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Eurofighter is still a most deathly weapon system

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posted on Jul, 11 2005 @ 07:09 AM
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After many sucessful weapons, designed specially for Eurofighter [IRST, Meteor, Storm Shadow...], here is another. The anti aircraft hypersonic missile ALI, capable to hit target 400 km away at speed Mach 12 and with more than 100 G loading. Who can resist?










posted on Jul, 11 2005 @ 07:34 AM
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The Eurofighters are brill, I live near an RAF base (Cant remember the exact name) and they had an open day to show off the Eurofighter, But all the ones there were modified for Air to Ground Attacks so they prolly wont have the new ALI there.
But still, very nice, I like the Eurofighters because they can so easily be modified to to anything. Air superioty, Ground Attack..... wateva you want the Eurofighter delivers and with some more.



posted on Jul, 11 2005 @ 08:00 AM
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There's no doubt in my mind that the Eurofighter is the second most dangerous bird in the air today (Only the Raptor betters it, and perhaps the Su-37, neither of which are in large numbers yet).

But, Europe will have the same problem as the U.S., and that is justification of such an expensive weapons platform in a rapidly changing world. Unless China gets aggressive or Russia returns to the socialist model, the role performed by the Eurofighter can be performed by existing fighters.

This fighter is worlds different from the EAP program of the 1990s and that is for the better. It is what the Tornado and Jaguar were supposed to be, a superior cross-military Mutlirole fighter.

Now, if the Brits will unplug the cannons on their models, it will be awesome.

forum.keypublishing.co.uk...



I really feel a bit sorry for the brits and the way that their superior weapons systems get screwed up by the bean counters(i.e. TSR2). Same goes for the Canadians and the Arrow. Both superior to anything else in the world at the time, both cancelled due to regime change more than anything else.

[edit on 7/11/2005 by soulforge]



posted on Jul, 11 2005 @ 12:31 PM
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yeah.. but I still don't like the idea that the Eurofighter will "fall" out of the sky if its onboard stabilising computers malfunction



posted on Jul, 11 2005 @ 03:31 PM
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Any links? Just because such misille doesn't exist. Current AA misilles have Mach 4.5 at best. And achieveing 100Gs with 350 m heavy long range misille. I would be very happy to see any real inof about it.


jra

posted on Jul, 11 2005 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by Daedalus3
yeah.. but I still don't like the idea that the Eurofighter will "fall" out of the sky if its onboard stabilising computers malfunction


Well the same would happen if the F-22's computers malfunctioned. Same with the F-117. I think that did happen to one once.



posted on Jul, 11 2005 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by longbow
Any links? Just because such misille doesn't exist. Current AA misilles have Mach 4.5 at best. And achieveing 100Gs with 350 m heavy long range misille. I would be very happy to see any real inof about it.


It exists, although it isnt out of prototype status. Read page 13 here. It clearly says Mach 6.62 has been reached, and accelerations of over 100g are possible. I think it is rather reliable since the document isnt a PR brochure but rather for technical demonstration purposes.

[edit on 11/7/2005 by Lonestar24]



posted on Jul, 11 2005 @ 10:05 PM
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As with the Meteor, it too, will get passed to the US.

EADS rocks, though.


Btw, you guys do realize that the US is currently working on its own versions of anti-aircraft hypersonic missiles, though admittedly, at this point, perhaps not as fast as claimed by the EADS version. Nonetheless, allies are allies....
HyTech [Hypersonic Technology]
Fasthawk Low Cost Missile System (LCMS)
HyStrike - High Speed Strike Missile

Solid and informative articl, thanks, matej.
Always good to read about stuff coming out of EADS.






seekerof

[edit on 11-7-2005 by Seekerof]



posted on Jul, 11 2005 @ 11:49 PM
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A prototype doesnt mean much.... Also the missle looks like a model rocket i made in my home last week. The U.S. missle based on Scramjet technology is far better and has been proven to operate at its potential speed- not just "estimated."



posted on Jul, 12 2005 @ 06:15 AM
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Looks like a interesting missle. Clearly demonstrates that the brits are still here with weapon development.



posted on Jul, 12 2005 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by Lonestar24
It exists, although it isnt out of prototype status. Read page 13 here. It clearly says Mach 6.62 has been reached, and accelerations of over 100g are possible. I think it is rather reliable since the document isnt a PR brochure but rather for technical demonstration purposes.


But there is a huge difference between Mach 6 and Mach 12. I don't say it cannot fulfil some of the matej promises (there are short range misilles with 100gs already today) but I don't think it can fullfill them all (400km range, 100Gs, 12 Mach, weight under 350 Kg).

