more detail. You make your views pretty clear. But to defend SS's statement that its a "pity" he didnt die is over the line. A soldier does his job no matter what. Carry's out orders. Though I understand that "I was just following orders" does not excuse to any bad behavior. But you assume that US and Coalition troops get their jolleys from hurting and killing civilians. I'm sure a few do but you seem to be in the "all US troops are baby killers camp." Would I be wrong in that assumption?



posted on Apr, 23 2006 @ 09:06 PM
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Well, even though I do not what so ever share the enthusiasm and joy that Syrian Sister gets from seeing someone getting shot, I my self did not see anything on that video other then a propaganda clip/payment proof.

They way it is usually done, if the attacker was taken down, and a video of the attack was confiscated, the weapon used in the attack should have been recovered as well.

It a video of the attack can be posted to solidify the merit of the reported story, why not a post a picture of the recovered weapon?

That's the way it has always been done is all armies/media sources.

Because if it was not done, every private will be coming back to base with stories of how he all by him self defeated 30 enemies with his bare hands, all while he was on the water delivery detail, and as proof he brought back a single show because he was so ferocious that it's all that is left.


Simple; score a kill - show a weapon = you're the man.

Where's the trophy rifle?

[edit on 23-4-2006 by iskander]



posted on Apr, 23 2006 @ 09:36 PM
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damn that has got to the lowest comment ive read from you...you actually were disappointed when u didnt see the soilder die who was doing nothing wrong...aside form being in the wrong place at the wrong time...what a geat human being u are


Usually the mistake of being in a soldier in someone elses country at the time where you are at war with them is a mistake deserving of death.

Isn't that like, the status quo?


What that implies is that he went to bed one night and woke up on groundhogs day in Iraq in an army uniform, only he was a pompous jerk who didn't really beleive in the groundhog, so as a punishment he was confined to repeating his days and killing innocent civilians untill he became a better human being or mastered the piano.


Both funny and true.

And EVERYONE.
just for the record, i don't care particularly if he dies or not, i just care if he is injured or dead enough not to keep fighting and killing.

If he was injured and captured i too would have provided him with medical attention.

[edit on 23-4-2006 by Syrian Sister]



posted on Apr, 23 2006 @ 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by Syrian Sister

And EVERYONE.
just for the record, i don't care particularly if he dies or not, i just care if he is injured or dead enough not to keep fighting and killing.

If he was injured and captured i too would have provided him with medical attention.


LOL, judging by your comments of course you would
I haven't seen the Iraqi terrorists providing medical aid to anyone



posted on Apr, 23 2006 @ 10:27 PM
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So what's up with the sniper rifle?

Does anybody know?

I've seen a lot of guerrilla war/opps footage, and there is always a weapon to be found and delivered as proof of mission sucsess.

No weapon + bodies = dead civilians, which will in turn require some daisy story if it goes public.

Same crapp over and over.

Where's the damn weapon?

[edit on 24-4-2006 by ADVISOR]



posted on Apr, 23 2006 @ 10:36 PM
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Let me make my self clear.

When a troop gets shot by a sniper, survives and then takes the sniper down, he's a mofo King Kong and I don't care which army he is serving in.

When stuff like this goes down, the pictures shown by the media are of the troop holding the weapon which the enemy used to almost killed him with, and not some smiley portrait you send back to your folks at home.



posted on Apr, 23 2006 @ 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by iskander
So what's up with the sniper rifle?

Does anybody know?

I've seen a lot of guerrilla war/opps footage, and there is always a weapon to be found and delivered as proof of mission sucsess.

Where's the damn weapon?


It was an Iraqi video,so i dont suspect there will ever be footage of the end result.

I would however like a translation of the comments of the Iraqi in the video,maybe Syrian Sister could help?



posted on Apr, 23 2006 @ 11:54 PM
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It was an Iraqi video,so i dont suspect there will ever be footage of the end result.


Nope, does work that way. Yes, it was obviously an Iraqi clip, Allah Akbar chanting made it pretty clear.

