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George Galloway (ATS Superstar) And The London Bombings

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posted on Jul, 8 2005 @ 10:41 PM
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Thank You Mr. Galloway!!!! Without you most western nations could have a hard time pointing to an "enemy within". Mr. Galloway's comments on the terrorist attacks of thursday just solidify that feeling that there are people who would excuse terrorists for a little political advantage. Without even giving a whole 24 hours to pass Mr. Galloway felt the need to go on TV and use the attacks to further his far left attacks on the British government. Applause to this failure of a politician and feeble minded psuedo-intellectual drainage spout. Bravo!!!!!!!!!!

To all those who think Mr. Galloway makes a good point............... don't you realize that the terrorists are targeting you? Not to kill you but to gain your simpathy, why else commit those attacks? Al Qeada made a political play with thursdays attacks, they were looking to drive a further rift in the British public over the war on terror. If they can use a bombing or two to drum up support for a withdraw from the war in Iraq than they win. Give them what they want, argue that the attacks are the fault of the war in Iraq, don't dare question the validity of killing men and women in a subway when the leaders of the war on terror are less than 500 miles away. Pawns. Pawns in a game of religous zealots and murderers, without you how could a bombing of civillians make a difference?

Mr. Galloway somehow has come to the rationale that by being tuff with terrorists abroad that the people of the UK should pay a price. Well sorry Mr. Galloway that the UK and US couldn't give you what you wanted; the destruction of Isreal and a surrender to socialism, those being the cornerstones of this man's belief system. I wonder if Mr. Galloway realizes or not, that the only reason he get's interviewed by the press is to drum up ratings, god only knows what this lunatic will say next to offend the masses. Here is a man with one of, if not the worst, attendence records in the British parliment to tell all the politicians who ACTUALLY vote how wrong they are for supporting a war against terror. Bravo!!!!!!

Here is a real conspiracy.................. A man who uses every press spot he can get to bad mouth the nation and the ideaology that gives him his freedom, uses it to attack, to grind his hate and contempt for freedom and free-thinking, to put salt into wounds just to get a raise out of people. The conspiracy is this.................... Why would anyone give this moron 5 seconds of the air? Simple...... to get a rise out of people and stir up some good melodrama. He is a pawn, a joke, a tool. The terrorists have to love him as he espouses a rhetoric that works in their favor, the same goes for those who want the the fight as he digs at the sores of those affected by terrorism. Stop listening to this fool, stop giving media whores the fresh blood they crave. Ignore this degenerate liar and give him the respect he deserves, that witch you would give a wad of gum you've stepped in.

Some Links:
news.telegraph.co.uk.../news/2005/07/09/npoll09.xml

Moreover, the bombings have failed - despite Mr George Galloway's best efforts - to undermine support for the British presence in Iraq. The proportion wanting British troops brought home quickly has fallen and the proportion who now want Britain to retain its close ties with the US has risen. The section of the chart headed "Assessing performance" tells a story of which Britons can be proud.


www.timesleader.com...

George Galloway, the sharp-tongued member of Parliament who flummoxed a U.S. Senate panel at a hearing in May on the Iraq oil-for-food scandal, went first. "We argued, as did the security services in this country, that the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq, would increase the threat of terrorist attack in Britain," Galloway told Parliament on Thursday. "Tragically, Londoners have now paid the price of the government ignoring such warnings."

Galloway, who was drummed out of Prime Minister Tony Blair's Labor party for his opposition to the Iraq war, drew sharp criticism from both sides of the aisle for his comments, with Conservatives calling him a "disgrace" and Armed Forces Minister Adam Ingram accusing him of "dipping his poisonous tongue in a pool of blood."


www.guardian.co.uk...

However, George Galloway, the Respect MP for Bethnal Green and Bow, broke the all-party consensus by calling for Mr Blair and George Bush to resign.

Speaking at a news conference near the London bus explosion, Mr Galloway said the anti-war movement had a duty to speak out against the policies he said were to blame for the spiral of violence.

"We have to put into reverse the policies which have led us to this."

Mr Galloway said the safety of the British public would continue to be threatened unless the government changed course over its policies in Iraq and Afghanistan.


Oh wait........................ This is my favorite. Here is a good calling out of Mr. Galloway and what it is he's done to the nation he is supposed to represent. If you can argue with this than you are blind to reality.

www.wpherald.com...

