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Originally posted by AlwaysLearning
all of these occurrences are a means to an end.
Originally posted by Frosty
I've questioned the aftermath of the situation. Who wins? Well, are you naive enough to say UK and the US win or would you be sensible to state the the perpetraitors stand to gain?I don't see how the UK citizens or government stand to gain, I'd love to hear other wise. The blame so far has gone to Jihad of Europe in Secret or some group, though this takes time to verify and establish as a fact.
There is very little to assess from this event other than who are the victims. Speculate all you want, but if you plan on convincing people with half a brain that our governments planned this, then you better find something tangile.
Originally posted by masqua
who is behind it? It may very well not be Bushco or Tony...It would not surprise me to find out they are totally innocent of any prior knowledge.
But there is this nagging notion in me which cannot leave my thoughts today... we are not being told the truth, we are being fed disinformation (and if it was Al Q, they are a bunch of losers which cannot get their timing right for maximum damage).
Originally posted by Frosty
Jeez, listen to yourselves. You are insinuating that 3,000 people in the US and dozens in the UK had to die for the sake of a National ID card or some other stupid cause.
Originally posted by Snoopdopey
Show some respect guys for  sake.
You can all wank yourselfs silly over your pathetic conspiracy later.
Shadow govts planting bombs and working for the NWO, what a load of .
I'm probably going to get warnings over this but i don't mind, someone has to say this to you lot.
Time to join the real world boys.
Bunch of bloody muppets, honestly.
Mod Edit: to remove profanity....please stop...
[edit on 7-7-2005 by kinglizard]
Originally posted by warthog911
It has not to do with id cards man,It has to do with the 4th reich, the NWO.Ain't is coincidence that 4 bombs were used in the london serial blast,4 bombs were used in the madrid train bombings and 4 planes were used in 9\11.It is a subliminal message imo.
Originally posted by wecomeinpeace
I find it ironic that people starting threads like these are criticized for supposedly using the attacks to push their political agenda, when that is exactly what our governments are doing by carrying out these bogus "terrorist" attacks, and is exactly what people starting these threads are attempting to highlight.
Furthermore, there are members around who are usually all for the NWO theories and such, yet when an incident occurs, they become emotional sheep like everybody else and start shaking their fists at the "Islamic extremists". I guess it's a fun hobby to talk about dark, spooky conspiracies on ATS all day, but when one is actually in your face, all that you have learnt and discussed is cast aside like some toy. It's amazing, but if you took a poll of this conspiracy discussion website now and asked how many believe the attacks were legitimate terrorist attacks, you would get an 80-90% positive figure.
Incidents like these are what sorts the hobbyists from the true believers. We were all duped on 9-11, and it's happening all over again. And I thought there was some hope left...
"...they shall deceive the very elect."