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Topic started on 30-6-2005 @ 01:31 PM by meshuggah1324
I've been emailing a guy named Sam Morgan who was a colonel and base comander at Woodbridge RAFB in Enland, a big wig at NORAD, and some other TS company. I asked him about the rumor of the TR-3B and it's propulsion, and the Aurora. Get ready, here is what he said:


"First you have to understand just what a plasma is. A plasma is made up of atoms that have lost all of their electrons and therefore they have a strong positive charge. You can move a plasma with magnetism or any negatively charged item. However, nothing about this would affect the G-forces on an air crew. G-forces on an aircrew are the result of centrifugal force.

Top Secret SCI means Top Secret, Special Compartmented Information. For special projects you can have special levels of security and one comes to mind. The move of the headquarters for Air Forces Europe from Lindsey Air Station to Ramstein Air Base was titled the "Back of the Envelope" Study. Everyone that was privy to that information had to sign a paper showing they had been briefed. Then, if there were any leaks, they would know who had the information.

The Aurora is an aircraft that is supposed to go very fast in the exoatmospheric area. All airplanes have two speed limits. The Q-limit is a measure of the strength of the front of the airplane and it is a low altitude speed limit. The F-105 had a Q-limit of 810 knots calibrated which is a little over 900 miles per hour. If you went much over this speed you could start failing the structure of the airframe. The other limit is a Mach limit and it is a speed limit to keep from over heating parts of the airframe and the engine intakes. The F-105 had a Mach 2.2 limit. By flying exoatmospheric you can avoid a Mach limit.

About rea 51, you would be disappointed if you knew everything there."






reply posted on 1-7-2005 @ 10:40 AM by ghost
Originally posted by Quest
Regardless if the info in the original post is right or wrong, i have some advise for you meshuggah1324.

Never bother sharing classified info on ATS. It gets lost in the stories and fictions all over the sight, and hald the people who respond will only claim you don't know what you are talking about...which is funny, because they don't know either.

ATS is entertainment, not a place to dump secrets.

People on ATS base thier view of conspiracy, government, military, and all sort of things on movies and stories.


Why do you think I quit doing my research online!

Well Said Quest! Allow me to point one thing out though: Most, but NOT all of us walk in the door with preconcived ideas! I KNOW I'm Not perfect and I will never clame to be. Like everyone else here, I have beliefs and oppinions, and a prespective of the world that has been shaped by my experiences. Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong! However, I try to be as open as I can, and keep my oppinions from clouding my judgement.

That said, Thank you for your effort to share with us! You raise some very intresting points that made me think about my own research into Black Project.

Based on what I know about aircraft structure and material strength. I get the feeling that the combination of Mach Limit, and Q Limit (which you mentioned), might limit the practical Max Speed of an Aircraft to around Mach 4. I know higher speed have been reported, but I not sure if they can be sustained without damaging the airframe and engines!

My research on Groom Lake despelled many of the myths and popular beliefs abouth the base. What we found was nothing more then a highly classifed research facility. Most of the wonderful stories, like the huge multistory undergound base are not even close to being true! Knowing how people react to the truth, I opted not to press for our data to be made public. The problem is People love myths and roumors! The Same is ture of the Research on the B-2. It Does NOT have Antigravity technolgy, and it Never did. The Airframe is electrically charged because RAM uses eletromagnetic interferencs to work.

Sorry to say it, but most people don't want the truth, they want someone to prove their fictional world is real, even if it isn't!

Good Luck!
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