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reply posted on 12-7-2005 @ 12:58 PM by kenshiro2012
Snoopdopey
I'll take your points 1 by 1

Police find dna or id of bomber in bus from tooth, blood etc, run a criminal background check on the lot, wow wee, a muslim! Maybe we should check that out lads the detectives say to another.

There are a couple of problems with this one.
a) DNA takes a while (sonmetimes weeks) for even a top of the line lab to id DNA. The dna also has to be matched in some database in order to match dna to a specific person.
b) There 52 people dead. run a backround check on them would not id that they are muslim unless there is something specific in the iddentification that designates a religious preference.
c) Checking for criminal backround for identification would indicate that these guys had a prior criminal record. Note, the police stated that all persons of interest (terrorists) were accounted for and were not thought to have been involved.



Oh Gosh, he's reported missing, and his car isn't there either!


Out of 52 dead 700 wounded and over 2000 calls to the info line that was setup identified these guys? How, were callers questioned about their religious background?



They would have needed to travel to Luton from Leeds in it, check all mayor stations and airports.


Ok, this is working backwards. and also does not really provide proof. what about all the other travelers from Leeds? were they also investigated? It has not been reported.



About the 3 other suspects?
How about, your planning a big terrorist attack, which needs to be completed during the morning rush, so lets imagine that after making the bombs, and putting in all that work, they leave nothing to chance...


Meaning? any notes etc that could have identified these people as being the ones would not have been on their persons but at their residences. Again. how do you go from being on the underground to having your flat raided to identify incriminating materials?


Ie. One of them orders tickets for the Luton station (where the car was found), so as to make it in time for rush hour, just incase the train is full, and they cannot travel to their objective.
How do you pre-book? ... With a card! And in some cases, the details of each ticket holder must be inputted.


And again, how does buying a ticket to be on the underground lead to your being a suspect? I sometimes use the local bus system, so I guess that this would make me a suspect for any crimes that maybe commited along the route?



Alternatively, they may all have had previous convictions, and 4 muslims, from the same area, not within commuting distance, in london who were killed in the bombings could also be a potential lead to follow up, i think it's common sense.

Again as reported by the police, all person of suspect had not been involved.
So, if these muslims had records which would automatically lead the police to believe that they were bombers..... why were they not already identified? Or are you saying the cops were wrong on Thursday / Friday when they stated that all persons that had been identified as possible terrorists had been accounted for and had not been involved?


reply posted on 12-7-2005 @ 01:11 PM by Snoopdopey
There are a couple of problems with this one.
a) DNA takes a while (sonmetimes weeks) for even a top of the line lab to id DNA. The dna also has to be matched in some database in order to match dna to a specific person.
b) There 52 people dead. run a backround check on them would not id that they are muslim unless there is something specific in the iddentification that designates a religious preference.
c) Checking for criminal backround for identification would indicate that these guys had a prior criminal record. Note, the police stated that all persons of interest (terrorists) were accounted for and were not thought to have been involved.


What if it was some kind of jewellery, or his driving licence if he had one?

Out of 52 dead 700 wounded and over 2000 calls to the info line that was setup identified these guys? How, were callers questioned about their religious background?


I'm not following your here mate, are you thinking ok? They have ID'd the guy, they check to see if his name is flagged up on missing persons list, family leaves address details and names.

Ok, this is working backwards. and also does not really provide proof. what about all the other travelers from Leeds? were they also investigated? It has not been reported.


Again your not thinking straight here, they wouldn't have to check all travellers, only the named individual, plus if it was his car, which they later found, they then skip back to CCTV last Thurs morining, and sure enough, 4 men of middle eastern decent with back packs get out. What's so complicated?

Meaning? any notes etc that could have identified these people as being the ones would not have been on their persons but at their residences. Again. how do you go from being on the underground to having your flat raided to identify incriminating materials?


Well if the train had been booked, then most likely their details would be in the booking...

And again, how does buying a ticket to be on the underground lead to your being a suspect? I sometimes use the local bus system, so I guess that this would make me a suspect for any crimes that maybe commited along the route?


No, again your not thinking, no name is printed on an underground ticket, i'm talking about a rail ticket from Luton to Kings Cross.

I'm not trying to say this is the answer, but there's lots of people trying to make up conspiracies without thinking it through.

It's perfectly reasonable that the police could have found out their identity from a trail of evidence in this timescale.
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