It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by infinite
This isnt the same group that attack New York
What attacked London is a home grown sleeper cell, which has link to Al Qaeda. This is why the top of Al Qaeda haven't spoken or came forward.
i am surprised at the lack of people probing and questioning this attack, and even more surprised by the people completely buying the stories they are hearing about it.
Until the full investigation is completed ANYBODY could have been behind the attacks. Again I repeat keep an open mind.
Originally posted by PurityOfPeace
...but i am surprised at the lack of people probing and questioning this attack, and even more surprised by the people completely buying the stories they are hearing about it.
Do people really think that those with the unlimited financial, political, and intelligence resources to carry out this worldwide scam don't have puppets way down the command tree who think they are suicide-bombing for Jihad or something?
Originally posted by lost
i would like to point out the 'full investigation' for 911 still isnt complete. it was stonewalled.
london, 4 years later;
angry public: so whats the verdict?!!
official story: uh, sneaky invisible terrorists. bad ones! yeah....
Originally posted by wecomeinpeace
Incidents like these are what sorts the hobbyists from the true believers. We were all duped on 9-11, and it's happening all over again. And I thought there was some hope left...
"...they shall deceive the very elect."
Originally posted by wecomeinpeace There is no way that the lower-downs would know that their entire movement was a controlled exercise and that their "glorious leader" was working toward a completely different agenda and for different masters.
Originally posted by Odium
Hunting Veritas have you got any sources for that? I have never seen any saying the U.K. funded and/or trained them.
The 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan galvanized bin Laden. He supported the Afghan resistance, which became a jihad, or holy war. Ironically, the U.S. became a major supporter of the Afghan resistance, or mujahideen, working with Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to set up Islamic schools in Pakistan for Afghan refugees. These schools later evolved into virtual training centers for Islamic radicals.
Wiki - British SAS
Allegedly some troopers (officially ex-members of the Regiment) fought in the Vietnam War and helped Mujahideen in Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion. There was also official SAS training of Mujahideen in Scotland in the 1980s, with particular emphasis on shooting down Russian helicopters. Some ex-members have also become mercenaries or Private military contractors.
Wiki - Afghan Mujahideen
The most well-known, and feared, mujahideen were the various loosely-aligned opposition groups that fought against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan between 1979 and 1989, and then fought against each other in the following civil war. These mujahideen were significantly financed, armed, and trained by the United States (under the presidencies of Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan), Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and China. Reagan referred to these mujahideen as "freedom fighters ... defending principles of independence and freedom that form the basis of global security and stability."  In Western popular culture, the mujahideen were portrayed favourably in the popular actions films The Living Daylights and Rambo III. After the Soviets withdrew, the mujahideen broke into two loosely-aligned opposing factions, the Northern Alliance and the Taleban, which then engaged in civil war for control of Afghanistan.
A wealthy Saudi named Osama bin Laden was a prominent mujahideen organizer and financier; his Maktab al-Khadamat (MAK) (Office of Services) funnelled money, arms, and Muslim fighters from around the world into Afghanistan, with the assistance and support of the American, Pakistani, and Saudi governments. In 1988, bin Laden broke away from the MAK.
Wiki - Al-Qaeda
Al-Qaeda (Arabic: القاعدة - al-Qā‘idah, "the foundation" or "the base") is the name given to an international alliance of militant Islamist organizations. Originally built from the cadre of Saudi-funded Arab fighters who flocked to join the mujahideen resistance movement against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, it seeks to establish, via military and terrorist tactics, a radical form of Islamist ideology to supplant both current regimes in the Middle East and eventually Western society as a whole. The group places itself in confrontation with the United States, because the U.S. and other liberal democracies stand between Al-Qaeda and the achievement of its extremist objectives. Another reason for their conflict with the United States is their perception that certain aspects of Western culture and values are incompatible with Islam. Al-Qaeda has masterminded and inspired terrorist attacks against both civilian and military targets around the world.
Originally posted by Hunting Veritas
ahhhhhh but remember this.
The UK/US armed forces trained and funded Al-Q in the beginning. Whats to say they're not now???
Originally posted by AlwaysLearning
What about this...two months before 9/11 Bin Laden was in a U.S. hospital in Saudi Arabia getting kidney treatment. Google it...apparently he was visited by family and CIA members... (his old stomping ground!)
A little too close to comfort wouldn't you say for America's number 1 enemy. I mean how long had they been "looking for him" ?