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Topic started on 12-7-2005 @ 07:59 AM by Jezza
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Manufacturer
also highlights development of strike weapon and new guided bomb
Manufacturer also highlights development of strike weapon and new guided bomb
Lockheed Martin has unveiled plans to demonstrate a “persistent surveillance” hybrid cruise missile/unmanned air vehicle next year. Named Top
Cover, the air-launched, forward-swept-wing design will have an endurance of over 24h at altitudes around 5,000ft (1,500m) and is intended to operate
as a cruise missile, lethal UAV or disposable surveillance UAV.
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This looks very impressive, any thoughts????
Mod edit to correct link distorting the page layout.
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reply posted on 12-7-2005 @ 08:10 AM by IAF101
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wow! That missile looks amazing!! Nice find !
With the plethora of weapons available to the US will this really be needed? With Lockheeds renowned price tag I amsure this comes at a heafty price!
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reply posted on 12-7-2005 @ 08:37 AM by skippytjc
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They wouldnt need alot of these. Imagine parking these things in the skies above the mountains in Afghanistan and let them loiter about. Osama
couldnt move, he would have no idea if these things saw him or not. And if they start to shoot at them, well then they just gave away thier
positions. This is a fantastic option for high value targets in hard to reah places.
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reply posted on 12-7-2005 @ 08:47 AM by muzzleflash
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WOW i like that! lol
i think we could use a few dozen of em
hey and look at it; it looks like a missle with sissors on it lmao
the enemy will be saying "are they going to blow us up or cut us in half?"
hehehe
hey whats the price tag on this baby anyways?
ill make a guess
hmmm lets say 15 to 25 million$a piece
lets see how close my estimate is
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reply posted on 12-7-2005 @ 08:52 AM by Gazrok
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hey whats the price tag on this baby anyways?
ill make a guess
hmmm lets say 15 to 25 million$a piece
lets see how close my estimate is  
With Lockheeds renowned price tag I amsure this comes at a heafty price!

and is intended to operate as a cruise missile, lethal UAV or disposable surveillance UAV.

 Let's hope your price estimates are very wrong!!!
Actually, we already use many UAVs, so the real question is what does this offer that other existing ones don't????
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reply posted on 12-7-2005 @ 08:58 AM by waynos
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That looks a very smart piece of kit, it also strikes me as a very good extension of the way the BAE ALARM missile works, with its (obviously far more
limited) loiter capability.
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reply posted on 12-7-2005 @ 09:04 AM by Kidfinger
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The article stated how much these things cost. Doesnt anybody read?
 It will be powered by a single turbofan engine. Its planned unit cost of around $200,000 will allow it to be treated as expendable, says Jim
Pappafotis, director of advanced programmes at Lockheed Martin Missiles & Fire Control. 
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reply posted on 12-7-2005 @ 09:06 AM by muzzleflash
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whew thank god i was way off
i took a good look at the article but i didnt see it thanks for pointing it out dude
gazrok"so the real question is what does this offer that other existing ones don't????"
lol it offers futuristic sissors to cut our enemys in half
lol i dont know really
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reply posted on 12-7-2005 @ 09:15 AM by longbow
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This is actually nothing new, the new tactical Tomahawks should have similar capabilities too. I don't know how good their optical sensors are,
though.
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reply posted on 12-7-2005 @ 11:50 AM by Zanzibar
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Maybe the ups to it are that it seconds as a big badda bomb, see terrorist, blow terrorist inot tiny bits. Lush, but I doubt theyre going to use them
on Osama, they dont want to blow up the White House now do they?!!  Just joking.
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reply posted on 12-7-2005 @ 12:22 PM by Canada_EH
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I had never thought that the targeting systems on those things was that cheap. to make it for 200 000 with all of those systems. what im thinking too
is that its goin to need the same type or simaler FBW system to make the weapon stable so it can cruise around enemy territory.
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reply posted on 12-7-2005 @ 05:53 PM by Char2c35t
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well the tech has become cheap and will change the battlefield once agian
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reply posted on 12-7-2005 @ 08:38 PM by WestPoint23
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I like this system this could allows forces on the ground to contact one of these loitering cruise missiles/UAV’s and give them info where to
strike. Like the SEAL’s that were stuck in Afghanistan they could have used a couple of these to hit the enemy positions they were fighting, and
when the chopper that was supposed to back them up when down hwy not hit the taliban with cruise missiles that would be readily available in the area.
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reply posted on 13-7-2005 @ 09:07 AM by Jezza
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Awesome product and you could field thousands of them.
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reply posted on 13-7-2005 @ 05:09 PM by SOC
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I'd be curious how they think B-2s are going to be carrying these things externally.
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reply posted on 15-7-2005 @ 02:21 AM by Wembley
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Yes, external carriage on a B-2 does seem like a rather bizarre concept, but they did seem quite specific.
Great stuff for fighting hordes of Soviet armour, but pretty useless in Afghanistan or Iraq because of the usual problem of target recognition. But
you can always call people 'terrorists' after you've blown them up.
Noet that the Boeing version of the Air Dominator was announced a while back and similarly has long persistence (48+hours) and operates in swarms.
Their main problem will be AA artillery in the short term; in the longer term I think they will fall prey to other UAVs which will be cheap and
plentiful.
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reply posted on 17-7-2005 @ 07:10 PM by American Mad Man
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Originally posted by Wembley
Yes, external carriage on a B-2 does seem like a rather bizarre concept, but they did seem quite specific. 
They were in fact specific
The option exists to carry them externally, but it is unlikely for that to happen since they may be carried internally.
If fielded, the XR cruise missile would be carried by the USAF’s Northrop B-2 and Boeing B-52 bombers, which, respectively, could carry up to eight
and four weapons internally and two and eight weapons externally.

So the B-2 can carry up to 8 internally, and 2 externally. I doubt that they would ever need the B-2 to carry more then 8, especially if they could
simply use a B-52, which can carry 2 more of these things, is a fraction of the cost, and isn't predicated on stealth to begin with.
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reply posted on 18-7-2005 @ 11:30 PM by truttseeker
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I dont know how to explain it but does anyone else think that these things could be used for missile defense?
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