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Iraqi Resistance Replies To Bush Speech: Sets Terms For U.S. Surrender

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posted on Jun, 30 2005 @ 10:49 AM
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The Answer to recent Bush's Speech about War in Iraq and how its "Worth It".



We Rafidan, represent part of the resistance factions, confirm only to reinforce a driven nail in this war criminal's head, that there is no such word "negotiation" in our political agenda. We have a phrase though, that calls to fight the invaders till their defeat, & war criminals are to be brought to justice, Iraq is to be compensated for the losses, & revenge must be taken from all those who supported the sanctions & the annihilation of the Iraqi people & their army.


Before Two Years, Bush:

- Declares war on us, & the congress rejoices, the congress rises and falls seven times to express their support to this tyrant.

- He acquired media statistics that declare 85% support from his people who are waiting for Iraq to be annihilated from this planet. (Today, we know where he got his figures!)

- This tyrant issued many laws which reduce freedom & all were silent!

- He insults the U.N. & governments till they recited his prayers and submitted to his will in support of his so called war on terror.

- He cried for the innocent lives taken on 9/11, everyone believed him, despite all the evidence that the stunt was prepared by his CIA and the Zionists and patsies.


Where is Bush Today?

- The congress shouts, where are the WMDs? Why did we lose 2000 of our soldiers and 12,000 injured as admitted by the pentagon, where were 200 billion Dollars spent, which companies made the profits? Then the congress demands the resignation of Rumsfield!

- His new figures claim 60% of his people urge for a quick withdrawal from our land.

- Proceedings for a popular war tribunal have already begun in Istanbul and in European Cities!

- His Generals need 10 to 12 years and 150 thousand soldiers on continued Duty & over one trillion Dollars every five years & want to leave the whole world to deal with the Iraqi Resistance!

- His alliances crumble and his partners in crime flee gradually.

- Blair is defeated in Parliament and will be relieved from his party within a year!

- Europe, The Russians, the Chinese are watching the raging tired and bleeding American bull, and are rejoicing the strikes of the resistance in heart. Before the final blow!

- His soldiers flee the fields to live as refugees, to form groups of influence, along with pilots who call for the refusal of active duty in protest to the lies told.

- Bush today begs for international assistance and talks are held worldwide and round the clock to find what one can, of contributors who may fund the puppet governments of Ayad Allawi and Jafari, no one wants to invest!


Finally, Do you really want to Negotiate? We Accept, But under our Conditions!

- All enemy troops are to withdraw to the occupied city of Kuwait.
- Then we sit under the exact same tent, that Schwarzkopf erected at Safwan, only this time it is to be erected in Matlaa the generally known and accepted borders of Iraq, and with the authorization of our new government, which will be declared soon at the correct timing from our Baghdad, we will negotiate your surrender !

We have the Oath of God!!!

Rafidan
The Political Party
The Mujahideen Central Command
Baghdad the 20th of Jamadi first 1426 H
The 27th of June 2005 M


Source:
Information Clearing House

And Another Communique from the Iraqi Resistance.

Do you really think that the Iraqi Insurgency / Resistance is a bunch of Crazed and Non-Organized Terrorists, which are just waiting to blow themselves up?

Apparently they have Comittee, a Central Command and those are Signs of a Highly Organized Military Unit.

Still think that the Insurgency is in the Last Dying Breaths?

If you do, why are there still 150.000 US Troops in Iraq?




posted on Jun, 30 2005 @ 11:18 AM
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One of Bush's horses on the ranch read this. I think his name is Mr. Ed.
Snap shot of the laughing horse was posted on the internet and is surely to be forwarded to Rafidan, as well.



Btw, there are 138,000, not 150,000, Souljah.




seekerof

[edit on 30-6-2005 by Seekerof]



posted on Jun, 30 2005 @ 05:03 PM
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Thats Your Best Shot Against this Story?

A Picture of a Laughing Horse and an Excessive-Quotation Warning?

Here's a Counter - I bet that That Horse was Laughing at THIS Picture:





And I am sorry for the Mistake in Numbers of US Troops.

My Bad.

[edit on 30/6/05 by Souljah]



posted on Jun, 30 2005 @ 05:17 PM
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Do you really think that the Iraqi Insurgency / Resistance is a bunch of Crazed and Non-Organized Terrorists, which are just waiting to blow themselves up?

Well, blowing up a gas pipeline like they did yesterday definitely shows signs of an unstable mind. It's like pissing in your own nest.



posted on Jun, 30 2005 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by jsobecky
Well, blowing up a gas pipeline like they did yesterday definitely shows signs of an unstable mind. It's like pissing in your own nest.

"Pissing in Your Own Nest"?

As long as there is USA Presence in Iraq, these Pipelines will be a Target to any Insurget attacks.

Do you think they get the Money from the Oil being Pumped there?



posted on Jun, 30 2005 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by Souljah
The congress shouts, where are the WMDs? Why did we lose 2000 of our soldiers and 12,000 injured as admitted by the pentagon, where were 200 billion Dollars spent, which companies made the profits? Then the congress demands the resignation of Rumsfield!