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posted on Jul, 12 2005 @ 11:35 AM
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according to www.airforce-technology.com... the EuroFighter can reach speeds of Mach 1 without after burners; thats about the same as the F-22.

Eurofighter-


Maximum Speed 2,390 km/h 1,480 mph
Combat Range 1,390 km 860 miles
Ferry Range 3,700 km 2,300 miles
Service Ceiling > 18,000 m > 60,000 ft
Rate of Climb 15,240 m/min 50,000 ft/min
Wing Loading 311 kg/m² 63.7 lb/ft²
Thrust/Weight 7.7 N/kg 0.79 lbf/lb
The cost is different for euro countries, for Germany its Germany: EUR 85 million "system cost"
cleary a legendary fighter.

I've got a question though, has the EU made an offical signature for fighters like these. SImiliar to how germany has the Iron Cross, and the United STates uses the Star.


[edit on 12-7-2005 by evanfitz]



posted on Jul, 12 2005 @ 12:03 PM
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The EU is not a military or industrial organisation so has no jurisdiction over the Typhoon as such.

However Eurofighter designed a roundel made up of the partner nations coulours which can be seen on this prototype;



It will not be carried by service aircraft though as they will naturally carry the insignia of the owner air forces.

It is similar in concept to the tri-partite roundel that Panavia used on the early Tornado prototypes such as this one;



Before that there was the tripartite US/UK/German roundel used on the Kestrel squadron in the 1960's



posted on Jul, 12 2005 @ 04:13 PM
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The German eurofighter's are always the best looking (& most effective i would like to believe)


As with the Meteor, it too, will get passed to the US


Dream on ...................


There is no doubt that the Eurofighter is lethal, but attributing this to a its ability to fire a new missile is not right.

Would'nt the Rafale be as lethal if it got this new missile ??

And whatever happened to the Eurofighter's PAK-FA like 3-D thrust vectoring system that was in development ?







I have'nt heard of new news of this for a long time while the Russian 3D TVC super cruise engine (for the PAK-FA) has alredy been built and is in testing on a Su-30 test bed. There are pictures of this that have surfaced.



posted on Jul, 12 2005 @ 09:06 PM
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The Raptor can go mach 1.6 without afterburners so the AF official top sped as Mach 1.8 is BS more like 2.5 but the RAM will go bye bye if the Raptor does more than mach 2.
Anyways Mach 1 or just below is close to the transonic region its not true super cruising impressive never the less. But can the EF do this fully loaded? Can all version do this, what about the altitude? Some questions to keep in mind.



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 10:35 AM
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I swear in one of those photos it looks like the missile has a wooden bit where the flame comes out of (ok chill out I can't think of the proper terms atm).

Either way I still love the EF2000 but I did like the prototypes with twin tails



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 01:00 PM
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There's no doubt in my mind that the Eurofighter is the second most dangerous bird in the air today (Only the Raptor betters it, and perhaps the Su-37, neither of which are in large numbers yet).


Too bad you're wrong. As of right now, the F-22, the F/A-18E/F, the F-15C, and the Rafale are ahead of the Typhoon. Now with the exception of the F-22, it could change in 10 years, but as of right now, it is below the fighters I listed. And in 10 years from now, the F-35 will be the 2nd best BVR platform.



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 01:03 PM
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Dream on.......


I think he was kidding, notice the smileys. No nation will surpass the US in terms of missile technology, let alone aircraft technology.



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 03:19 AM
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Originally posted by Hockeyguy567


As of right now, the F-22, the F/A-18E/F, the F-15C, and the Rafale are ahead of the Typhoon.


One out of four is a terrible score hockeyguy


BTW. Try telling the guys of 17 and 29 Sqns that the F-15 is better than the Typhoon, they will point you to several frustrated F-15 pilots who will tell you different.


[edit on 18-7-2005 by waynos]



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 03:30 AM
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Originally posted by Hockeyguy567





Dream on.......


I think he was kidding, notice the smileys. No nation will surpass the US in terms of missile technology, let alone aircraft technology.


So how come the US industry has just launched a programme to develop a missile that will match or better the Meteor then?

Oh, thats right, you think the AIM 120C is superior to the Meteor don't you.


Your blind bias is amazing dude and I have finally been drawn into doing a little more than just reading your posts and grinning


I mean, the F/A-18E being better than Typhoon remark probably cracks me up the most when the RAF themselves have stated it comes nowhere near their requirement, which the Typhoon meets fully.

Incidentally the Typhoon pilot at Waddington who told he'd go up against anything qualified that comment by adding that 'we don't need to worry about the Raptor and ,OK it might be a bit close against the latest Flankers, but nothing else out there can touch us, *shake of head* No, nothing.

I reckon he would know.




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