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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
It was pointed out by one talking head today that the infrastructure for surveillance is already in place in London and other English cities and that all that is really needed is an emphasis on terror instead of lesser concerns such as errant drivers. I would also think that a concerted effort on the part of the rationale segment of society to be vigilant and to report suspicious activity, instead of "minding one's own business." Really, the "trojan horse" is within our gates. It may very well be too late, but we shouldn't go down without a fight.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Here's the deal, Valhall. There are mass murderers in our midst. If we don't do something to catch these vermin and kill them, they will kill you and everyone you love. Is there no one who is willing to sacrifice anything in the war on terror? Liberty is not absolute, even under the best of circumstances.
England doesn't have the benefit of our Constitution, so perhaps they have more to fear, but the fact is that if we can't find some balance between personal liberty and necessary security, the terrorists will deprive us of our way of life using those very freedoms.
We Americans build into laws like the infernal and utterly stupid "assault weapons" ban and the Patriot Acts an expiration date so that we can revisit the issue at a later date. Such an arrangement seems reasonable to me, but then, I have nothing to hide.
Originally posted by Seekerof
Objectively speaking here, I have always found it ironic that some within ATS have condemned the US repeatedly for the Patriot Acts and how it is becoming another police state controlled by fascists, etc., and yet, realistically, the UK is the one that is becoming a true police state.
Interestingly, the same ones are now condemning a US commander's order for US troops and personnel stationed in the UK, to stay out of London. How can they continue to condemn US actions when one of the greatest fears of the 20th and 21st century's is about to become nearly full-filled in the UK? I guess they have no problem with being monitored 24-7, eh, but yet, they still call and insinuate that the US is this and that?
I grow increasingly frustrated when I read such from some of those UK members, because to me, they simply need to look in the mirror before pointing those fingers...
Originally posted by kegs
Anyway, I'm going to sit back now and wait for these bombings to be linked to Iran.
Larry Johnson, a former senior counter-terrorist official at the state department, said: "When the story ultimately comes out we'll see that Iran has run one of the most masterful intelligence operations in history. They persuaded the US and Britain to dispose of its greatest enemy."
Originally posted by St Udiowill have a better go at it, after seeing what doesn't work, from our inspired creations.