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Originally posted by Bout Time
George W. Bush had a plan to get out of the VietNam War!!
North Vietnamese Col. Bui Tin, who served under Gen. Giap on the general staff of the North Vietnamese army, received South Vietnam's unconditional surrender on April 30, 1975.
In an interview with the Wall Street Journal after his retirement, Col. Tin explicitly credited leaders of the U.S. anti-war movement, saying they were "essential to our strategy."
"Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9AM to follow the growth of the antiwar movement," Col. Tin told the Journal.
Visits to Hanoi by Kerry anti-war allies Jane Fonda and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and others, he said, "gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses."
"We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war," the North Vietnamese military man explained.
[Osama] seems to believe that the American public, which he sees as soft and decadent, is unwilling to accept heavy casualties, and is therefore unwilling to wage a prolonged struggle. In offering evidence to support his beliefs, he has cited the American withdrawals from Lebanon in the early 1980s and Somalia in the early 1990s. He also asserts that Washington prevailed in its conflict with Iraq in 1991 because Saddam Hussein’s troops were unwilling to stand and fight long enough to inflict heavy casualties on the Americans. Bin Laden, by contrast, obviously has no shortage of warriors willing to sacrifice their lives.
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
At this point, I think all those people who agree with this action need to go down to a recruiter's office and offer up their pound of flesh, for the homeland. Veteran's, too. If you are too old to serve, then you should go sign your grandkid or child up. Immediately! The recruiters cannot meet their quotas most months.
[edit on 7/2/05 by EastCoastKid]
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
There is one thing for sure. No one who has responded to this ridiculous thread knows anything about the war in Vietnam or the war in Iraq. What is more, the originator of this thread has a wanton disregard for those who have stood up and actually put their lives on the line for something he enjoys and exercised everyday of his life.
Having served in Vietnam, I will tell you the similarities that I see between the two. Both are being fought in a 360 degree battlefield where there are no secure areas and where the enemy is ununiformed, unprincipled, and without regard for innocent human life, who will slaughter women and children by design, murder family members of those whom they have targeted and torture and murder innocents for the purpose of terrorizing the populace and whose greatest and most formidable allies are traitorous Americans who erode the morale of the troops and ridicule the cause among the young and impressionable.
Originally posted by intrepid
Both wars are unpopular, 1 good thing about this go around is that the people know it's not the troops, it's the administration. A HUGE leap forward imo.