Releasing Chakra

If any of you are intouch or know about Chakra energy then this will be easier to understand...if not there are many sites you can find on google that have perfect explanations.

For my question. over history people have told many stories...stories that theoretically could not have happened in our mind set now...lets say for instance the myth that ninja samuri could release Chakra from the pores of there feet allowing them to be boyent and therefor being able to run on water. or like such people who are believed to be able to conduct heat from there hands with an open palm. all stories these days....but was it possible?

Studies have shown that the Pineal Gland in our brains have shrank over the years. But when this was at its prime was it able to have effect with so called Chakra powers? its funny cause if you watch Animes such a Naruto everything they say in it about harnessing and releasing chakra seems to be possible if Chakra does in fact exist in our bodies.

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Another thing people still believe in today is the ability to see with the Pineal Gland and use it as our third eye. being able to see things such as color shapes or images...so possibly what question we are asking they could recieve and answer.

is this all possible if we would just practice this ability?

i dont know alot on the subject on Chakra so if any of you out there seem so have expirienced such things or know more about the subject...please enlighten all of us.

There are many sites that claim superhuman or supernatural powers for those who achieve an experience called the Awakening of Kundalini. The Chakras are believed to be stations or paths in the body for Universal Life energy. Most sites show seven Chakras along the spine.

Some sites on martial arts promote the ability to project this energy.

I have been working on a psychology project for about three years. I encountered this belief system in that research.

The beliefs that one can levitate, dematerialize, hear others thoughts and direct their actions through telepathy are a part of both Qi Gong and Kundalini Yoga. In Qi Gong the term is opening the third eye.

No one has ever demonstrated these powers under scientific observation.

Long term users of Qi Gong and Kundalini Yoga have a narrowly focused psychotically altered mental state. They function normally otherwise. Many sites promoting Kundalini Yoga warn of serious mental problems that sometimes happen to those who travel the path of enlightenment.

The explanation is exposure to Subliminal Distraction due to a conflict of physiology related to the vision startle reflex.

When two or more people perform the exercises while engaging an eyes-open meditating state they can subliminally detect movement of those exercising near them.

The phenomenon was discovered when Knowledge workers using the first close-spaced office workstations began having bizarre or psychotic episodes. Those episodes were temporary, resolving with no treatment. The Cubicle solved that problem and Cubicle Level Protection prevents these mental breaks in business offices to this day.

Accidental or deliberate repeated exposure causes the mental break just as it did for those office workers in the 1960's.

The problem allows stimulation of the subconscious from failed vision reflexes.

My site is about the conflict of physiology and there are pages on Kundalini Yoga and Qi Gong.

The bottom line is that those who make the claims are not lying. They believe they can do those things. They teach others that the experience they encounter is a state of higher existence.

The experience is real. But the beliefs are not.

VisionAndPsychosis.Net...

[edit on 13-7-2005 by DontTreadOnMe]

what exactly is you project you've been working on about? trying to answer why these people in offices went crazy?

It started as a search for a problem I remembered from my engineering student days. I couldn't find anything on the Internet about it.


As I searched I began to find other problems that involved activities that would cause a mental break.

I finally realized that no one other than the designers and engineers who build Systems Furniture, Cubicles is aware of this problem. They think Subliminal Distraction only caused a temporary episode that resolves with no treatment.

The first addition to the Project was Dissociative Fugue. I remembered stories I had wondered about. People just suddenly disappear. Sometimes they are found years later with no memory of their past life.


Now I plan to explain what causes Psychotic Mental Illness.

On the Cause of Psychotic Mental Illness page I will use the exposure rates and resulting mental outcomes of Qi Gong and Kundalini Yoga psychotic episodes to construct a model for Schizophrenia.




[edit on 14-7-2005 by L K Tucker]

I deleted a dupe post.

[edit on 14-7-2005 by L K Tucker]

**** trying to find out the cause of Psychotic Mental Illness...you are for sure working hard then im sure...seems like such a hard thing to understand and to find a cause, its seems so random to me to find a certain problem. but i wish you the best of luck and hope you come across an Answer.

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[edit on 14-7-2005 by DontTreadOnMe]

We are made of energy. The chakra is the basic energy pattern/system - very basic.
It's like the 'key hit points' when working with energy. You can't release a chakra - although you can get the energy flowing and release energy.

