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If anyone in this administration was involved in it, they would no longer be in this administration.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
Clifford May from The National Review now says that in fact it was Joe Wilson through David Corn of the liberal rag The Nation who really leaked the confidential information concerning Plame:
Originally posted by Kidfinger
Actually, the real problem is being swept under the rug with all the symantics and rhetoric going on about the Rove debacle. The fact is, Bush said he would fire the person responsible for leaking the info. Rove is still employed so it appears that Bush has succeded in lying to the American public and got away with it agian.
[edit on 7/15/05 by Kidfinger]
Originally posted by GrndLkNatv
How could it be true, who had the clearance to know? Rove or regular citizens.. Only an idiot would believe this story.
WASHINGTON - After mentioning a CIA operative to a reporter, Bush confidant Karl Rove alerted the president's No. 2 security adviser about the interview and said he tried to steer the journalist away from allegations the operative's husband was making about faulty Iraq intelligence.
The July 11, 2003, e-mail between Rove and then-Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley is the first showing an intelligence official knew Rove had talked to Matthew Cooper just days before the Time magazine reporter divulged CIA officer Valerie Plame's secret identity.
"I didn't take the bait," Rove wrote in an e-mail obtained by The Associated Press, recounting how Cooper tried to question him about whether President Bush had been hurt by the new allegations.
The White House turned the e-mail over to prosecutors, and Rove testified to a grand jury about it last year.
Earlier in the week before the e-mail, Plame's husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, had written a newspaper opinion piece accusing the Bush administration of twisting prewar intelligence, including a "highly doubtful" report that Iraq bought nuclear materials from Niger.
"Matt Cooper called to give me a heads-up that he's got a welfare reform story coming," Rove wrote in the e-mail to Hadley.
"When he finished his brief heads-up he immediately launched into Niger. Isn't this damaging? Hasn't the president been hurt? I didn't take the bait, but I said if I were him I wouldn't get Time far out in front on this."
The AP reported Thursday that Rove acknowledged to the grand jury that he talked about Plame with both Cooper and Novak before they published their stories but that he originally learned about the operative's identity from the news media, not government sources.
Republicans cheered the latest revelations Friday, saying they showed Rove wasn't trying to hurt Plame but instead was trying to informally warn reporters to be cautious about some of Wilson's claims.
"What it says is, Karl Rove wasn't the leaker, he was actually the recipient of the information not the provider," Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman said on Fox News. "So there are probably a lot of folks in Washington who have prejudged this, who have rushed to judgment who are trying to smear Karl Rove."
Democrats, however, said that even if Rove wasn't the leaker, someone still divulged Plame's identity and possibly violated the law.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
Actually if anyone committed treason, it was Joseph Wilson who went to Niger and didn't do due dilligence in checking out the claims and submitted a false report back to the United States government, thereby giving aid and comfort to the Saddam Hussein regime.
[edit on 7/15/2005 by djohnsto77]
Novak, in an interview, said his sources had come to him with the information. "I didn't dig it out, it was given to me," he said. "They thought it was significant, they gave me the name and I used it."
Originally posted by Carseller4
The Rove story is about as "Big" as the fake Downing Street Memo.
Jeesh it is now being reported that all of Plame's neighbors knew she worked for the CIA.
Bush, Delay, Rove...who is next on the Democrat Hitlist?
After the "fake Bush National Guard documents" the "fake Downing Street Memo" and now the "fake "undercover" CIA agent." You would figure that the Democrats have learned their lesson, but no...they will attack someone else in the very near future, most likely Bush's Supreme Court nominee. I wonder what fake document they will produce on that person?
Originally posted by koji_K
Could you expound on this? What report are you talking about? Wilson reported that claims of Iraq's attempt to purchase yellowcake from Niger were false, and it is generally accepted now that this was the case. The documents suggesting otherwise, which Wilson was sent to Niger to investigate, were themselves fabricated by dubious intelligence sources recruited by the OSP (namely, the one codenamed "curveball"). I know of no other evidence suggesting that Wilson did his job in Niger, and did it well.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
And there's a difference between 'working for the CIA' and being an undercover operative for the CIA. Of course people knew she worked at the CIA in the WMD division. She was also an agent. That's the secret part.
Originally posted by Delta 38
If she was not undercover and her cover was not blown then why did the director of the CIA, not an evil liberal by the way, ask the Attorney General's office to investigate it?
(4) The term “covert agent” means—
(A) a present or retired officer or employee of an intelligence agency or a present or retired member of the Armed Forces assigned to duty with an intelligence agency—
(i) whose identity as such an officer, employee, or member is classified information, and
(ii) who is serving outside the United States or has within the last five years served outside the United States; or
(B) a United States citizen whose intelligence relationship to the United States is classified information, and—
(i) who resides and acts outside the United States as an agent of, or informant or source of operational assistance to, an intelligence agency, or
(ii) who is at the time of the disclosure acting as an agent of, or informant to, the foreign counterintelligence or foreign counterterrorism components of the Federal Bureau of Investigation; or
(C) an individual, other than a United States citizen, whose past or present intelligence relationship to the United States is classified information and who is a present or former agent of, or a present or former informant or source of operational assistance to, an intelligence agency.
Originally posted by ferretman
1. Valerie Plume was working a desk job at the CIA at the time this came about.
2. Her husand has admitted that it was already publicly known that she worked for the CIA.
3. Valerie Plump was finished working any uncover operations for quite some time.
4. That reporters informed/mentioned to Rove about Valerie Plume about her being a CIA operative.
Originally posted by Loki
Please tell me what the **** John Kerry has to do with this?
Stop dodging the issue for Rove.
We're all adults here, and one of the things
that come with adulthood is responsibility.
It makes me sick, you all sound like children.
Yeah, well you got caught.
Now it's time to be punished.