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NEWS: Live 8, The Greatest Show On Earth, Begins !

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posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 02:09 AM
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Live 8 the greatest show on earth ever and the brainchild of ex-rockstar Bob Geldolf has kicked off in Tokyo. Eight main concerts in each of the G8 countries will be beamed live across the planet and viewed by hundreds of millions of people in the developed world in an effort to marshal public opinion behind the 'Make Poverty History' campaign ahead of the G8 conference in Edinburgh later.
 



The first of the Live 8 anti-poverty concerts has got under way in Tokyo, ahead of other shows around the world.
Icelandic singer Bjork, UK band McFly and US rockers Good Charlotte will play at the Japanese show, which got under way at 0600 BST.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


This is an effort to talk directly to those that the politicians, who will decide Africa's fate, rely on the most, those that voted them in.

Only a groundswell of public support can persuade our leaders that an agenda of narrow national self interest is no longer acceptable.

Only by seizing this moment can we Make Poverty History

For more information please visit the official Live 8 website: www.live8live.com...



[edit on 2-7-2005 by John bull 1]

[edit on 3-7-2005 by John bull 1]




posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 02:50 AM
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For those who may not be aware, today Pink Floyd is reuniting for a few numbers for Live8, which is Bob Geldoff's production.

Let's see some action!

Zip



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 04:39 AM
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Hate to be the first nay-sayer, but here it goes. Big whoop. A concert. How is this going to change anything? Did Woodstock change anything? Did Live-Aid? No. Its a concert. Plain and simple.

For them to sell it as anything else is wrong. Someone is making gob-money off of this and I dont think its Africa. And Floyd reuniting is nothing more than a pre-curser to a tour. What better publicity. Remember who the star of "The Wall" was. It probably wasnt that hard. Besides, they all gotta be close to broke now, anyways. Couple of years on the road, and their set.

Besides. Why should Africa get relief? Can't countries delcare bankruptcy in international court somewhere? Anyrate, its their mess, why do we gotta clean it up. I say we repo the continent. Lots of good real estate there.

Anyways. Just wanted to say that Bob Geldoff is a pompous ass, who is pretty much responsible to the death of Michael Hutchens, and is loaded ($$) with reasons to promote this show.

And besides who is he anyways....."The Boomtown Rats"?? Please.

I guarantee that Africa will still be broke-ass after this show, and nothing will change. I highly doubt the worlds governments are swayed by concert. They probably have no idea who any of the bands are, and woudlnt give two #s if they did.

That being said, its an awesome lineup, Bob Geldoff is a piece of #, and Africa needs a lot more than a concert.










-- Spliff --out



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 06:09 AM
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Spliff I think your name probably sums up your thought process when posting that, thats fine but maybe clouds your perception of reality a bit


Live Aid did achieve something. There are poeple alive now who would have died as children if it wasnt for Live Aid. Woodstock was one of the precursors and expressions of the change in society and the whole peace and love shift in consciousness in some at the time.

I think you might find that pink Floyd are not short of any money either.

The thing is you see This can change things if we choose too become part of it. I have sent a nmber of emails and contacted politicians about this whole issue, pressuring the very people we vote into power.

Today in Edinburgh 120,000 peole are marching and creating a White band around the city to symbolise the whole Make Poverty History Campaign. They and us Vote and give the power to these guys, so lets let them know that the excuses are enough its been going on too long and we and they can stop it.

Spliff the biggest tradgedy of humankind is that we dont realise or understand that society has the power not the politicians, dont let them make you apathetic and play the subserviant role to the state. Society , people together peacefully with a single goal can make that dream and vision a reality. Write and email, phone your elected representatives, use the link that John Bull provided above to get involved . Do something about it! regain your citizenship and power, make your voice heard and maybe we can make that dream real, make the world a better place. At the least move the reality for the Humanity who are now dying today NOW! closer to that goal and the right of Humanity.

Its going to be a great day for us to regain our common humanity together. Since the earliest times people have danced and partied to have fun and celebrate and get closer to each other. Well today all of the world can party and celebrate ourselves. But also lets all do a bit of the political jive to and just do that one thing today one peacefull honest expression to someone who you put in power to take notice. People can think what they want of Geldof but Live 8 aint asking for money because theres enough in the world anyway!

you were right spliff if this was set up as just an aid excercise yep tommorrow and the next day and the next day ad infinitum people would still be dying there. Some saved by the initial aid but the system would be same. Live 8 wants people to do something about it, and then we can change things for ever! its up to all of us by what we do wether we change things or not. Its not up to the politicians if we want a differant world if we just exercise our power peacefully.

MischeviouslyDefendingHumanity



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 06:39 AM
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Live 8, nothing more than a cynical attempt to influence world leaders prior to their Behind-closed-doors planning for our futures and scrabbling for ever more power and corporate favours


I see solutions to some of the troubles of the African continent but doubt there would ever be a political figure with the backbone to propose it, pursue it or even give it more than a millisecond thought.