The only people who have tried so far are one sacked Labour Party politician who used to be an honored guest in Saddam Hussein's Baghdad, and who commented Thursday that "London paid the price," and a warmed-over left-wing student radical of 1968, Tariq Ali, who called the bombing "The Price of Occupation." Scion of a wealthy Pakistani family, Oxford graduate and now a prosperous TV producer, Ali should know all about price.

Neither of these men is taken very seriously, even though Galloway likes to don the mantle of martyr as he sues publications that dare suggest he was on Saddam's payroll, or makes a flying visit to testify before a U.S. Senate committee that accused him of benefiting from Saddam's 'oil for food' scam that has tarnished the reputation of the United Nations. He won re-election to parliament as an independent in the East End of London, in a majority Muslim district (mainly of Bangladeshi immigrants) with a well-funded campaign that was backed by the mosques, in the name of a [party called 'respect' that traded on Islamic resentments. If the election were held again today, after bombs on the doorstep of the Bangladeshi district, and with all the mosques and British Islamic groups denouncing the terrorists, Galloway would have a problem.


Go ahead tell me this man, Mr. Galloway didn't enable the attacks, tell me he makes a good arguement. Go ahead and state that by not confronting the radicals of the middle east that you would be safer. But you know that is wrong.

Winston Churchilll said of Chaimberlin......"He surrendered for peace, but he got war anyway". That is exactly the attitude that can save the freedoms and the ideals that have made the UK the beacon of hope for millions of immigrants from all corners of the planet.




posted on Jul, 9 2005 @ 02:19 PM
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i like Galloway, i think he is harmless politically, and all he is doing is continuing to say what he has been saying for the past few years.
there are bigger fish to worry about



posted on Jul, 9 2005 @ 07:09 PM
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We need people like him with his view on things, so people can decide about what is the truth. I don't say hes right or wrong but i like to hear his comments on whats happening today. Free speech has to be available to all , whether you like what they say or not.A lot of what he says is true about America and its politics nowadays.



posted on Jul, 9 2005 @ 08:27 PM
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Hiya, this is my first post!!!!

I feel that George Galloway is serious threat to the values of many British people, he attempts to disguise his anti-semitism by the popular stance of anti zionism which is sadly spreading in the UK, but despite this his true views and opions are all too clear. His great speaking abilities allow him to gain great favour among many, and this may be considered his most dangerous quality. Over the past years no matter how low he sinks in ethics and common decency he still manages to be attractive to many socialistic, anti American, anti semitic people both in the UK and abroad who see him as a person who can be turned to as guidance in how to hide their extremist views. I fear that too many people have been drawn in by his articulate and sharp natural abilities, and hope that instead they see him for who he truely is, a man born without ethics.

Sorry that my first post is so agressive, however I feel rather strongly on this subject. I promise to be a lot more friendly in future posts on this website.



posted on Jul, 9 2005 @ 08:33 PM
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Galloway is so clearly involved in the Oil for Food scandal that he's just trying to throw all the attention somewhere else. There is so much proof of his criminal involvement and violations of sanctions, that he should be sitting behind bars rather than appearing on TV with his liberal hate speech while the victims of this horrible and cowardly attack are still being dug out. What a scumbag.

God Bless Great Britain



posted on Jul, 9 2005 @ 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by Rasputin13
Galloway is so clearly involved in the Oil for Food scandal that he's just trying to throw all the attention somewhere else. There is so much proof of his criminal involvement and violations of sanctions, that he should be sitting behind bars rather than appearing on TV with his liberal hate speech while the victims of this horrible and cowardly attack are still being dug out. What a scumbag.

God Bless Great Britain



suppose you can provide some evidence?
seeing as i kinda like the guy, i wish there were more like him

[edit on 9-7-2005 by AdamJ]



posted on Jul, 9 2005 @ 11:05 PM
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Regardless of what you think of the man, he seems to be pointing out the obvious: Whatever strategies the US and UK were using the fight terror seem not to have resulted in increased safety.

-koji K.



posted on Jul, 9 2005 @ 11:19 PM
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Also, British Labor MP George Galloway, a strident foe of taking action against Saddam, is listed as a recipient or co-recipient of 19.5 million barrels.


