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WHo believs that 9\11 and the london serial bomb blasts awere done by the shadow govt for NWO

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posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 06:39 AM
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I believe cuz it is impossible for such a large operation to go unnoticed by intelligence agencies.It is a distraction for the implementation of NWO.


Also it is intresting to note that the tube was shut down an hour before the blasts(according to a user post in the TA alert thread) and if there are not sufficient cctv material i am calling it conspiracy.
links:
www.terroranalysis.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.prisonplanet.com...
prisonplanet.com...

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[edit on 7-7-2005 by warthog911]

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posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 07:01 AM
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They could want us to accept ID cards and scare us into agreeing with them to control the public. ID card provide no help in an explosion, if someone living in London wanted to build a bomb an ID card will not stop them. Any muslim group can get together and decide to attack us and guess what a lot of mulslims already live in london.
The world will unite against povety,
against terrorism
in help of disaster
in a sporting occation.

John Prescot said the olympics will unite the world in a TV programme yesterday. People will be forced to unite instead of being told.



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 07:04 AM
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Ordo-Ab-Cheo. That's the REAL agenda of the G8. These guys are after global controle and are obviously willing to get that at any cause.



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 07:07 AM
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The more I watch the leaders of the world the less it seems they are invoved in some sort of NWO, its either spiritual warfare or some under current of events and misinformation bringing it together. People working within the governments that have no trace.



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 07:16 AM
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well, NPR was running stories about the olympics going to London all day yesterday, even had on the owner of the oldest salmon smoker in the city, been there over 100 years and well, he just build a new plant, part of the same revitalization project that will now kick his business out to make room for the olympics!!

but another interesting little tidbit I learned was that some much needed improvements to the transit system will be needed to accomodate them....

well, since we're into conspiracy theories anyways, guess they won't be getting too much griping now from the populace when they start sinking the money into their DAMAGED transit system.



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 07:17 AM
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well, NPR was running stories about the olympics going to London all day yesterday, even had on the owner of the oldest salmon smoker in the city, been there over 100 years and well, he just build a new plant, part of the same revitalization project that will now kick his business out to make room for the olympics!!

but another interesting little tidbit I learned was that some much needed improvements to the transit system will be needed to accomodate them....

well, since we're into conspiracy theories anyways, guess they won't be getting too much griping now from the populace when they start sinking the money into their DAMAGED transit system.



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by The time lord
The more I watch the leaders of the world the less it seems they are invoved in some sort of NWO, its either spiritual warfare or some under current of events and misinformation bringing it together. People working within the governments that have no trace.


Come on man! It's in your face. Obviously you're just blinded by the 'light'.



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 07:41 AM
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I was in London 5 weeks ago. YES. Riding the tube, riding to Russell Square station many times. I was staying 3 streets away from the Russell Square tube station!!! And also had several months before 5 weeks ago. From spending time in London I had already noted this is the most SURVEILLANCED well policed, safest place in the world. After this recent explosion the government should have NO TROUBLE finding out who did the attacks. The entire city is surveillanced live on CCTV or security camera, YES every corner and every shop believe it or not!!!! The press will HAVE to release the names and identify the people that did it, shortly. They probably already know. But before I read any of the posts above I already believed it was done by the illuminati/people in higher power that are in association with the NWO. I believe it was done as this was THE BEST occasion. Not only was it orchestrated at a time that London won the Olympics but because they won them in the year 2012!!! The most controversial year that many believe is the apocalypse. Also, this terror event happened durign the G8 summit where the worlds most powerful leaders are meeting. But yes, it happened JUST BEFORE the meeting. What better timing!!! Yes, now the worlds most powerful leaders can add terrorism subtly to the agenda, what a coincidence!!! Yes, they can yet again add another 10 anti-terrorism bills, patriot acts, anti-rave acts, anti-dance acts, bug the entire city through audio surveillance (already in burger king in South Australia and various european places I've personally been to) and install the microchips that they've been longing to put in us like on the movie Manchurian Candidate!!! Just as I was beginning to think all my time spent on ATS/illuminati/NWO research was beginning to sound unreal this dodgy terrorism attack strengthens my beliefs of the orchestration and reality of the NWO. A question is: would the terror attack have happened in London if Paris had wont the Olympic games? My view is no, it would've happened in Paris. This is a suggestion that rather than thinking there are waiting active sleeper terrorist cells in Paris, London. New York, and the other Olympic candidate cities, it is more likely that the result of London winning was already known to the NWO, thus they had time to plant and orchestrate the attacks.



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 07:41 AM
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``

adding fuel to the fire...

even the sketchy news analysis has put forth the information
that the double decker bus explosion
(most likely a terrorist, & maybe a zealot martyr)
would have done more civilian casualities
If they would have positioned the bomb on the 1st level

as it was...the upper deck explosion, was not as deadly,
but was highly visible
so, i'm given to wonder, if any Shadow Government entity
was privy to a covert attack by someone
& piggy-backed their own incident,
to add to the public fear
and assist their own agendas
which, i think warthog911 is alluding to



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by warthog911
I believe cuz it is impossible for such a large operation to go unnoticed by intelligence agencies.It is a distraction for the implementation of NWO.


Also it is intresting to note that the tube was shut down an hour before the blasts(according to a user post in the TA alert thread) and if there are not sufficient cctv material i am calling it conspiracy.

[edit on 7-7-2005 by warthog911]

[edit on 7-7-2005 by warthog911]


The point re the tube shutdown was me - it was the Northern Line and Clapham South & Balham that were closed early this AM . 7.15. My g/f had to come back and get a taxi. Tube line closures are not unknown!!!! but there's normally a technical or 'incident' (usually a jumper or a suspicious package) reason given.

