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Five American insurgents being detained in Iraq

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posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 02:02 PM
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Mr Kar is described as a patriotic American who believed in spreading democracy around the world.

A former Navy Seal raised in the western US, he had gone to Iraq to film part of a documentary about an enlightened ancient Persian king.


this is intresting because it also says he was cleard by the FBI
news.bbc.co.uk...




posted on Jul, 7 2005 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by XphilesPhan
I really wish we had better screening methods of new american citizens.


In Los Angeles, relatives identified him as Cyrus Kar, 44, a U.S. Navy veteran who lives in that city

How, precisely, would one determine that a guy, who was a child when he came to the US, and who volutneered for the military, would do something like this 4 decades after being admitted into the US?


You can't. If a person is a criminal, you don't let them in. If they've got obvious ties to terrorists, then you don't let them in. How's that supposed to stop this sort of thing? J.W. Lindh was born in the US, you can't predict what people will do.

These people should be tried for treason by military tribunal and shot or hung or whatever they do to traitors nowadays.

No, they should be shot or hung, not what they do with admited traitors and spies, which is send them to prison for a few years.

The actions of these people definitely fit the Constitutional definition of treason

Its patently obvious that they've commited treason, along with Lindh. Anyone that needs that explained to them is completely dettached.

westpoint
they don't deserve our rights they should be stripped of their citizenship after they are shot for treason.[/quote
In theory, the act of taking up arms agains the US militiary resulted in the instant loss of their citizenship, making them simply enemy combatants.


this is intresting because it also says he was cleard by the FBI

Its entirely possible that Kar is in fact completely innocent, they don't state what in particular made him so suspicious. It is a little different from Lindh, who was captured on the field of battle working with the enemy. Their case is more like with Padilla, except that they were caught in foreign territory (whereas padilla went to foreign territory, met with terrorists, and returned to the US, there is a disctinction between US soil and foreign soil).



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