I'd like to think that 19.5 million barrels of oil would change my opinion on just about anything! Now let's be extremely conservative with our figures... and let's say that he only received about half of that amount- 10 million barrels. And since this was before the recent price-jump in oil prices, lets be generous once again and say he sold these barrels at a cheap $20.00 USD a piece (any country would dream of buying oil this cheap!). Now assuming my US public education served me correctly, that's about 200 MILLION USD to oppose UN sanctions on Iraq and the subsequent invasion of Iraq. Heck, for that amount of money he should have mopped the floors in Saddam's palaces and given him a happy ending to top it all off!

And lets not forget some other fine points of George Galloway's character. Besides supporting Saddam and his Baathist regime, and receiving millions in oil vouchers, he also wholeheartedly supports Fidel Castro and his Communist regime, as well as Hugo Chavez and his leftist civil rights-abusing government! I'm wondering if Galloway is sitting on $200 million worth of Cuban cigar vouchers too!

And this, my friends, is just the tip of the iceberg. This guy is SCUM. He may talk a good talk, but so did Hitler. And speaking of which, Galloway reportedly shares many of Hitler's anti-Jew opinions.

As for a link... here's one to the Washington Times. If you want more information, simply type in "George Galloway" AND "oil for food scandal" AND evidence into Google. You'll get tons of hits. You'll have to use your own judgement, as always, when deciding which links have merit and which don't. Happy hunting!

www.washingtontimes.com...#



posted on Jul, 9 2005 @ 11:25 PM
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Regardless of what you think of the man, he seems to be pointing out the obvious: Whatever strategies the US and UK were using the fight terror seem not to have resulted in increased safety.


You'd also have to say then that Britain declaring war on Germany didn't result in increased safety either! At least not for the following 6 years. We're still in the early stages of this War on Terror, a conflict that could very well last for decades. We're going to take hits along the way, as is the case in any major conflict. But that's not a measurement of righteousness. Being afraid of terrorists is giving in to exactly what they want. Opposing the war in Iraq is giving them the very result that they intended for when they placed those explosives on crowded trains, killing and wounding innocent civilians.

Our goals are just. We cannot put our tails between our legs and throw up the white flags as though we're the French. Our cause, and our mission, is just as noble as it was when it began in the early hours of September 11, 2001. Don't let some smooth-talking, bribe-taking anti-semite convince you otherwise!

Let not your hearts be troubled! We are the good guys, and we WILL prevail!



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 12:10 AM
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thats it?



Galloway is so clearly involved in the Oil for Food scandal that he's just trying to throw all the attention somewhere else. There is so much proof of his criminal involvement and violations of sanctions


not good enough really is it, we have had the result of the hearing "just to make a record"
If and when any evidence is actually presented, beyond a newspaper article, maybe someone can bring criminal charges against him

[edit on 10-7-2005 by AdamJ]

[edit on 10-7-2005 by AdamJ]



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 11:07 AM
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Mr. Galloway has yet to explain the financial commitments to his Miriam Appeal by foriegn governments and secerative "business men". As for providing proof of his involvement in the oil for food scandle, well Mr. Galloway is very smart, rather than answer any questions directly he diverts by the following example; "Mr Galloway, asked about the Mariam Appeal by The Times, said: 'I regard you as a whore working for a pimp.' "(The Times). Further more should any investigation into the Finances of any Galloway group like Finjan Ltd, Miriam Appeal, Emergency Committee on Iraq and Palestine, etc. etc. etc. become too uncomfortable, Mr. Galloway goes to the courts to intervene in investigations by filing libel suits. Very smart, but what does this do to the idea of transperency in the charities or for that matter the finances of a British MP?

The Miriam Appeal from The Times Online

Mr Galloway made a promise to potential donors. He wrote on House of Commons paper pledging that, after paying for Mariam’s treatment in a Glasgow hospital, the rest of the money would go to medical aid for Iraqi children. In fact, according to the Register of Members’ Interests, Mr Galloway spent the Mariam Appeal’s cash on 14 foreign trips to 15 countries, including eight visits to Iraq.

The appeal did not restrict itself to healing sick children. It became a pressure group campaigning to lift, and claiming to bust, sanctions imposed on Saddam’s regime, while supporting the “Palestinian intifada” and a boycott of Israel.


Very deceptive. Use a fund to help sick children to further a political cause. Why would this need to be done? Was the support so lacking for this cause that it need be "hidden" in a sick childrens fund?

As for the money, follow the money right? Just not when Mr. Galloway is involved lest you find yourself in a libel case. Where does the money come from? Where does it go? Is all of the money properly reported?

