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is NASA holding back evidence of man made structures on Mars?

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posted on Jul, 23 2005 @ 04:44 AM
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Would it be like, in Stargate SG-1 where the Goa'ould take humans from Earth thousands of years ago and plant them on different planets throughout the galaxy? Maybe these man-made structures were made by Humans who were planted on Mars by an alien race and died off when the core and atmosphere died?

I'm not saying they planted them on Mars using a Stargate, I'm just using that as an example...stargates dont exist, people make threads about how the government has a stargate, tsk tsk too much TV




posted on Jul, 23 2005 @ 04:51 AM
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GAAAAHHHH!!!!!! the second i go on ATS after coming back from holidays, and you're writing about Stargate again???
it wouldn't matter as much but youre always saying stuff like "ooh Stargates on now" and "look at my Stargate magasine"
sorry back to the thread- my views are I think they might have been built by machines sent up to Mars in case of a huge emergency like aliens attacking or something of the like. I hope this hasn't already been said, I didn't read the whole thing



posted on Jul, 23 2005 @ 04:58 AM
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Okay lets say there is still life on Mars. Someone said its impossible because the core and atmosphere has died. Let's go back to Earth, some creatures here can survive and even thrive in the most desolate conditions. Polar bears basically live on a huge ice cube, Beatles live under the sand. Now why cant creatures on an entirely different planet live in suche extreme conditions. They would have adapted when the core died. They would be physically different. After the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs life emerged once more. Who's to say it can't on Mars?



posted on Jul, 24 2005 @ 12:04 AM
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Hmmmm.... listen to multi-billion dollar NASA, with engineers, scientists, astronomers, and biologists that study this stuff as a job or what some guy that lives in a trailer in the Nevada desert thinks about the pictures on Mars. Wind, all of your sources are not credible in any way, sorry but it's true. NASA run by Freemasons? What next, Wal-Mart is run by the Illuminati.

- Life on Mars, at one time could have been microbial, never advanced.
- No man made stuctures on Mars.
- All people "researching" Cydonia are NOT educated in astronomy, biology, geology, mathematics (to a proper degree), photographic anaysis, etc, and lie about there background.
- Life may be elsewhere in the galaxy, not in our solar system other than Earth.

The concept of Cydonia is just plain laughable. Now what are you going to tell me, the moon is made out of cheese?


[edit on 7/24/2005 by GoldEagle]



posted on Jul, 24 2005 @ 04:16 AM
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Cool, but I'am sorry to say that I don't think that it's true...



posted on Jul, 24 2005 @ 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by GoldEagle

The concept of Cydonia is just plain laughable. Now what are you going to tell me, the moon is made out of cheese?


[edit on 7/24/2005 by GoldEagle]


But the moon is made out of cheese! Click here and zoom in as far as you can!



posted on Jul, 24 2005 @ 08:29 AM
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from what I hear, Mars climate right now shows what would happen to earth if an a-bomb went off. They say that earth would be the same way 50 years later.



posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 04:26 AM
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Dear all visit this site and make sure that NASA men are Freemasons:
www.freemasonry.bcy.ca...

And again, the resemblances between earth structures and "Mars structures" are overwhelming. You yourselves, do you think that a tetrahedral pyramid can be created and maintained by natural factors. Personally, I think not. I also find that Silbury hill and Avebury that matches a Mars crater (the ones I presented in the Aulis site) to be impossible. The angle between them even matches exactly. Impossible



posted on Jul, 25 2005 @ 10:50 PM
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Wind, clearly you have not read this: City Slicker

This information is vital in understanding the Hoagland has been "beating around the bush" about his "hyperdimesional physics" (him doing normal physics is astonishing, hyperdimesional though? Wow). Where did he get his mathematical degree to offically publish his findings with credibility?



posted on Jul, 26 2005 @ 12:33 AM
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I think the problem with all of these "buildings" on Mars comes down to the fact that people just don't understand what the true size of the objects is there're viewing. In the original images the size of objects in the photos is 43 meters per pixel. Most of the images you view online have been reduced to 1/5th to 1/20th of the original size which means the size of the objects are now anywhere from 215m per pixel to 860m per pixel.

In April 1998, Mars Global Surveyor flew over Cydonia for the first time and took a high-resolution photograph, ten times sharper than the original Viking pictures. It revealed a natural landform, there was no alien monument after all. But not everyone was satisfied, because the camera on board Mars Global Surveyor had to peer through wispy clouds to see the surface. Perhaps, the sceptics said, alien markings were hidden by haze. In 2001, Mars Global Surveyor drew close enough for a second look and captured an extraordinary photograph using maximum resolution. Each pixel in the 2001 image represented 2 metres (6.6 ft), compared to 43 metres per pixel in the best Viking image from 1976.

But still, the Mars face proponents choose to ignore the 2m per pixel photo and run with the 43m per pixel photo because it suits their fantasy.


Click on it, look at the larger picture. Now, where is this face again? It's a huge mountain with erosion... It's over 2200m wide and over 4000m long. In comparison, the great pyramid of Khufu is 230.4m long/wide.

I think it just comes down to the simple truth that most people don't understand the size of objects they're looking at in space photos; couple that with a nifty sounding story, and soon you have quite a few people excited about a possible alien artifact.



posted on Jul, 26 2005 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by Wind
Dear all visit this site and make sure that NASA men are Freemasons:
www.freemasonry.bcy.ca...

What does that matter?