On the TA QRF I'll try and find the link. Part of the TA but on different retention / alert status. Bear in mind there are loads of troops in London. all the ceremonial are front-line / armed too. There's the Scimitar armed cavalry @ Windsor, HQ UK Special Forces @ Chelsea etc etc.

If they needed troops ASAP they've got them in spades!



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by Olafski
Come on man! It's in your face. Obviously you're just blinded by the 'light'.


And I see that your well placed blinders are likewise working exceptionally well.
Next time, if you do not want your comment and/or opinion ridiculed, how about abstain from doing so to others.

A respected opinion will undoubtedly allow your opinion to be respected.
Comprende'?






seekerof

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posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 08:00 AM
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At this point, all i am going to say is that it is very convienent that an attack happen with all important world leaders together, and able to pose for a "United" picture with one another.



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by Seekerof

Originally posted by Olafski
Come on man! It's in your face. Obviously you're just blinded by the 'light'.


And I see that your well placed blinders are likewise working exceptionally well.
Next time, if you do not want your comment and/or opinion ridiculed, how about abstain from doing so to others.

A respected opinion will undoubtedly allow your opinion to be respected.
Comprende'?



seekerof

[edit on 7-7-2005 by Seekerof]



My apologies Seekerof, I respect your authority. I got a little carried away, but it's so frustrating to know the truth and not being able to convince others.


[edit on 7-7-2005 by Olafski]



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 08:14 AM
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Not "done" like you put it, but "allowed to happen" maybe.


Usually they know of these things in advance the question usually is: do we let them go ahead or not?

That in turn is answered by the "waht do we have to gain question". The timing after the olympic bid and the G8 conference is just too good to be true



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 08:18 AM
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Re; the 'TA QRF'.

It's called the CCRF, formed a few years ago
news.bbc.co.uk...


I can only find details re: the North-West UK CCRF
www.army.mod.uk...

London CCRF is formed from companies of this lot,among others : www.army.mod.uk...



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 08:44 AM
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I'm asking a very simple question...

Put yourself into the mind of Al Q terrorists and consider the planning...

You have these parameters...G8 in Scotland, Live 8 in England (preplanned events which were fully covered in the press) and a really good idea of when peak transit times are in the City of London.

As you sit down to preplan your attack, you would be thinking...go for maximum impact, right?

So, I wonder why it was scheduled, like 911, to happen at a time when the numbers of victims would be lessened?

I have read that Al Q targets 'symbols' of capitalism and democracy...and 911 certainly has that qualification, but Spain, Bali, and this action are not representative of this trend. These attacks are done in the attempt to panic the populations...they're personnel targets...civilians like you and I.

It's as if the planners figured to minimize the death toll through timing and yet have the effect of terrorizing the public.

It's very nice to have a willing scapegoat who can be counted on to take responsibility for these actions, especially since they are incognita and have the substance of ghosts.

Personally...there were better targets...G8 and Live 8. Why this now? It doesn't make sense to my military stratagem training.

All the hated leaders are in close proximity and yet they never tried for them...something smells off to me,



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 08:46 AM
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I believe cuz it is impossible for such a large operation to go unnoticed by intelligence agencies.It is a distraction for the implementation of NWO.


MI5 told Israel that them embassy could be a potential target today.

To the title of this thread, the "shadow government" in this country is the second largest party in the house of parilament i.e the oppoistion, they are the shadow government and they have no power.

MI5 have always said the UK is the next target for Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda have always said "we're next"

No NWO, No shadow government, islamic extremists are behind it.



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 08:58 AM
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I still remain a believer in that the shadow government/bilderberg conspiracy. I believe a systematic turn of events on route to completing a world domination agenda, and with terrorism on their side. I have an extremely difficult time accepting the terrorist organization name of "secret organization al-qaida in Europe" which to me spells out complete BS. As long as "Al-Qaida in Iraq" exists and "Al-Qaida of the quickymart" continue to terrorize, we'll continue to live in fear and surrender our freedoms and constitutions to these powerful maniacs. I have already witnessed ATS members demanding sympathy and silence to NWO responsiblity theories because of fear and denile.

It's only a matter of time now before ID cards/chips are accepted, protesters will become anarchists who are classified as domestic terrorists, life long Presidential terms because they have a mission to complete, etc etc etc.



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 09:07 AM
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How can you people sit at your computers and spout endless reams of nonsense about how simple white Christian folk could perpetrate such an atrocity.

It is plainly obvious to all that we are increasingly being subjected to siege conditions by a highly sophisticated, well financed, well supported group of FOREIGNERS that are very soon going to completely overrun our nation and impose upon us, by force, the customs and laws that all CIVILISED human being utterly deplore.

The only way to combat such a threat is simple - Close all borders, deport any person mildly perceived as possibly having a small amount of sympathy for any group that is suspected of maybe wanting to possibly think about planning to explode a very small device anywhere in the world at any point in the future, furnish all legitimate citizens with a compulsory ID system and employ a large proportion of society to act as an intelligence militia in order to more closely monitor the activities of all citizens.

I won't sleep well in my bed until such measures are put in place, and anyone who disagrees with me is obviously a potential terrorist.



posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 09:08 AM
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They reported shooting a terrorist only to retract the statement.
There was training this morning for a terrorist attack in London.
Tube stations shut down prior to blasts.
Surveillance absolutely everywhere in London.

A step closer to NWO, the laws now will be more draconian than ever before, bye bye freedoms.




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