Walking on water? I find that hard to believe. Palms warming - many can do that. Where focus goes, energy flows. You could do it too.

When you are with a friend and before talking to that friend you ask what's wrong - even thought the friend was 'acting' as if everything is fine... you felt the energy, it was different.

You know how when you are around some people yu are relaxed and clam, others make you nervous or jumpy or cranky - some people you have an instant dislike to etc - it's the energy of that person.

I can't remember your question now. LOL

Didn't Jesus supposedly walk on water? In Hinduism, there are 8 main siddhis, some of them are actually illustrated in the Matrix trilogy and Star Wars. Siddhis are supernatural powers manifested on the path to enlightenment.

While nobody has been able to demonstrate these powers under scientific observation, I refuse to believe that these powers are imaginary. While some may truly BELIEVE to have these powers and yet do not, I believe there are those who actually HAVE those powers, though they are too few in number. I imagine it would take a great deal of concentration and energy to manifest some of these siddhis like levitating and such, which 99.99999% of the people in this world will be unable to demonstrate unless they've devoted their entire lives to doing it.

EDIT: it is not necessary to quote the post just before yours.

[edit on 18-7-2005 by DontTreadOnMe]

I won't step on anyone's beliefs. But what do you think would happen if you or I appeared at a hospital emergency room saying we could levitate, dematerialize, walk through solid objects, read other's thoughts and direct their actions through mental telepathy?

We would be held for observation.

Why then if a man with no formal education from India says these things do people like movie stars and rock musicians rush to study and learn from him?

These Yogis do believe this and my memory is that one attempted to demonstrate levitation on a Geraldo program. I have been disabled a long time and during one period of recuperation all I could do was watch TV.

The Yogi claimed it would not work if he was directly observed so a box was constructed for him. The test would be positive if his weight disappeared and only the box weight remained.

He began hopping, Yogic Flying, but the box only slid around the floor.

The point is that he believed he could levitate. My site explains that those beliefs are delusional, psychotic and why/how they are created.

What no one has known before is that the exercise of certain types of Yoga accidentally engage the same conflict of physiology explored on my site. Eyes-open meditation engages the same mental state so that you can/must ignore movement around you. This phenomenon of physiology was discovered because it caused mental breaks for office workers using the first close-spaced workstations. The episodes there were temporary just as sudden onset ones are today. (ICU Psychosis)


So what does this mean. Low but significant levels of exposure over many years produces permanent psychotic states.

Can this be proved; not by direct experimentation, that would be unethical.

The only way to establish a causative relation is through gathering evidence by examining the activities of those who are effected and finding out how they were exposed.

That is what my project has begun to do.

You will find links to books by Yogis that make these claims here:

www.visionandpsychosis.net...


By the way, ...when you explore religious figures examine how many of them exhibited symptoms of mental illness. Then examine the activities they engaged before the spiritual revelation. Would those activities have caused exposure to the phenomenon.

The phenomenon has always been in every human population. It may have established the world's religions.

Originally posted by bhagavadgita
Didn't Jesus supposedly walk on water? [edit on 18-7-2005 by DontTreadOnMe]

Yes - of course Jesus walked on water. But, in the here and now - we 3D people don't 'walk' on water. We can skim the surface like a car does when hydroplaning, IF you can find someone who can run fast enough. LOL

I myself have experienced releasing chakra.... Through Qi-gong.


But only for a small amount of time and its not visible just feelable

I broke a big wooden plank to peices with no pure strength but through using Qi-Gong.

Took me about 45 minutes before I actually tried to hit the plank , and when I hit it it broke smoothly

By the way, ...when you explore religious figures examine how many of them exhibited symptoms of mental illness. Then examine the activities they engaged before the spiritual revelation. Would those activities have caused exposure to the phenomenon.

The phenomenon has always been in every human population. It may have established the world's religions.

Wasn't that William James idea? the Pathology of Religion? Very interesting post. I myself have had some yoga related psychotic episodes. Everytime I mention that to New Agers, they assure me that it 'never happens', because yoga is the answer to all of life's problems, and couldn't possibly cause harm. I find that free thinkers can be very 'fundamentalist' when you scratch the surface.