As I see it, all of these G8 member countries have large standing armies, airforces and navies. All the personnel are paid, whether they are on exercise or back at camp. There are civil engineering units with heavy machinery and personnel expertise. There are airforces with huge airlift capacity to move the machinery and personnel to where they are needed.
So, with all this combined capacity available, would it not make sense to put them to work in large projects across the African continent, using local workers to augment the military personnel and using local materials where necessary to build communities, dig irrigation channels, sink wells and generally set up the infrastructure needed to support these people?
Remember, these military personnel are paid whether they are out in the field or sitting at base. They might even find it rewarding work.

Of course, this would not be a profit-making enterprise. There would be no huge bank loans with huge interest rates given on the understanding that big western corporations are given the contracts. Tin-pot dictators would be forced to comply or spend the rest of their days in prison.

Maybe I'm just using logic here but it seems such a simple concept to adopt. Of course, the corporate boys who control our governments would soil their undercrackers if they even thought something like this were a possibility. No more exploitation of resources in the third world, having to pay taxes to those countries for mineral/oil rights etc.



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 07:05 AM
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Whats sad, is the US show, i've heard and i hope its wrong, that everyone who is on the US bill is being given a $1,000 goodie bag....please tell me thats not true...



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 07:13 AM
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YAHOO, ABC news, and the rest are reporting that Live 8 in Japan
is a *yawn* and that the Japanese are not interested.

As the sun rises around the world and the different venues come
on ... we will see how interested the world is in this.

I live just outside of Philly and I just found out two days ago about
this so-called 'major world event'. Yeah, right. Another *yawn*.



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 07:44 AM
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Philly are expecting a million and a half


The event is huge in the UK, must people ive seen today are wearing the white "make poverty history" bands...

This is going to be huge!



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by spliff4020
Hate to be the first nay-sayer, but here it goes. Big whoop. A concert. How is this going to change anything? Did Woodstock change anything? Did Live-Aid? No. Its a concert. Plain and simple.


Not plain and simple. Normally, you won't find a bigger cynic......I'm of the firm mind that there is a distinct difference between the upper class and lower class and everything happens to fill someone else's pockets. And you know what.....why shouldn't it.....seems if that were where I was at, I'd probably do the same.......

But the world, for all us conspiracy theorist mal-contents and all the reasons we have to be, ain't ALL screwed up. Even them powers that be. Who on this planet can really say that whenever they think of Africa, it only brings a big smile to their face? Not a damn one........in fact, Africa has become the embodiment of our discontent because of the abstract poverty.......abstract in its insistence on being far and above what this world should consider acceptable. No more turning a blind eye and trying to forget, no more pushing it out of our minds in favor of our own small happy thoughts because we feel too insignificant and don't know what to do about it. Find a reason to care, even if it's as inherently selfish as being sick of those horrible Sally Strutheresque infomercials........

And what do you think a project that is the magnitude of saving a whole population is going to incorporate? A few silent partners and a construction team? Do you think that one day, you're going to wake up and find Africa has picked it self up? Are you really that daft? Granted, this will happen with or without you, of that I can be certain....



Originally posted by spliff4020
Why should Africa get relief?


You're kidding me, right?
Just think about it..........

Believe me, you're never going to find a bigger cynic than myself; drives my family and friends up the proverbial wall.........but even I can stand back and take a look at the bigger picture.......and the bigger picture is that when people look back at the beginning of the twenty first century and the huge effort that went into solving a world problem, I won't be standing alone amidst my own uncomfortable silence looking for 'an angle'.....I'll be toasting a drink with a man who at one time didn't have any hope for him or his unwitting family.....

..... and if you're hell bent on a pessimistic attitude, start thinking that the only reason they want to de-povertize Africa is because they represent an untapped market of consumers and will add to the wealth of the wealthy..........but at least you'll be at a vantage to understand that they just want to eat and be happy like the rest of our screwed up planet.....here, have some context.


The Egyptians had the pyramids.......we have world wide integration.......see ya on the flip side.....

[edit on 2-7-2005 by MemoryShock]



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 09:07 AM
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All that comes to mind is the south park episode "Die Hippy Die". Where Cartman must tunnel into the unwashed hippies to play a death metal CD, thus harshing their “buzz” and ending the festival..

Want to help Africa? Get rid of the Socialist and Marxist governments. Throwing money at the problem or giving these governments a new line of credit (which, when you boil everything down, live 8 wants to do) is STUPID STUPID DUMB!

Of course, to do that we’d have to overthrow the corrupt government and install a democracy. Then we’d have to support the democracy for a few years while it got it’s act together and had 2-3 elections. We’d have to re-train their military so it would be professional and politically neutral. Then the process would be in place, supported by a somewhat professionally trained military, for peaceful transfers of power.

Oh wait…we’re trying to do exactly that in Iraq, and the same idiots that want the Africa problem to be solved are #ting all over our country for trying to fix the middle east. Even though we’ve seen it’s VERY effective at reforming the region (Lebanon, Egypt and Libya anyone?).

Instead these lazy bastards want to throw money and credit into the existing cesspool of tyranny without sacrificing anything real. The bottom line is that Live 8 will do much more harm than good. It will sustain horrible forms of government while providing a “feel good” band-aid so we don’t have to really fix the problem.

