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reply posted on 15-7-2005 @ 05:23 AM by djohnsto77
No one committed treason here, the only question is whether the Covert Agent Identity Protection Act was ever broken, and it appears on levels that it wasn't.

edit:

Actually if anyone committed treason, it was Joseph Wilson who went to Niger and didn't do due dilligence in checking out the claims and submitted a false report back to the United States government, thereby giving aid and comfort to the Saddam Hussein regime.

[edit on 7/15/2005 by djohnsto77]



reply posted on 15-7-2005 @ 09:05 AM by Loki
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Rove learned the identity from journalists.
Seems the hubby of the CIA agent had loose lips
and told everyone as well. (LOTS of previous
discussion and stories about that!!)
So, a journalist told Rove about this 'non kept secret'
and the left is calling for Rove to be flogged, then what
should we do with John Kerry for doing WORSE????

www.newsmax.com...




Please tell me what the **** John Kerry has to do with this?

Stop dodging the issue for Rove. We're all adults here, and one of the things that come with adulthood is responsibility. It makes me sick, you all sound like children.

"Oh, he did it first".

Yeah, well you got caught. Now it's time to be punished.

****edited out censored word

[edit on 15-7-2005 by DontTreadOnMe]



^THIS.^

I don't like being censored, but ATS has built in censors, I'd appreciate it if my posts were otherwise unaltered from here on in. Thanks for the cooperation.

[edit on 7-15-2005 by Loki]


reply posted on 15-7-2005 @ 09:53 AM by Jehosephat
There are two parts to this issue. First, revealing the identiity of a covert CIA operative, which is treason. Secondly the white house PUBLICALLY stating that anyone in the white house invovled in this would be "dismissed/fired from the white house"

in a
September 30, 2003 press breifing this was said:

Q: Scott, has anyone -- has the president tried to find out who outed the CIA agent? And has he fired anyone in the White House yet?

McCLELLAN: Well, Helen, that's assuming a lot of things. First of all, that is not the way this White House operates. The president expects everyone in his administration to adhere to the highest standards of conduct. No one would be authorized to do such a thing.

[...]

McCLELLAN: The president has set high standards, the highest of standards for people in his administration. He's made it very clear to people in his administration that he expects them to adhere to the highest standards of conduct. If anyone in this administration was involved in it, they would no longer be in this administration.


If Rove was not involved, why doesn't the White house say so instead of having Scott "I lie for a living" McCellen say nothing but "There is an ongoing investigation". Not to metion they havn't even bothered to revoke Rove's security clearance.

This is a classic cover-up, they were successful in delaying the investicgation til after the election, but now the white house is in full damage control and spin mode on this matter

If Rove found out this information 2nd hand from reporters why didn't the white house do anything to try and track down this information leak? Regardless wherever that leak came from it has to be tracked down and verified, and they need to find out who had knowledge, and leaked the info to someone who was not suppose to know that Plame was a covert CIA operative.

found an interesting jem over Wayne Madsen Report

A knowledgeable CIA source has confirmed that Valerie Plame Wilson was a covert non-official cover (NOC) up until the day she was outed by Robert Novak -- July 14, 2003. Actually, Novak's syndicated column was on the Creators Syndicate wire and Plame's identity was known to news editors across the country at least a day before it appeared in print. Contrary to what the RNC, the White House, and Republicans in Congress are spinning, Vice President Cheney asked a CIA briefer during the July 6 President's Daily Brief about Wilson's OP-ED in the New York Times that appeared that morning about the envoy's trip to Niger on behalf of the CIA. When pressed, the briefer mentioned to Cheney that Wilson's wife worked for the agency's Counter-Proliferation Division (CPD). CIA insiders are reporting that upon hearing that, Cheney told Rove about Plame. Rove then laid his plans to smear Wilson and his wife through friendly and cooperative journalists like Novak and others. The CIA's Damage Assessment Report is in the hands of the Senate Select and House Permanent Select Committees on Intelligence. In another indication of its devastating nature, it is believed by insiders that if the damage report, in any way, exonerated the Bush administration, it would have been released by Intelligence Committee Republicans long ago. And in an indication that congressional Republicans are concerned about potential leaks of the Damage Assessment Report, they responded to Democratic initiatives to remove Rove's clearance with a threat to strip Democrats on the Senate and House Intelligence Committee of their own clearances.

Morale at the CIA over the White House disclosure is reported to be at an all-time low. To emphasize Plame's covert status, a number of Plame's CIA colleagues did not even know that when her name was revealed by Novak as Joseph Wilson's wife, that it was the same "Valerie," "Val," "Valerie P," or "Val P." they worked with professionally at Langley and abroad. But Rove, Cheney, and Scooter Libby knew of Plame's status and leaked all of what they knew to the media. Many CIA agents now fear that when they leave Langley and go overseas in case officer or non-official cover status, their lives may be in jeopardy since the White House cannot be trusted to protect their intelligence identities.

The Republicans, who claim the mantle of national security, are in denial over the severe damage done to the CIA, particularly from the disclosure of Plame and her NOC brass plate proprietary firm, Brewster Jennings & Associates. Even in cases where a case officer or NOC is accidentally revealed during a covert operation, they have been later targeted for assassinations by hostile intelligence services. Not only did Rove, Cheney, Libby, and others endanger Plame's and her colleagues' and assets' careers, but their lives as well.


[edit on 7/15/2005 by Jehosephat]


reply posted on 15-7-2005 @ 11:03 AM by slank
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On July 14, 2003 Novak writes a column revealing Plames identity as a CIA operative and said the source was senior Administration:
Novak, who also is a CNN contributor, attributed the information to two senior administration officials.
www.cnn.com...

Here is Rove red-handed revealing Wilson's wife as CIA:
One of the e-mails was a note from Cooper to his boss in which he said he had spoken to Rove, who described the wife of former U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson, a Bush administration critic, as someone who "apparently works" at the CIA, Newsweek magazine reported.
www.cnn.com...

It isn't the first time Rove has leaked information to Novak.
Rove fired by Bush Senior for leaking to Novak
What kind of Bush Backside kisser do you have to be to deny the obvious reality?

[edit on 15-7-2005 by slank]
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