The Times Online

Even close supporters cannot shed much light on its finances. Sabah al-Mukhtar, from the Arab Lawyers’ Network in London, became vice-president of the appeal and joined Mr Galloway on a publicity-seeking bus trip from Westminster to Baghdad.

When the bus arrived in November 1999, Mr Galloway made a long speech describing Mr al-Mukhtar as “our comrade in arms” and hailing Saddam’s Deputy Prime Minister, Tariq Aziz, as “my dear, dear friend”.

Mr Galloway has identified Fawaz Zukeirat as one of the main financial sponsors of the Mariam Appeal, along with the governments of the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. The MP said the appeal received about £1 million in five years, more than half of that from the UAE Government. Mr al-Mukhtar, a former legal adviser to Iraq’s national oil company, told The Times yesterday that the money for the Mariam Appeal had come mainly from the ruler of Abu Dhabi, Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan, with small donations such as £5 and £2 from members of the public.


Another link to the story on the Miriam Appeal investigation. I know it's an old story but it still hasn't been answered fully.
news.bbc.co.uk...

Should ATS get the oppotuninty to interview Mr. Galloway again the questions about his ties to middle east leaders and financial dealings should certainly be included. Limiting the questions to only those that give him and his stances favorable light certainly do not constitute "Denying Ignorance". Beware though, asking tuff questions may lead to being called "a whore" or worse a libel suit against ATS.

Mr. Galloway has won some of the libel suits including a settlement by the Christian Science Monitor who had already apologized for running a story on forged documents it had recieved in Iraq. I'm not going to say that the man has not been attacked unfairly in the past, in fact he has. The point I wish to bring foward is that there are still many questions about his activities and they have yet to be answered. The smear stories have helped him to retain influence when they prove to be false, that is sad in that the real stories surrounding Mr. Galloway get muddied in the process. I don't think this man would be a MP if he didn't represent a heavily Muslim district and didn't have the support of ant-war groups in the UK and abroad. If George Galloway had to run on his record in the parliment or on his socialist politics he could never be elected, it is only the ant-war/anti-Blair rhetoric that gives him any attention.



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 12:08 PM
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once again though, this is very sketch evidence coming from a newspaper.
You are talking about one person and one charity fund, yet George Galloway, in terms of global politics, remains someone without any influence.

If he has connections to people in the middle east i suppose that makes him connected to terrorism? or the Oil for food scandal? i still see no evidence.

Talking about using charity funds to pay for private flights, is one thing and i may say a minor crime, which i am sure goes on all the time with the directors of charities. I dont know galloways involvement in the miriam appeal, if he owns it and set it up then he is justified to some extent in using some funds to pursue the charities Iraq.

If we want to talk about scandals and political funding and suspitious connections, Galloway shouldnot be at the top of anybodys list.
I think that george galloway is working hard to fund his own political beliefs, the type of beliefs that you dont get given money for free for having.
Just talke a look at the outrageous number of connections between Bush and terrorism, middle east, and corruption.

I believe Galloway gets to much focus and attention, it is a result of people not wanting to aknowledge where the real corruption is, instead trying to attack some small fish attempting himself and his un PC political views.

Anyone who really cares about corruption has more serious things to concrentrate on than Galloway, Also there is still a serious lack of evidence of any of the claims being made.



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 03:49 PM
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@AdamJ,

Feels strange saying that as oddly enough i too am an Adam J btw!!!

I fear that the reason many people find it easy to support Galloway's point of view is his great speaking ability, and strength at indentifing with ordinary people, there is no doubt that this is the reason for his great succes. As many less articulate people if they were to be marred by the same filth which Galloway seems to enjoy basking in, would without a shadow of a doubt fall from favour. So I ask you to look past the exterior of this man and look at the morals and ethics deep inside him, I can assure you will see a truly horrible person.



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 05:04 PM
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What I don't understand is why Al Quida is stupid enough to attack a nation days away from pulling out their armed forces in the middle-east? The U.K. had the final decision to pull their forces out because of public uprises against the war. Now, Al Quida is the leading 'terrorist' group in the world, these people are NOT stupid, no matter what your prejudices may think.

Why, would such highly trained 'terrorists' attack and provoke MORE bloodshed in their homeland when the people they attack are days away from getting out of their homeland? They do not benefit, so WHY? I will tell you why, its a matter of Cui Bono. (Latin for 'who benefits') The easiest way to figure out a perpatrator it to find out whom benefits from the act!