Now, the Live 8 people have said that they won’t forgive debt of “Irresponsible” governments. These are the same folks that managed the oil for food program. All the dictators have to do is pay off a few inspectors, run a couple of high-profile dog and pony shows and they can siphon billions into their private bank accounts.

PLEASE oppose crap like this with all your might. Africa is a money pit that half-measures will NOT fix. We need to grow some balls and support our governments enough so they can do the right thing, not necessarily the easy thing.



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by MrNice
Want to help Africa? Get rid of the Socialist and Marxist governments. Throwing money at the problem or giving these governments a new line of credit (which, when you boil everything down, live 8 wants to do) is STUPID STUPID DUMB!


its ashame you've failed to understand what live8 is about, its about putting pressure on the G8 hence live8, Concerts are going live in all G8 countries. live8 doesnt want your money, it wants debt to wiped out on African nations, corruption to be wiped at aswell and to increase aid and allow african nations to trade.



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
YAHOO, ABC news, and the rest are reporting that Live 8 in Japan
is a *yawn* and that the Japanese are not interested.

As the sun rises around the world and the different venues come
on ... we will see how interested the world is in this.

I live just outside of Philly and I just found out two days ago about
this so-called 'major world event'. Yeah, right. Another *yawn*.





Ah, you're disappointed it's not "War 8," that it's not a concert to raise money for the Iraq War.


Can anybody explain to me why acts of goodness such as Live 8 are looked down upon so much?



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
Ah, you're disappointed it's not "War 8," that it's not a concert to raise money for the Iraq War.


Can anybody explain to me why acts of goodness such as Live 8 are looked down upon so much?


Cause its putting pressure on Governments to do something about Africa, the main pressure is aimed at America. This is why it probably hasn't been covered as much in the states.



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 10:07 AM
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Let's be realistic here. The vast majority of people going to these concerts probably spend a millisecond a week thinking of the starving Africans. They are all so happy living their materialistic consumer lives and this is nothing more than a pop festival with a bit of touchy-feely feel-good stuff thrown in.

MrNice, it's no good ranting on about the dictators who subjugate their people in these African nations without also mentioning our own leaders who prop them up and sell them arms to make things easier for Western corporate interests to operate in those places. It is those corporate interests who must be reined in before our own leaders can be pressured into doing anything meaningful. As for the idea that we the people can influence change, I seriously think those days are long gone, if they ever really existed at all.



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 10:36 AM
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Its a nice thought, but if anyone thinks some songs is going to move the G8 in their mindset they have another thing coming. The protests and actions in Savannah, GA didnt affect the G8 when they were there; they were neatly tucked away on a military base. That nugget of cynical crud out of the way I still would have killed for a chance to see Pink Floyd play again, I can only hope they actually to a tour as suggested by an earlier poster.



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 10:50 AM
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for all the people here who have replied with "yawn, whatever"....

that is the exact attitude that prevents exhibitions like this making the desired effect. Unless you read the message and take action, of course it's not going to make the world of difference!

Ok, so some governments in large ignore their citizens, but when a large majority of their citizens demand change, they HAVE to react in the populations favour, otherwise they are voted out of power!

The world nowadays has been bred on complacency and ignorance. Too many people either ignore everything going on around them, or think "well I'm just one person, I can't make a difference...", but when you get say, 1million "I'm just one person" people ALL voicing the same opinion, then you will start to see change...it won't happen straight away, but it will happen.

The world population is being bred into ignorance, and complacency. Untill everyone takes the health of the WORLD population & planet as a personal responsibility, everything will continue it's downward spiral.

Wake up people, smell the roses and show the rest of the population exactly what you think! Don't let the fate of mankind & this planet be decided by a priviledged few. The global consciousness is what will keep this planet & all it's inhabitants in existence, not the ego's of a few politicians that think they know what's best.

Apologies if I sounded like I was raving on or if my typing was not perfect, I've had a lil to drink and am trying my best to make sense & inspire people to take things into their own hands. Enough blaming someone else. The problems we are facing today....greed, lust, murder, poverty, starvation etc are the results of ALL our mistakes.. time we took responsibility and corrected our wrongs.

Enough bickering, enough race/country/religion wars. We are all built the same, we've all screwed up. Let''s band together and make a better world.



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 11:06 AM
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Where is the love?, what a perfect song.

I wish Bush was there.



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 11:23 AM
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Hey Cobra, you're a genius...


That song isn't aimed at America..that song is aimed at everything violent, and hey, there ARE MORE VIOLENT things in this world than Bush and his "imperialistic-fascist-devilish-ways"



Anyways, who really cares. I wish the concerts the best of luck and other than that, I could care less. But I won't talk bad about them either. Best of luck to them in their endeavour.



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posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 11:29 AM
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I want everyone at ATS who has a conscience to do the tiny act of adding your name to the petition at www.live8live.com. The petition will be presented to the G8 at gleneagles this week, millions from around the world have already signed it. If you want to add your weight to put pressure to the leaders to change the world economic system then put your name down.




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