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Originally posted by Daedalus3
thatswhy the US is now turning to India to act as a counterweight to this chinese bulge.. But I'm not too sure India's willing to play american cowboy in Asia..
Originally posted by bitterweb
Has India ever fought a significant war in histroy?
Their experties is Fight by Nonviolence, havn't heard of anything else.
Originally posted by deltaboy
im sure they fought 3 wars with Pakistan. non-violence dont work against Pakistan.
Originally posted by chinawhite
i dont get what your trying to say
Originally posted by bitterweb
Taiwan is just an excuse for US to contain China. They wouldn't mind selling out Taiwan if it were in their interest.
>>>> I think that is a bit unfair ... while we Americans may not attribute the same level of protectiveness and consideration as we would for our states and territories ... (who does) .... we do have a vested interest in seeing the example of Taiwan survive and flourish ... as a reminder of our similar plight with the British Empire some centuries ago ..>>>> hmmmm ... speculation here .... but if it were not for the West, communism would have spread much more pervasively and therefore become the defacto ideology without significant opposition.
... and Taiwan would have been a very different place than it is today (perhaps with no need for functional unification)
Originally posted by Taishyou
I, too, agree that Taiwan is mainly about geopolitics between China vs. US. It used to be a civil war between CCP and KMT but times have changed and now the conflict is about different things. China wants to rise and become #1 and the US would not allow that, so it would use whatever opportunities it can to contain China.
Of course, a commoner in the US might disagree and claim it's for the interests of the Taiwanese people, but I don't care what a commoner thinks. I care about what the US government thinks since they are the ones playing geopolitics with the Chinese government and also influencing the media which in turn influences the opinion of many commoners. So how does the US government, with a geopolitical view, see Taiwan? A strategic location to put its rival at a disadvantage. When politicians do good things for another country, it's because they want them to become another ally to help them face their rivals, not because they actually care.
[edit on 20-7-2005 by Taishyou]
Originally posted by puri
I know most americans don't like Chinese very much. Look at the postings at ATS, you can tell how ill informed they are. I used to agree with western opinions that China is full of propoganda., but after I checked the western media, I learned where the worst propoganda is.
The cause of the distrust between the US and China is profound. Most Chinese are pretty successful in understanding American way of thinking and can bend themselves, but the Americans are blinded by their past glories and successes. They would not even try to understand China, citing ChinCom as the obstacle. But do they know the 90% of the ChinComs are their capitalist cousins in essence. It's more than ideology things, it's also about culture and civilization. The US has never tried to live in peace with any non-Christian civilizations and is likely remain so. That may explain why the US don't trust China and don't treat China as equal.
Taiwan is only 100 miles from China and can't walk away. The war with CHina over taiwan is deemed to lose, in the long-run. It could last three hours, three weeks, or three hundred year. But Chinese will eventually claim Taiwan. I don't know how many American contrubutors in this forum have been to China. How many of them know about the true picture of China's economy and military strength. I am surprised to learn so many of them actually believe in their NMD (Bullets hitting bullets), and China has only 50 Nuke bombs to launch. Here is an interesting comparison: The US always advertizing its latest tech advancement, while China always hide them - culture difference might explain.
Originally posted by NWguy83
The U.S should be more worried about rogue ultra-communist Chinese Generals launching ballistic missiles at the U.S than Islamic terrorists launching ballistic missiles at America.