Who benefits from the war on terror in general? We get to keep the 'terrorists' at bay, We get to provoke more fighting to meet our oil demand, We get to establish our ways of government in foreign land and insure democrasy in more parts of the world to supply our mass corperatization.

COME ON PEOPLE! Get a grip, we had provoked the war, we committed 9/11 and now, WE are bombing england! It is all for fuel, democrasy and control. HE lied, THEY died, keep the peasants TERRIFIED!



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 05:14 PM
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George Galloway's comments during the immediate aftermath of the London bombings are disgusting and shameful. I hope he is severely chastized by one and all.



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 05:21 PM
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If he is such a great ATS icon why isn't he here thanking you guys for your kind words toward him. Hes just another politician no big deal...



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 06:29 PM
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No im not gonna change my mind on him, we can deal with the problems of george galloway if or when he becomes a mover and shaker in the world.

Until that time i think it prudent to concentrate more anger at the people who actually have a say in how things are being run.
It is the same illogical paradigm, if that is the right term, that exists in peoples opinions on English Politics at the moment. For example, the Liberal party have not been in power in england for one heck of a long time, yet i continue to here 'bloody liberals' blamed for every problem going.

Galloway is just an easy target in my opinion, there is real serious corruption going on i hear about. The list is actually enless but for example, a story i heard of the FBI director at a security conference in March 2001 talking about discussions on what sort of event to cause in New York to help get through the ID Card and Microchip plans.

I hear all sorts of stories, i see alot more corruption going on than i think people are willing to acknowledge. I am sure Galloway is not perfect but he hardly logically qualifies as uk public enemy number 1 right at the moment, in my opinion, though i understand peoples attitudes toward him.

Visor Consultants should be everyones priority at the moment. I am seriously gonna turn up at their offices and start asking questions if i dont see any developments in the media on that story.
www.abovetopsecret.com...


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[edit on 10-7-2005 by AdamJ]



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 06:51 PM
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It is clear to me that Mr. Gallowy clearly has his enemies confused. To speak of the attackes on London as a retaliation because of the UK's support of the war in Iraq, and blame the British govornment for it, is just wrong. The support of the war may be the reason for the attacks (there is no way to know this early exactly who the culprit is), but the evil people who actually committed this crime against innocent people are the ones that are to blame. Why does he feel a need to put blame on the British government? They are only trying to stand up for freedom of the people. The real culprit is the people behind these attacks on the free people, all they are trying to do is put fear in the people and try to divert their governments from trying to spread freedom through out the world. What is soo wrong with trying to give people the power to VOTE for their leaders. Who will represent them in the world, and help make thier laws which they must live by. Shouldn't they have a VOICE??



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by Apration
It is clear to me that Mr. Gallowy clearly has his enemies confused. To speak of the attackes on London as a retaliation because of the UK's support of the war in Iraq, and blame the British govornment for it, is just wrong. The support of the war may be the reason for the attacks (there is no way to know this early exactly who the culprit is), but the evil people who actually committed this crime against innocent people are the ones that are to blame. Why does he feel a need to put blame on the British government? They are only trying to stand up for freedom of the people. The real culprit is the people behind these attacks on the free people, all they are trying to do is put fear in the people and try to divert their governments from trying to spread freedom through out the world. What is soo wrong with trying to give people the power to VOTE for their leaders. Who will represent them in the world, and help make thier laws which they must live by. Shouldn't they have a VOICE??


Galloway doesnt share your views, he thinks they are invading for economic reasons and he is very upset about the 100,000+ Iraqi civilians killed, so he has no problem voicing his opinions if the next 50+ that die happen to be British.



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 07:00 PM
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Indeed the Liberal party has not been in power for many years despite their merger with the social democrat party years ago. But the name of a political part does not define too much as to their values, socialism is considered nearly the opposite of facism, yet the name was shared by many extremist parties in the 1930's. Infact the way that we see right wing and left wing is merely an attempt to simplify a deeply complicated relationship between different parties. Labour was at the time of its conception an extrem left wing party yet now challange the conservatives for those crucial middle right votes.

Back to the original point however Galloway has had an axe to grind for far too many years now, im not even sure if he himself feels the way he does, yet this is none the less the political stance which he has chosen to take. As much as a dispise the man for his views and hatred, I feel an odd admiration of his ability to sink to unseen depths of morals and yet seems to bounce back.

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