Originally posted by spliff4020
Even though that forum blows.
A forum that has secret information hardly 'blows'. Its not hyper-active like some other forums on ATS, but there's lots of good information
My problem is this. ATS is getting weak. Almost every topic has been discussed to death
This is a problem, I don't think it makes the whole of ATS weak tho. Its just a consequence of attracting lots of inquisitive people. THe most
important thing to keep in mind there is to let people know where the topic has been discussed before.
Like, rather than anyone staying' this has been covered', to actually provide the link. Whats the point otherwise, ya know? Also, re-covering
lead to entirely different and new discussions, what with it invovling new people and the passage of time.
If its quality and people reply to it, you should be rewarded. The administrators here are shooting themselves in their own feet on this.
But that is
what happens, its just that you get even more of a reward in ATS than in the chit-chatty BTS. Also, there are applause, which are
the same across the board. Thats
where the big points cache can be.
Unless its a breaking news story the post quickly disappears or is thrown into BTS, telling the poster that their quality sucks
What are you talking about? I've never moved anything into BTS because of a quality issue, its allways about a content and topic issue. BTS isn't
some 'wastebasket'. We have
a wastebasket, its called 'deleting a thread'. We wouldn't take garbage and bother hosting it and monitoring
it and working with it, we simply destroy it.
Its an insult. Like it or not, it is
Its simply not an insult to move something from ATS to BTS. I just moved a thread from Secret Societies to Video Games because the topic was about a
military group in a video game and 'whether or not its real'. The member didn't complain. I explained to them in the notice that the subject
isn't really about a secret society, and that its in a weird context by being in that forum. Most of the guys that post there don't know what the
video game is or anything about it, and can't post anything other than 'wtf are you talking about' type responses. Its all misfires. But moveing
it to BTS Video Games, the people that monitor that forum know what the games are about, and of course
they're also all about conspiracy,
since they're also people who originally joined ATS.
The Forum sets the context. It permits the thread to be discussed fully, rather than being viewed by some weird filter. A big
example of this
is the Conspiracies in Religion Forum. Lots of stuff that gets posted there isn't about any conspiracy at all, its just about a controversial
religious aspect, like, for example, that Christianity is properly viewed as a Gnostic Religion. Thats not a conspiracy, and the guy posting it, he
doesn't want to talk about a conspiracy, he wants to talk about peceptions and understandings and religion and theology. But thats not
people go to the Conspiracy in REligion forum for. He might get responses, but th responses will focus on conspiracy and often degenerate into a
series fo clarifications and arguements, and nothing is accomplished. By moving to the BTS Religion and Spirituality, the thread has the proper
context, and there are a number of really great people there who check stuff out there
, and not necessarily in the Conspiracy Forum. And the
result is that you can have a really incredible converstation about what it is that you are really trying to get at anyway.
Its certainly not a perfect system, but I move a heck of a lot fo threads from ATS to BTS or PTS, because that's where they really belong, and the
people don't come back later saying 'my thread languishes, restore it'.
Also, this deals with the 'newcomer' issue. People that are new to the site will sometimes show up posting inthe 'hard core' conspiracy forums,
but discuss it in a chit-chatty way. So they're talking about something that's already been covered, and not really even talking about the
conpsiracy around it, just chatting with others about how they've reacted to it or percieved it, etc etc. So BTS is a natural place to segregate
those discussions into, letting people who aren't familiar with the whole topic sort of discuss it, and then if they remain interested they can
search on other threads about it and discusss the conspiracy behind it. So BTS provides a useful function in that way also.
If the threads were 'crap', we would, will, and do delete them. The board isn't under any obligation to its members to actually host everything
that they say. When someone posts crap, even if its 'trying' to be topical, we delete it.