And again, the resemblances between earth structures and "Mars structures" are overwhelming.

Yeah, the resemblence between martian and natural earth structures is strong.


You yourselves, do you think that a tetrahedral pyramid can be created and maintained by natural factors.

There isn't a perfect tetrahedral pyramid.


The angle between them even matches exactly. Impossible

Why in the world would it be immpossible that two caraters have any particular angle between them>?



posted on Jul, 26 2005 @ 04:02 AM
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You don't need to be a nuclear physicist to reduce the crater on Mars to the size of Avebury and don't need to be a genius to see that the presence of a wall, a crater of the same shape, with a tetrahedral pyramid in the first place of the crater, with the Silbury hill in the same place as on Earth, with the left tetrahedral pyramid, with the same angle degree between the hill and the crater , are the same. Hoagland may have his flaw backs, but this doesn't take nuclear physics. One should look at Nefertiti, with even her eyelashes appearing at high resolution and with some heroglyphic language in one photo. As said before, NASA manipulated the lights to make the face look natural, and could convince everyone, but since I am not that expert im math, I can't argue with phil plait. I hope the site of Keith Lanely will open, since there is a photo of what looks like an unsuccessful pyramid. Apile of stones with squared, sharp squared edges.

As for Freemasonry, these people are known for their hoaxes. Many politicians and influencial ppl are in them. Would they engage in them if they don't have the upper hand in anything?

The pyramid is tetrahedral, you can spot this, and the point of freemasonry is that it is their sign. Check the dollar and the pyramid with the triangle and the eye in it. This triangle with a well-drawn circle in it appear in "the hidden colors of Mars" the site I have posted in one of the replies.

Anyhow, to me, the game is over for NASA. Anything else remains ppl's opinions. I don't blame anyone for not believing that NASA hoaxes the photos. The media brainwashes us and makes us believe what they want.
all the best



posted on Jul, 26 2005 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by fishmaster
www.unarius.org...


Some say long before our time Mars was a rest station for spacecraft. I'm sure NASA would keep it from us....our little minds wouldn't be able to process it without caos errupting
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I didnt read any further than this first post yet.

Why would chaos errupt? And why is it that you refer to our minds as little??



posted on Jul, 26 2005 @ 07:36 PM
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Wasn't NASA always looking for evidence life on Mars? Why would they cover it up? They have nothing to lose, if they found evidence of life on Mars, this would increase the people's intrest in space exploration and NASA would be on top of it all. Sorry this cover up thing dosen't add up.

I also don't think caos would errupt in our society, many people belive in aliens already.



posted on Aug, 1 2005 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by Wind
The pyramid is tetrahedral, you can spot this, and the point of freemasonry is that it is their sign. Check the dollar and the pyramid with the triangle and the eye in it. This triangle with a well-drawn circle in it appear in "the hidden colors of Mars" the site I have posted in one of the replies.


So your saying Freemasons flew to Mars thousands of years ago and built these "pyramids"? Not aliens? Okay now this really dosn't add up. I would like someone to explain this to me.


Hoagland may have his flaw backs, but this doesn't take nuclear physics.


Agreed, but what if that person claimed to be one when he's not??



posted on Aug, 2 2005 @ 04:25 AM
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No, that is not what I meant. It is obvious from my posts that I think that NASA, being freemasons, they put the signs of freemasonry on the FAKED photos. No one went to Mars, no aliens, no NASA, no Freemasons , no nothing.
As for Hoagland, ppl always devalue the other party's capabilities, so I am not sure that Hoagland is not capable of looking at the p[hotos. However, you don't need to be an expert to spot that these are artificial structures, especially Nefertit, where it is said that her eyelashes do appear at high resolution.



posted on Aug, 2 2005 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by Wind
No one went to Mars, no aliens, no NASA, no Freemasons , no nothing.


Then who built them if they are artifical? Aliens didn't build them? Or are you implying that beings evolved on Mars and built them, then died off.


apc

posted on Aug, 2 2005 @ 01:38 PM
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Wow...

It's one thing to really overestimate the power reach of the Masons..

It's another to claim every probe to Mars has been a fraud.

Seeing as.. just like with the Moon.. third parties have monitored the signals and can verify, undeniably, their origin.

What's next? The Earth is the static fixed center of the universe and it is surrounded by glass? Oh, wait...

>I guess the Russians never had theirs, either:
www.russianspaceweb.com...

[edit on 2-8-2005 by apc]



posted on Aug, 2 2005 @ 02:49 PM
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hola everyone,

well i agree that mars today cant support life much more interesting than bactiria,but in the past sure it could of,there ways liquid water but there once but i dont think it ever had a carbon cycle like here on earth which stops us overheating like venus,which the earth use to be like.

One day we may flee to venus like like life may have left mars as conditions change.



posted on Aug, 2 2005 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by obsidian468

The blurb in that article about Tesla's "contributions" was rather absurd.


The threat is presented through the use of secret technology originally developed by the Germans in their secret weapons programs during WW-II, by geniuses like Nikola Tesla, and many others.


Most of Tesla's rumored anti-gravity ships were more attributable to Marconi, who used Tesla's research to develop these vessels along with Tesla. Marconi died in 1937, the same year that WWII started


Hmmm, i'm not sure, but I THINK WWII started in 1939, not 37 bud.....Anyways, I doubt there is anything interesting on mars, apart from a few micro organisms that possibly survived in the ice left on the surface, perhaps when we land men on there, we will find some fossils of other creatures.







 
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