- His new figures claim 60% of his people urge for a quick withdrawal from our land.

This is seriously bad news, because its an example of the Resistance, out there killing american soldiers and iraqi civilians, citing the actions of the anti-war / pro-peace movement, to justify their actions and call for more support, etc etc.

IOW, its precisely what many 'arch conservatives' are allways ravening about, actually confirmed. Speak out against the war, and you kill american soldiers. Can't support the troops, without supporting the war.



posted on Jun, 30 2005 @ 05:43 PM
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the Iraqis demand compensation for the destruction of mosques by both sides. they demand that all Arab foreigners leave as well as the coalition forces. the insurgents are to be paid for helping destroyed Iraq's own oil industry and targeting electric facilities, they will be paid for killing Iraqi police and army as well as innocent civilians.



posted on Jun, 30 2005 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
This is seriously bad news, because its an example of the Resistance, out there killing american soldiers and iraqi civilians, citing the actions of the anti-war / pro-peace movement, to justify their actions and call for more support, etc.

This War in Iraq is Illegal to Start with.

So many Frauds and Corruptions regarding this War have been Discovered by now, who knows how many will Pour out in the near Future.

Well I guess these Insurgents are what the US Goverment needs Most - to assure the Endless Conflcit Scenario, and with that Trillions and Trillions of Dollars for Military Spending.



posted on Jun, 30 2005 @ 05:54 PM
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Souljah,

The terrorists are really playing you. They know that releasing statements like that will get liberals to put pressure on President Bush to pull out of Iraq. They need Bush to pull out because they know that they cannot win.

You are playing right into thier hands, can't you see it???


Also, Souljah do you support the Iraq insurgents?



posted on Jun, 30 2005 @ 06:07 PM
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As my (what could be) final posts on this website, I have to say, this isn't good news. But, do the insurgents really think that the U.S. is going to surrender? On whose terms? Who said we need to surrender?

138,000 against an estimated 10,000?

Hmm..doesn't sound like we need to surrender, if you ask me.

I'm sure I won't surrender while I'm over there, you can bet on that.

-wD



posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by Boatphone
The terrorists are really playing you. They know that releasing statements like that will get liberals to put pressure on President Bush to pull out of Iraq. They need Bush to pull out because they know that they cannot win.

And the "terrorists" sitting in the Oval Office are playing YOU, my Friend.

You seem not to understand the meaning of US Troops in Iraq.

This Occupation wont end so fast - and Bu$h administration knows that.

As long as the Military is Present in Iraq, Business is Good.

Why Leave?



posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 06:30 AM
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Originally posted by WeBDeviL
138,000 against an estimated 10,000?

Some Reports say that the Iraqi Insurgents count to as many as 200.000.



BAGHDAD, Jan 3 (AFP) - Iraq's insurgency counts more than 200,000 active fighters and sympathisers, the country's national intelligence chief told AFP, in the bleakest assessment to date of the armed revolt waged by Sunni Muslims.

www.turkishpress.com...

I really dont think estimated 10.000 is the Real Number.

You think that 140.000 US Troops would be stationed just to battle those poor 10.000 rebels?

I hardly think so...



posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by Souljah
od.

Why Leave?


yeah the foreign Jihadists wants to make its new home, just like it did in Afghanistan, its a wonder why the Afghans were beating up all those Arabs. not to mention shooting them to death.



posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 08:57 AM
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This War in Iraq is Illegal to Start with.


Agreed.



So many Frauds and Corruptions regarding this War have been Discovered by now, who knows how many will Pour out in the near Future.


No doubt.



Well I guess these Insurgents are what the US Goverment needs Most - to assure the Endless Conflcit Scenario, and with that Trillions and Trillions of Dollars for Military Spending.


The problem is, the insurgents are fighting a self-defeating cause. If they want the US troops out, there is a quicker and more expedient way of doing this. (and far less bloody). If they really had a brain among them, they'd simply STOP. Yes, that's right, STOP. Allow Iraq to stabilize, recover their economy, and then you'll see how fast the US leaves only a token force in the region. THEN, work towards putting your guys in office through elections, and actually gain a voice in the Iraqi affairs. Blowing up pipelines, kidnapping old women and shooting them in the head, or sawing off the heads of Americans, is ONLY going to ensure that the US bears down harder, and stays longer.

This would be the smarter way to go, but instead they are hoping to try and bleed the American interest out of there, just as the Taliban did to the Russians. There is a LOT more to bleed here, so a foolish tactic.

Unlike Ho Chi Min, the insurgents have no plan to offer, so the Nam route won't fly either. The insurgents have the power to make the US leave, but they refuse to exercise it.


[edit on 1-7-2005 by Gazrok]



posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
The problem is, the insurgents are fighting a self-defeating cause. If they want the US troops out, there is a quicker and more expedient way of doing this. (and far less bloody). If they really had a brain among them, they'd simply STOP. Yes, that's right, STOP. Allow Iraq to stabilize, recover their economy, and then you'll see how fast the US leaves only a token force in the region.

My Dear Friend, its a little Too late for That.

