Are you trying to convine us the the Earth cas created in 6 days? Or just presenting a reference guide to laugh at?

My, Oh, my the movement to kill sciences and geological time frames is really getting ridiculous.

What amazed me is how people will dump scientific research for so called "experts" opinions on the Geological age of the earth.

Incredible.

But hey some will believe anything now a days.

Kent Hovind ("Dr. Dino") is not really a doctor, and has long since been proven to be full of lies and deception here on this and other websites.

Those are answers only for the witless who refuse to make any effort to open their minds and learn reality.

perhaps it is all of you who are no willing to open up your minds. maybe before making conclusions, why not open up your mind and acutally read what he has to say, and it might acutally make sense. i have read both on evolution and creation; both are theories yes, but creationism makes more sense than evolution. what you are doing is shifting the burden of proof, and challenging the creditablily of Dr. Hovind, without giving any further proof that evolution is indeed science and not a religion.

I think that, arguably, most people here have pretty open minds. I have read some of Hovind's crap and it is crap. Answersingenesis.org, TrueOrigin.org, and some other creationist websites (there is a forum index thread for them) are EXCEEDINGLY better than that guy's. See? I couldn't admit something positive about creationist websites if I didn't have an open mind.

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well i am just happy that you are letting yourself become exposed to the flip side. that is what i want....to deny ignorance.

but what part of the website do u find is crap in particular?

Originally posted by Joshm2u
but what part of the website do u find is crap in particular?

Each part after drdino.com/

Hovind is not a doctor of any type.

I'm very familiar with the Bible, and at one point was convinced I might be "of the cloth" as I studied diligently. Now, I'm an atheist with a solid background in Biblical study... the kind of person that the "Dr. Dino's" tend to fear.


Tell me... Josh... why must the concept of evolution be excluded from the Biblical story of creation?



(And we say it often enough, but in science, "theory" means pretty much generally accepted facts. For example, the "theory of gravity" is pretty well accepted.)

Well said Nygdan, well said.

This is from Dr. Hovind himself.

Dr. Hovind (A): If the universe is not billions of years old, then we need not bother with the other arguments supporting evolution.

This is the same argument that most young creationist hold to their scientific facts.

It encourage intellectual stagnation and education. Indeed if you want to stop free thinking and empirical research lets Mr. Hovind theories tell the truth along with all young creationist.

wow you guys definaly know much more about hovind than i do. all i know about him is from his video series taht my cousin started showing me abotu creation. i know the bible quite well, and most of his things make sense, and although all of you make very valid points, its not really him im believing in, it is God and creationism.

They make sense to people who don't know anything about science because it sounds good.

Originally posted by Joshm2u
its not really him im believing in, it is God and creationism.

What do you find convincing about creationism? I don't mean that flippantly.

who cares if he isnt really a doctor. that doesnt mean that things that he says arent right. some professors sound like they are smarter than him, but "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" Romans 1:22

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

(And we say it often enough, but in science, "theory" means pretty much generally accepted facts. For example, the "theory of gravity" is pretty well accepted.)

Umm, Skeptic, sir? I don't mean to step on your toes here, but isn't your "theory", pretty generally referred to, nowadays, as the "Law of gravity"? * runs away and hides under the couch*



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