What is not clear, how do US forces make arrests then? Bare suspicion? No need to find weapons, detonators, etc.

What, they can just pick up whom ever them want, call them a terrorist and take'em down?

Does not work like that, so if this story is factual, a weapon HAD to be recovered in order to make +ID on the shooter.

And no, forensics are not necessary here. No need for fingerprinting of DNA analysis. A shooter is a shooter. Hands, shoulder, finger pads, etc. Show me your hands and I will tell you if you shoot, and what you shoot.

You take a 140lb man and put him to a 7.62X51 SVD, and very shortly after you'll be able to figure him out at the bazaar.

So if by that story they have arrested a shooter, #1 what was he shooting? It can't be 7.62X51, because judging by the shake, the camcorder taped at about what 8X? The vest took the round.

The shot came from a confined environment of low elevation, (car?), the casing bounced, so judging by report that leaves SKS/AK which the vest will take. So where is it? That fresh smelling one, the one that just popped a round?

So you know what, as long as there is no gun, there is no story, simple as that.



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 12:46 AM
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Syrian Sister, let's make a deal. If you promise to refrain from cries for blood at least on ATS forums, I'll tell you how to save a stream.

The files size is 1935KB.

Here is what I saw in the video.

The shooter is young and inexperienced. Shot to troop going down is about 1/3 of a second, which is actually less given the human response time to impact.

Accurately shooting a run of the mill AK in single shot mode beyond 300m is not a possibility, and 200 meters is just about there for a good hit.

While the troop obviously wore armor, the shot was not put in a soft spot, and went to the troops left shoulder, which is a typical pattern for a inexperienced right handed shooter at those distances.

Depending on distance, a typical 3 round burst mode from AK is aimed at the targets right knee. Recoil and sway from the ejector bring the consecutive shot up and to the right.

Experienced shooter always brings his shots from down/up, not the other way around, while inexperienced shooter always shots much higher, and at night it's even worse. Just about everybody is practically aiming for the moon.

A single non AP 7.62X39 round shot at a target wearing armor should be put in the hip/crutch area. The round will shatter the pelvis and the bone splinters will cause massive internal bleeding/hemorrhaging.

The shot at the crutch will again cause massive bleeding, and if the medical attention is not close the troop will just bleed out in matter of minutes.

A non AP 5.45X39 round can be placed high, in the shoulder/neck area, because the it does go through ALL Kevlar just as easily as 5.56, and unless it is stopped by a plate, it will kill.

So to conclude, those guys were armatures, and I can only be proud of the fact that in this case body armor saved that troops life.



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 06:57 AM
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Youre avatar answers exactly what I think of youre post.


And your nickname is exactly what I think of your rebuttal. Just Kidding.

It all comes down to one's angle of view. You see the soldiers as people who were lied to and sent to invade a sovereign nation and since they are now there they should be backed up unconditionally, everything they do is justified or even at times "heroic".

I on the other hand think that if they were truly heroes they would have had a little common sense, put 2 and 2 together and should have opposed this false war to begin with.

The Iraqi people who are termed terrorists are no more than freedom fighters fighting an alien invasion, fighting for their land, fighting for their homes and their families. Just like the forefathers of the current invading army did. Now they were heroes.

If you were to go back in time and the Iraqi "terrorist" was an American freedom fighter and the US soldier was one from the British army, what would have been your response then.



posted on Apr, 24 2006 @ 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by TRUTH Ambassador

Hey INFOAGENT_X this is a thread about a story of real U.S. soldier HERO. Dont be saying he isn't just because he isn't dooing what you want.


Hero? He got shot in the chest ran like a girl and hid, there is no evidence of him finding/shooting/treating the resistance members who carried out this attack its just more lies coming out of the US.

I dont know how you can call your soldiers heros when they are being beaten constantly by lightly armed civilians using outdated weaponry and improvised bombs while you have the best technology in the world. At least this soldier was brave enough to get out of his hummer tho, most the US army are cowardly murderers who would rather kill children and woman classing it as collateral damage then actually put their feet on the ground to save innocence.



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