You quickly seem to Forget that the sides involved in this Conflict dont Like each other Very Much. The Struggle between Shia and Sunni Muslims goes way back to the 7th Century AD, and current US Goverment is just opening up old wounds and putting salt on them. When talking about Iraqi People, you mean the Majority of the Shia Muslim Population, that is the Backbone of the Iraqi Police Forces backed up by the US Forces. The Sunni's are the Insurgents, backed up by Foreign Fighters. And this is a Clear sign of a Civil War, either you admit that or not. And for the Insurgents all Forces that Collaborate with the Occupation Army are Traitors, Period. Nothing wont change that, ever. USA have created another "Isreali State" in the Middle East, where Islamic Fundamentalism is fighting the Western Corporate Colonialism. Only here the struggle is among the Muslim population - but as I sad before, that is an Old Wound, that has never Healed, and 140.000 US Troops wont make any difference; well they sure made the difference, but for Worse!

Its not that Easy, Sir - if it would be, this Conflict would be Long Time Over.

But its not, and I dont see the End coming soon.

As Mister Churchill said once before:

"This is not the End. This is not the Beginning of the End. But it is the End of the Beginning."



This would be the smarter way to go, but instead they are hoping to try and bleed the American interest out of there, just as the Taliban did to the Russians.

The Russian-Afganistan War should be an Example, what happens when a Higly Modernized Army comes to the countries of Middle East and tries to Occupy them. It simply does not work that way. Resistance will always be present and will just get stronger. Same thing is happening in Iraq, only ten times Worse. How did the Russian-Afganistan War End? The Russkies had to pull out...

Thats probably the Only Way to End this kind of Conflict.

Look at Isreal-Palestinian Conflict? Lasting for almost Five Decades.

Iraq War was supposed to be over 2 years ago - whats going on? More and More attack every day. No sign of the End.

But Instead of putting out the Fires, president Bu$h pours more Oil on it, by threatning Syria and Iran.

Now that WILL Destablize, not only Iraq, but the ENTIRE Middle Eastern Area.

You think Democratization will bring Peace to these Countries - Peace like the people of Iraq are "Enjoying"?



posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 10:00 AM
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have they explained why they bombed the funeral of a man they assassinated ? was that allahs will ?

here's a nice trick they use. kill a man. put bombs on his body. put his clothes back on. lay him in a street. call his family and tell them where the body is. when they get there, blow them all up.


we can't negotiate with animals, it will just encourage them



posted on Jul, 1 2005 @ 11:52 AM
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Soulja you really have to stop calling the insurgents the “Iraqi resistance” because it could not be farther from the truth. Its like 10% Sunni and Saddam supporters and 90% foreigners from Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Syria.
The overwhelming majority of Iraqis want the insurgents to stop their attack and leave their country, they just want to stabilize their courtry so that they can take care of themselves and then the US can leave, we all want that and that is what the Us is working toward.

[edit on 1-7-2005 by WestPoint23]



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 10:34 PM
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You know it's so funny how people are saying, hmm well it's 10,000 or 20,000 or wateva against 138, 000 trained, expensive and technological troops so America has got this one in the bag. LOL this is so ridiculous it's funny.

The 138 000 troops will never win this war ever. This war is an impossible war to win. These insurgents are attacking stronger, harder and faster with each day, this is happening while the USA is losing more men, billions of dollars and national pride. The soldiers in Iraq are becoming angry, wounded soldiers from Iraq are saying their fellow soldiers are pissed off.



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 11:19 PM
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I don't know, this kind of has that pre-election Bin Laden video vibe to it.

The same way 'Bin Laden' aligned himself with the 'left' to enrage and cloud the 'right' even more is kind of what's happening here. It reads like someone has been paying a lot of attention to what the anti-war westerners are saying. Doesn't read like a group out of Iraq who are busy fighting an invading Army.

There's not an easier way to have the right side of politics get even more re-enforced and buried in their opinions than to have their enemy speak the opposite of what the right believe - no matter what truth is involved. The CIA could be laying out the entire truth but what's said is not important, it's who says it.

Once you have a 'terrorist' say something, truthful or not, it becomes the anti-American route and instantly the reverse of that logic is insighted in the war supporters. It's a very powerful form of propaganda and if we re-read the World Wide Attack Matrix by the CIA, we know that propaganda is one of their main tatics plus the government even admitted to saying they'd use propaganda to get support.

If Bin Laden asked for world peace, the neo-cons would demand that is proof they need more bombs. If Bin Laden asked for bombs, the neo-cons would start up the world peace spiel.



posted on Jul, 2 2005 @ 11:32 PM
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Soulja:

Be advised,

You are using a copyrighted image for your Avatar, this image is owned in full by George Lucas, Inc. I am sure they will request that you immediately stop using copyrighted images and direct quotations that they own.

As far as the Iraqui war and the Muslim Fundamentalist Revolutionaries are concerned. If you start up in the U.S.A., you will not have to worry about the ARMY, NAVY, Air Force, Marines or National Guard... in my neighborhood the Citizens will kill you before we call the police.



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